1.01 for Lamar jackson

[Dlo21]

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I have a weakness at qb. Do I take Caleb, add a lil something to get Lamar. Add a bit more to try and get Josh Allen.
What should I do with the pick?

[Tvols]

I take Caleb or try for Allen.

[Mtt33]

What do they adds cost? What are starting positions?

[Black Adam]

Either take CW or trade back.

[TheTroll]

I take Caleb or try for Allen.

For sure! File this under the “don’t over think it” category

[tstafford]

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I have a weakness at qb. Do I take Caleb, add a lil something to get Lamar. Add a bit more to try and get Josh Allen.
What should I do with the pick?

Depends on the "lil something". Just conceptually sure. There's less risk in either Lamar or Allen than CW.

But you're in the driver's seat on this and should take advantage of that. Your fall back position of taking CW is a solid option. I'd figure out what I was willing to add to CW for either player and make that offer along with a clear message that it's "best and final" because I'm taking CW happily if no deal.

Not that you asked, but I'd hold off on trying to make this move until closer to draft time. I don't think CW has peaked in rookie value yet. My expectation is that he will be very close to a first round start-up pick this summer. That's still going to require a solid add to get to either of those QBs because they are top-4 start up picks (maybe top-3). But I think the add will be the smallest during rookie drafts.

[murphysxm]

If I have a weakness at QB in a SF and I am sitting at 1.01, I need blown away to not take CW. This seems like a big time overthink situation.

[Anteaters]

If I have a weakness at QB in a SF and I am sitting at 1.01, I need blown away to not take CW. This seems like a big time overthink situation.

I know I might be suffering short term memory loss, but when was the last time the consensus dynasty rookie QB 1.01 was as good as Lamar is today? Or actually became as productive as Lamar should be for the next 4-5 years?

I'm not saying anyone should make the trade 1:1. I just wonder if we all suffer a bit of rookie fever, or maybe Lamar devaluation? For instance, if this was Burrow:1.01, would people say make the deal? Or is Caleb being rated above every QB except the big 3?

I need to run and check CW's valuation in the QB hierarchy?

EDIT: Just checked and it looks like CW is around QB8-QB10. Easily below Lamar on most dynasty ranking sites. hmmmm

[tstafford]

If I have a weakness at QB in a SF and I am sitting at 1.01, I need blown away to not take CW. This seems like a big time overthink situation.

I know I might be suffering short term memory loss, but when was the last time the consensus dynasty rookie QB 1.01 was as good as Lamar is today? Or actually became as productive as Lamar should be for the next 4-5 years?

I'm not saying anyone should make the trade 1:1. I just wonder if we all suffer a bit of rookie fever, or maybe Lamar devaluation? For instance, if this was Burrow:1.01, would people say make the deal? Or is Caleb being rated above every QB except the big 3?

I need to run and check CW's valuation in the QB hierarchy?

EDIT: Just checked and it looks like CW is around QB8-QB10. Easily below Lamar on most dynasty ranking sites. hmmmm

I can't see why anyone would think CW is worth more than Lamar.

[TheTroll]

If I have a weakness at QB in a SF and I am sitting at 1.01, I need blown away to not take CW. This seems like a big time overthink situation.

I know I might be suffering short term memory loss, but when was the last time the consensus dynasty rookie QB 1.01 was as good as Lamar is today? Or actually became as productive as Lamar should be for the next 4-5 years?

I'm not saying anyone should make the trade 1:1. I just wonder if we all suffer a bit of rookie fever, or maybe Lamar devaluation? For instance, if this was Burrow:1.01, would people say make the deal? Or is Caleb being rated above every QB except the big 3?

I need to run and check CW's valuation in the QB hierarchy?

EDIT: Just checked and it looks like CW is around QB8-QB10. Easily below Lamar on most dynasty ranking sites. hmmmm

I can't see why anyone would think CW is worth more than Lamar.

yep no way

[Anteaters]

Ok, I thought it was just me.

I'd be thrilled to add a little something to 1.01 to lock down Lamar in SF. That looks like highway robbery to me.

[Tvols]

Ok, I thought it was just me.

I'd be thrilled to add a little something to 1.01 to lock down Lamar in SF. That looks like highway robbery to me.

I rather have Allen or Burrow (shorter extent Williams )over Lamar but that is personal preference , Im just not a Lamar fan and that is ok. He was suppose be the best passing qb ever in this new offense(sarcasm) I dont see it, yes he is great for FF but his legs wont hold out for ever and I dont see him improving as a passer where he can carry an offense off his Arm as he ages but to each our own. Value sure is on the Lamar side for now.

[Anteaters]

Ok, I thought it was just me.

I'd be thrilled to add a little something to 1.01 to lock down Lamar in SF. That looks like highway robbery to me.

I rather have Allen or Burrow (shorter extent Williams )over Lamar but that is personal preference , Im just not a Lamar fan and that is ok. He was suppose be the best passing qb ever in this new offense(sarcasm) I dont see it, yes he is great for FF but his legs wont hold out for ever and I dont see him improving as a passer where he can carry an offense off his Arm as he ages but to each our own. Value sure is on the Lamar side for now.

I think a lot of the difference in opinion is because of the name being Lamar, not the veteran being dynasty QB5. I think you (and others) would value dynasty QB5 over CW, as long as that dynasty QB5 is not Lamar. Personal preference and all that.

Because deep down, we all agree there is significant risk (at least 50%?) that any rookie first round pick is going to be a bust. Even when a rookie QB isn't a bust, he might end up being TLaw level, which is lower value than LJackson level. So purely speaking of Dynasty QB5 versus CW, the answer is almost always take the Dynasty QB5.

I'm not trying to debate that anybody should ignore their personal preference against Lamar. If you don't think he's that guy, go with your gut. But for those who are not anti-Lamar, I think this is a clear choice in favor of Lamar unless someone is ALL IN on Caleb.

[Tvols]

Ok, I thought it was just me.

I'd be thrilled to add a little something to 1.01 to lock down Lamar in SF. That looks like highway robbery to me.

I rather have Allen or Burrow (shorter extent Williams )over Lamar but that is personal preference , Im just not a Lamar fan and that is ok. He was suppose be the best passing qb ever in this new offense(sarcasm) I dont see it, yes he is great for FF but his legs wont hold out for ever and I dont see him improving as a passer where he can carry an offense off his Arm as he ages but to each our own. Value sure is on the Lamar side for now.

I think a lot of the difference in opinion is because of the name being Lamar, not the veteran being dynasty QB5. I think you (and others) would value dynasty QB5 over CW, as long as that dynasty QB5 is not Lamar. Personal preference and all that.

Because deep down, we all agree there is significant risk (at least 50%?) that any rookie first round pick is going to be a bust. Even when a rookie QB isn't a bust, he might end up being TLaw level, which is lower value than LJackson level. So purely speaking of Dynasty QB5 versus CW, the answer is almost always take the Dynasty QB5.

I'm not trying to debate that anybody should ignore their personal preference against Lamar. If you don't think he's that guy, go with your gut. But for those who are not anti-Lamar, I think this is a clear choice in favor of Lamar unless someone is ALL IN on Caleb.

Very valid point anteater