Is Fields a buy low?

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Is Fields a buy low?

Postby Last Place » Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:32 pm

I'm seriously considering trying to make a move for Fields. I feel like, although not great, his play wasn't as bad as his stats show. I really think he has been hampered by his teams poor play and nearly any location would be better than where he is now (Atlanta would be amazing). What's everyone think?
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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby Mtt33 » Tue Feb 27, 2024 4:50 pm

Guess it depends what that but costs. Seen him “ranked” anywhere from mid 2nd to late 3rd on startup rankings so I’d guess is value varies quite a bit

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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby MacDaddy123 » Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:44 pm

I am not interested in buying Fields at his current value. Yes, his value is lower than it was a year ago, but his value could be much lower 12 months from now.
Fields is one of those players that are better in fantasy than in real life, and I don't see Fields getting a starting QB contract after his rookie contract expires.
I doubt anyone picks up his 5th year option at $25.7 mil for 2025, so 2024 could be his last season as a starting QB in the NFL before he joins the ranks of Mariota, Winston, Wentz, Trubisky, etc., as 1st round QB picks who were only really useful while on their rookie contract.

Fields is just not a good enough passer to get a 2nd contract as a starting QB.
Sure, his rushing is great for fantasy, but in real life, a QB has to be able to throw the ball better than Fields does.

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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby tstafford » Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:44 am

Depends on the cost. Fields is still be drafted pretty high in SF start-ups. Guessing I'm out at cost. But you don't know until you try.

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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby Anteaters » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:14 am

Last Place wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:32 pmWhat's everyone think?
If you can buy him at a truly low price, I would consider it. If this is a case where the consensus value is very high and the "low" price is still high, then I am wayyyyyyyyyy out on Fields.
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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby The.Big.Spank » Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:37 am

MacDaddy123 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:44 pm I am not interested in buying Fields at his current value. Yes, his value is lower than it was a year ago, but his value could be much lower 12 months from now.
Fields is one of those players that are better in fantasy than in real life, and I don't see Fields getting a starting QB contract after his rookie contract expires.
I doubt anyone picks up his 5th year option at $25.7 mil for 2025, so 2024 could be his last season as a starting QB in the NFL before he joins the ranks of Mariota, Winston, Wentz, Trubisky, etc., as 1st round QB picks who were only really useful while on their rookie contract.

Fields is just not a good enough passer to get a 2nd contract as a starting QB.
Sure, his rushing is great for fantasy, but in real life, a QB has to be able to throw the ball better than Fields does.
You very well might be right, but it should also be factored in that his receiving corps, until DJ Moore arrived rivaled Carolina and Tennessee when it came to suckyness and the same with his offensive line.
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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby CGW » Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:43 am

Sure, if the price is right. I've seen Fields move at pretty high prices lately though, and I wouldn't want to be paying top dollar for him.

He will absolutely be an NFL starter in 2024. I also don't agree that his 5th year option will be cost prohibitive in the QB world. $25/mil for a chance at a young starter is relatively cheap in today's contract terms. Sure, you'd rather have a cost controlled rookie, but for the teams who aren't in the top half of the first round that just isn't an option.

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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby tstafford » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:17 am

CGW wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:43 am Sure, if the price is right. I've seen Fields move at pretty high prices lately though, and I wouldn't want to be paying top dollar for him.

He will absolutely be an NFL starter in 2024. I also don't agree that his 5th year option will be cost prohibitive in the QB world. $25/mil for a chance at a young starter is relatively cheap in today's contract terms. Sure, you'd rather have a cost controlled rookie, but for the teams who aren't in the top half of the first round that just isn't an option.
Agreed. And the prices reflect that FF managers believe he will be an NFL starter for several more years. Otherwise he'd be in the Mayfield, Stafford, Geno range - which he isn't.

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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:53 am

he is a buy low if you are of the belief hes a top 12 asset. otherwise no he is either priced appropriately or way too high.
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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby collbey » Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:09 am

I view him as a buy if the price is reasonable.

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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby Payton34 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:43 am

Last Place wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:32 pm I'm seriously considering trying to make a move for Fields. I feel like, although not great, his play wasn't as bad as his stats show. I really think he has been hampered by his teams poor play and nearly any location would be better than where he is now (Atlanta would be amazing). What's everyone think?
Fields will be a starter somewhere. Don't know your league or who the current Fields owner might be, but I'd say that he just MIGHT be buying into the mixed NFL assessment of Fields. Bottom line is that Fields is a very good FANTASY QB as long as he is starting... On that front you have to figure.

1) If the Bears keep him, they are likely committing to him as a starter for at least 2 years.

2) If a team trades for him, they will probably try to lock him up for beyond the 2 years.
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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby Mtt33 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:38 am

Payton34 wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:43 am
Last Place wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:32 pm I'm seriously considering trying to make a move for Fields. I feel like, although not great, his play wasn't as bad as his stats show. I really think he has been hampered by his teams poor play and nearly any location would be better than where he is now (Atlanta would be amazing). What's everyone think?
Fields will be a starter somewhere. Don't know your league or who the current Fields owner might be, but I'd say that he just MIGHT be buying into the mixed NFL assessment of Fields. Bottom line is that Fields is a very good FANTASY QB as long as he is starting... On that front you have to figure.

1) If the Bears keep him, they are likely committing to him as a starter for at least 2 years.

2) If a team trades for him, they will probably try to lock him up for beyond the 2 years.
I’m not sure I agree with 2 necessarily. If the price on fields is lower than we expect (nfl team trades a 3 for him for example), I don’t think that indicates that team will be locking him up long term without another year to see. They’ll pick up the option I imagine and go from there or definitely possible they try to spread the option across multiple years like packers did with love, but that’s not committing.

Definitely possible someone trades for him and commits but I don’t think that’s the probable situation…

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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby CGW » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:45 am

Mtt33 wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:38 am
Payton34 wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:43 am
Last Place wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:32 pm I'm seriously considering trying to make a move for Fields. I feel like, although not great, his play wasn't as bad as his stats show. I really think he has been hampered by his teams poor play and nearly any location would be better than where he is now (Atlanta would be amazing). What's everyone think?
Fields will be a starter somewhere. Don't know your league or who the current Fields owner might be, but I'd say that he just MIGHT be buying into the mixed NFL assessment of Fields. Bottom line is that Fields is a very good FANTASY QB as long as he is starting... On that front you have to figure.

1) If the Bears keep him, they are likely committing to him as a starter for at least 2 years.

2) If a team trades for him, they will probably try to lock him up for beyond the 2 years.
I’m not sure I agree with 2 necessarily. If the price on fields is lower than we expect (nfl team trades a 3 for him for example), I don’t think that indicates that team will be locking him up long term without another year to see. They’ll pick up the option I imagine and go from there or definitely possible they try to spread the option across multiple years like packers did with love, but that’s not committing.

Definitely possible someone trades for him and commits but I don’t think that’s the probable situation…
Agree, I don't think just because a team trades for him means they will extend him long term. That said, the fifth year option is not entirely prohibitive for a two year trial and a team could easily work out a Jordan Love type incentive based alternative to the 5th year option.

Also - I'd speculate the Bears get more than a 3rd for him.

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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby yinzername » Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:25 am

Breaking: Fields bound for ATL according to semi cryptic but reasonably sleuthed tweet

???

https://x.com/mikmcdaniel/status/176287 ... 3yjdpUIDgw
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Re: Is Fields a buy low?

Postby CGW » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:48 am

yinzername wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:25 am Breaking: Fields bound for ATL according to semi cryptic but reasonably sleuthed tweet

???

https://x.com/mikmcdaniel/status/176287 ... 3yjdpUIDgw
Don't believe that's accurate news, yet.


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