G Wilson + 1.08 or JSN + 1.04

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G Wilson + 1.08 or JSN + 1.04

Postby Gazzerk » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:45 am

Making a new post to get clear response to this exact deal. The other owner is pressuring and seems to be in a rush to make a deal. It’s a 1QB and the value seems to be there but I want to make sure I’m not missing something here. I love JSN and am blinded by it a bit. Is this a smash accept to get Wilson?

Sorry edited as I mixed up the picks in a rush.
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Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes
RB - Bijan, Swift, Najee, Dobbins, Gibson, Chase Brown, Abanikanda, Sean Tucker, Zach Evans
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, JSN, J. Jeudy, Jameson Williams, Hutchinson
TE - Andrews, T. McBride, Schoonmaker
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2024 2 1sts, 2 3rds
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Re: G Wilson + 1.04 or JSN + 1.08

Postby Jrblaha » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:47 am

G Wilson > JSN
1.04 > 1.08

I don’t understand why someone would do this. But if it’s on the table, hit accept now imo
12 team. PPR. QB pass td = 6
Starters: QB(1) FLEX (RB/WR/TE)(2) RB(2) WR(3) TE(1)

QB: AR, DJones
RB: Gibby, Charb, KMiller, Akers
WR: Chase, Lamb, G Wilson, Tank Dell, Burks, Mimsy, Tutu, W Robinson, Tucker, Wicks, RBell
TE: DNjoku, Hunter Henry

Draft Picks: 2024: 1.2, 1.5, 1.11. 2025: 1st Round (2) 2nd Round (1), 2026: 1st Round (1) 2nd Round (2)

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Re: G Wilson + 1.04 or JSN + 1.08

Postby Mtt33 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:50 am

I don’t get it wilson >> jsn. Take out the 1.04 and this is interesting but I’d take Wilson side…

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Re: G Wilson + 1.04 or JSN + 1.08

Postby TheTroll » Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:57 am

Jrblaha wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 10:47 am G Wilson > JSN
1.04 > 1.08

I don’t understand why someone would do this. But if it’s on the table, hit accept now imo
this for sure.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: G Wilson + 1.08 or JSN + 1.04

Postby moishetreats » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:00 am

Just like in the other post, I'm grabbing this. You're not missing anything -- just go accept!!
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

IR: --
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Re: G Wilson + 1.08 or JSN + 1.04

Postby Gazzerk » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:59 am

moishetreats wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:00 am Just like in the other post, I'm grabbing this. You're not missing anything -- just go accept!!
Ahh he got cold feet then asked for Najee on top. He then said he doesn’t know if he wants to make a deal at all anymore until after that draft. Out of curiosity, does adding Najee hold you up at all?
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes
RB - Bijan, Swift, Najee, Dobbins, Gibson, Chase Brown, Abanikanda, Sean Tucker, Zach Evans
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, JSN, J. Jeudy, Jameson Williams, Hutchinson
TE - Andrews, T. McBride, Schoonmaker
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs

Picks:
2024 2 1sts, 2 3rds
2025 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd

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Re: G Wilson + 1.08 or JSN + 1.04

Postby Jrblaha » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:15 pm

Gazzerk wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:59 am
moishetreats wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:00 am Just like in the other post, I'm grabbing this. You're not missing anything -- just go accept!!
Ahh he got cold feet then asked for Najee on top. He then said he doesn’t know if he wants to make a deal at all anymore until after that draft. Out of curiosity, does adding Najee hold you up at all?
So it’s now JSN + 1.04 + Najee for GWilson and 1.08? If so, tell him to figure out what he actually wants and then let you know and you can counter from there.

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Re: G Wilson + 1.08 or JSN + 1.04

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:54 pm

I hate people who suggest an offer then start upping it.

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Re: G Wilson + 1.08 or JSN + 1.04

Postby Anteaters » Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:10 pm

Jrblaha wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:15 pm
Gazzerk wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:59 am
moishetreats wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:00 am Just like in the other post, I'm grabbing this. You're not missing anything -- just go accept!!
Ahh he got cold feet then asked for Najee on top. He then said he doesn’t know if he wants to make a deal at all anymore until after that draft. Out of curiosity, does adding Najee hold you up at all?
So it’s now JSN + 1.04 + Najee for GWilson and 1.08? If so, tell him to figure out what he actually wants and then let you know and you can counter from there.
Better yet, send him an offer of your JSN+1.04 for his GWilson+1.08.

Talking back and forth gives him the opportunity to reconsider, change his mind, and ask for more. Talking back and forth about hypotheticals is not always the best way to conduct negotiations. Sometimes, but not always.

Put a real offer through your league's software and see what he does. Let him see this is more than talk and is an actual chance to accept a real offer. Be sure to put a 24 or 48 hour deadline on it.

And if he rejects the offer and tries to start up the verbal/texting back-and-forth again, ask him to send the new offer as a real offer over league software. Doing that will prevent him from putting out fake offers, reneging on them after you give a soft agree, and upping the ante.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
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QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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Re: G Wilson + 1.08 or JSN + 1.04

Postby Mtt33 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:20 pm

Anteaters wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:10 pm
Jrblaha wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:15 pm
Gazzerk wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:59 am

Ahh he got cold feet then asked for Najee on top. He then said he doesn’t know if he wants to make a deal at all anymore until after that draft. Out of curiosity, does adding Najee hold you up at all?
So it’s now JSN + 1.04 + Najee for GWilson and 1.08? If so, tell him to figure out what he actually wants and then let you know and you can counter from there.
Better yet, send him an offer of your JSN+1.04 for his GWilson+1.08.

Talking back and forth gives him the opportunity to reconsider, change his mind, and ask for more. Talking back and forth about hypotheticals is not always the best way to conduct negotiations. Sometimes, but not always.

Put a real offer through your league's software and see what he does. Let him see this is more than talk and is an actual chance to accept a real offer. Be sure to put a 24 or 48 hour deadline on it.

And if he rejects the offer and tries to start up the verbal/texting back-and-forth again, ask him to send the new offer as a real offer over league software. Doing that will prevent him from putting out fake offers, reneging on them after you give a soft agree, and upping the ante.
Ya I don’t have time for that nonsense anymore, discussion gets your nowhere, official offers on the site only for me.

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Re: G Wilson + 1.08 or JSN + 1.04

Postby dynastyfootballer » Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:10 pm

i prefer wilson + 1.08
All leagues: 12 Team Superflex PPR: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 FLEX, 1 SF

Team 1:

QB: Mahomes, Dak, Tua, Jimmy G.
RB: Bijan, JT, Hall, Mostert, Dobbins, McKinnon
WR: AJB, Diggs, Godwin, Reed, K. Allen, M. Mims, Osborn
TE: Hockenson, Kincaid

2024 picks: 1.08, 3.01, 3.03, 3.06, 3.10, 3.11
2025 picks: 1st, 1st, 2nd

Team 2:

QB: Mahomes, Lamar, Dobbs, DTR
RB: Bijan, Hall, R. White, Herbert, Dowdle
WR:Olave, DK, Reed, Theilen, Wicks, E. Moore, Bateman,, Reynolds
TE: Pitts, Everett

2024 picks: 3rd

Team 3:

QB: Stroud, Dak, Tlaw, Levis
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, ETN, Pollard, Javonte, Chandler
WR:Lamb, ARSB, Aiyuk, Adams, JSN, Dotson, Watson, E. Moore
TE: Laporta, Pitts, Ferguson, Chig

2024 picks: 1.10, 2.06, 2.09, 3.01, 4.11, 4.12

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Re: G Wilson + 1.08 or JSN + 1.04

Postby Gazzerk » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:15 pm

Anteaters wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:10 pm
Jrblaha wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:15 pm
Gazzerk wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:59 am

Ahh he got cold feet then asked for Najee on top. He then said he doesn’t know if he wants to make a deal at all anymore until after that draft. Out of curiosity, does adding Najee hold you up at all?
So it’s now JSN + 1.04 + Najee for GWilson and 1.08? If so, tell him to figure out what he actually wants and then let you know and you can counter from there.
Better yet, send him an offer of your JSN+1.04 for his GWilson+1.08.

Talking back and forth gives him the opportunity to reconsider, change his mind, and ask for more. Talking back and forth about hypotheticals is not always the best way to conduct negotiations. Sometimes, but not always.

Put a real offer through your league's software and see what he does. Let him see this is more than talk and is an actual chance to accept a real offer. Be sure to put a 24 or 48 hour deadline on it.

And if he rejects the offer and tries to start up the verbal/texting back-and-forth again, ask him to send the new offer as a real offer over league software. Doing that will prevent him from putting out fake offers, reneging on them after you give a soft agree, and upping the ante.
Yeah I agree. I did do that. I sent the JSN + 1.04 for Wilson + 1.08 after we had talked about it earlier in the day. He said he was getting other offers but like my option best. I sent the offer over then he said he wanted a little something more on top and would prefer Najee. Then he started to back out all together saying that he thinks he needs to wait until the NFL draft before making a deal. Strange. Maybe he realized he wasn’t sure of the 1.04 value and what kind of players may be available there after landing spots. I’ll probably just put a lid on trade talks until the NFL draft at this point.
Team:14 Team Dynasty 1/2 PPR Unlimited Keepers 2IR
Starting Reqs: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1WRT 1K 1Def
QB - Mahomes
RB - Bijan, Swift, Najee, Dobbins, Gibson, Chase Brown, Abanikanda, Sean Tucker, Zach Evans
WR - Chase, Waddle, A. Cooper, JSN, J. Jeudy, Jameson Williams, Hutchinson
TE - Andrews, T. McBride, Schoonmaker
K- Butker
Def- Chiefs

Picks:
2024 2 1sts, 2 3rds
2025 2 3rds
2026 1st, 3rd

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Re: G Wilson + 1.08 or JSN + 1.04

Postby CGW » Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:55 pm

The good news is that hype of the 1.04 should only increase as you get closer to your draft. I'd try again as you get closer just make sure he knows to check with you before selling him for less elsewhere in the meantime.

Id gladly pay JSN+1.04 for Wilson. Wilson has shown talent, upside, volume, and consistency despite his bottom of the league QB play. Currently, he has back to back 1,000+ yard seasons. He's worth acquiring for this kind of price.


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