2024 Off-Season Trades

[wickerkat1212]

Got the 1.01. Will draft Harrison.

Wickerkat gave up

Jackson, Lamar BAL QB
Henry, Derrick TEN RB
Diggs, Stefon BUF WR
Downs, Josh IND WR
Andrews, Mark BAL TE
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.09
Year 2025 Round 1 Draft Pick from Wickerkat

Gus bus:) gave up

Pickett, Kenny PIT QB
Jefferson, Van ATL WR
Marshall, Terrace CAR WR
Smith Jr., Irv CIN TE
Washington, Darnell PIT TE
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.01

So, how did I do? Starters are now—

Allen
Kamara, Jacobs/DEPTH
Lamb, DJM, Puka, Olave, Harrison (1.01)
Ferguson
K
D

[mild]

Got the 1.01. Will draft Harrison.

Wickerkat gave up

Jackson, Lamar BAL QB
Henry, Derrick TEN RB
Diggs, Stefon BUF WR
Downs, Josh IND WR
Andrews, Mark BAL TE
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.09
Year 2025 Round 1 Draft Pick from Wickerkat

Gus bus:) gave up

Pickett, Kenny PIT QB
Jefferson, Van ATL WR
Marshall, Terrace CAR WR
Smith Jr., Irv CIN TE
Washington, Darnell PIT TE
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.01

So, how did I do? Starters are now—

Allen
Kamara, Jacobs/DEPTH
Lamb, DJM, Puka, Olave, Harrison (1.01)
Ferguson
K
D

You got absolutely destroyed.

Congrats on the meme post.

[wickerkat1212]

Got the 1.01. Will draft Harrison.

Wickerkat gave up

Jackson, Lamar BAL QB
Henry, Derrick TEN RB
Diggs, Stefon BUF WR
Downs, Josh IND WR
Andrews, Mark BAL TE
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.09
Year 2025 Round 1 Draft Pick from Wickerkat

Gus bus:) gave up

Pickett, Kenny PIT QB
Jefferson, Van ATL WR
Marshall, Terrace CAR WR
Smith Jr., Irv CIN TE
Washington, Darnell PIT TE
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.01

So, how did I do? Starters are now—

Allen
Kamara, Jacobs/DEPTH
Lamb, DJM, Puka, Olave, Harrison (1.01)
Ferguson
K
D

You got absolutely destroyed.

Congrats on the meme post.

Destroyed? Many people here said it wasn't enough. Eight quarters for a dollar. I'm giving up a lot of aging pieces to get Harrison, I'm not going to miss them. Lamar is the only guy of real value. Downs is a nice asset. Andrew is aging. And those late 1sts in a 1 QB aren't that great. She wanted Puka, and I kept my pieces. 25 pick is going to be late 9-12. I was in 1st/2nd all year and just added a super elite asset in Harrison. I'm thrilled.

[Jigga94]

Got the 1.01. Will draft Harrison.

Wickerkat gave up

Jackson, Lamar BAL QB
Henry, Derrick TEN RB
Diggs, Stefon BUF WR
Downs, Josh IND WR
Andrews, Mark BAL TE
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.09
Year 2025 Round 1 Draft Pick from Wickerkat

Gus bus:) gave up

Pickett, Kenny PIT QB
Jefferson, Van ATL WR
Marshall, Terrace CAR WR
Smith Jr., Irv CIN TE
Washington, Darnell PIT TE
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.01

So, how did I do? Starters are now—

Allen
Kamara, Jacobs/DEPTH
Lamb, DJM, Puka, Olave, Harrison (1.01)
Ferguson
K
D

That is a LOT for the 1.01. I am not a fan, All the guys you got back are trashcans. You gave up a top 6 QB, top 5 TE, 2 aging but still productive vets, a promising sophomore WR, late 1st and future 1st. I would think you could at least have withheld 2 pieces from that deal.

If it were my team, I would have held those picks and traded for RB as needed

[wickerkat1212]

Got the 1.01. Will draft Harrison.

Wickerkat gave up

Jackson, Lamar BAL QB
Henry, Derrick TEN RB
Diggs, Stefon BUF WR
Downs, Josh IND WR
Andrews, Mark BAL TE
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.09
Year 2025 Round 1 Draft Pick from Wickerkat

Gus bus:) gave up

Pickett, Kenny PIT QB
Jefferson, Van ATL WR
Marshall, Terrace CAR WR
Smith Jr., Irv CIN TE
Washington, Darnell PIT TE
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.01

So, how did I do? Starters are now—

Allen
Kamara, Jacobs/DEPTH
Lamb, DJM, Puka, Olave, Harrison (1.01)
Ferguson
K
D

That is a LOT for the 1.01. I am not a fan

They wanted Puka, and everyone said without Puka I couldn't get it done. Swapped Puka for Downs/Andrews and added the 25 1st which will be pretty late. Three firsts is the going rate, and my 1sts are all late. I was going to have to pay up if I wanted a share of Harrison, and so that's what I did here. I think I had the depth to do this.

[Jigga94]

Got the 1.01. Will draft Harrison.

Wickerkat gave up

Jackson, Lamar BAL QB
Henry, Derrick TEN RB
Diggs, Stefon BUF WR
Downs, Josh IND WR
Andrews, Mark BAL TE
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.09
Year 2025 Round 1 Draft Pick from Wickerkat

Gus bus:) gave up

Pickett, Kenny PIT QB
Jefferson, Van ATL WR
Marshall, Terrace CAR WR
Smith Jr., Irv CIN TE
Washington, Darnell PIT TE
Year 2024 Draft Pick 1.01

So, how did I do? Starters are now—

Allen
Kamara, Jacobs/DEPTH
Lamb, DJM, Puka, Olave, Harrison (1.01)
Ferguson
K
D

That is a LOT for the 1.01. I am not a fan

They wanted Puka, and everyone said without Puka I couldn't get it done. Swapped Puka for Downs/Andrews and added the 25 1st which will be pretty late. Three firsts is the going rate, and my 1sts are all late. I was going to have to pay up if I wanted a share of Harrison, and so that's what I did here. I think I had the depth to do this.

Any deal can be done if you give up 5 1sts in value. I think you went all in on one player by sacrificing some very good starters (not just depth) for another WR when your WR room was already strong. I get that you really like Harrison, but he's going to have to be HOF level for this to work out. I mean, that's nearly a starting lineup for 1 guy. Henry and Diggs, I get moving on from. Andrews is 28, which is not old by TE standards. Lamar is an Elite QB. You already had 4 great WR. How many do you start?

Lamar
Henry
Diggs, Downs
Andrews
1.09 + 25 1st

[BradyT]

I gave: Jameson Williams, Metchie, 5.05

I got: Jaylen Warren, 3.10, 4.11

[hockeyBjj]

Was super torn on this one. I traded away Jalen Waddle for the 1.02

I now have the 1.02 and 1.03 in that league to take both Nabers and Odunze

[wickerkat1212]

That is a LOT for the 1.01. I am not a fan

They wanted Puka, and everyone said without Puka I couldn't get it done. Swapped Puka for Downs/Andrews and added the 25 1st which will be pretty late. Three firsts is the going rate, and my 1sts are all late. I was going to have to pay up if I wanted a share of Harrison, and so that's what I did here. I think I had the depth to do this.

Any deal can be done if you give up 5 1sts in value. I think you went all in on one player by sacrificing some very good starters (not just depth) for another WR when your WR room was already strong. I get that you really like Harrison, but he's going to have to be HOF level for this to work out. I mean, that's nearly a starting lineup for 1 guy. Henry and Diggs, I get moving on from. Andrews is 28, which is not old by TE standards. Lamar is an Elite QB. You already had 4 great WR. How many do you start?

Lamar
Henry
Diggs, Downs
Andrews
1.09 + 25 1st

IDK about five firsts. I had a lot of offers where they wanted Puka and everyone here said no. Also, every other offer I put out was too little, scraps, four quarters for a dollar. I see this as three 1sts—Lamar and picks—and those picks are late, 1.09 this year, and probably 9-12 next year. Lamar and picks would not have to get it done. As you said, moving on from Henry/Diggs you get. So where is the overpay? Andrews? Downs? I like Downs, but he was a late 3rd round pick. If Andrews is the overpay, I'd rather give him up and try to find a TE than put Puka in this offer. QBs in this league are really tough to move, people just don't care. I've tried to move Lamar for years. So, IMO there is nothing her that stings, that hurts too much. Yes, I've given up a lot of depth, but that was the only way I was going to get Harrison. I wanted to get younger at WR and I really wanted a share of Harrison. I can't start five WRs no, but I just got a great young piece so I can focus on other parts of my team—moving older pieces for younger guys.

Thanks.

[kmbryant09]

They wanted Puka, and everyone said without Puka I couldn't get it done. Swapped Puka for Downs/Andrews and added the 25 1st which will be pretty late. Three firsts is the going rate, and my 1sts are all late. I was going to have to pay up if I wanted a share of Harrison, and so that's what I did here. I think I had the depth to do this.

Any deal can be done if you give up 5 1sts in value. I think you went all in on one player by sacrificing some very good starters (not just depth) for another WR when your WR room was already strong. I get that you really like Harrison, but he's going to have to be HOF level for this to work out. I mean, that's nearly a starting lineup for 1 guy. Henry and Diggs, I get moving on from. Andrews is 28, which is not old by TE standards. Lamar is an Elite QB. You already had 4 great WR. How many do you start?

Lamar
Henry
Diggs, Downs
Andrews
1.09 + 25 1st

IDK about five firsts. I had a lot of offers where they wanted Puka and everyone here said no. Also, every other offer I put out was too little, scraps, four quarters for a dollar. I see this as three 1sts—Lamar and picks—and those picks are late, 1.09 this year, and probably 9-12 next year. Lamar and picks would not have to get it done. As you said, moving on from Henry/Diggs you get. So where is the overpay? Andrews? Downs? I like Downs, but he was a late 3rd round pick. If Andrews is the overpay, I'd rather give him up and try to find a TE than put Puka in this offer. QBs in this league are really tough to move, people just don't care. I've tried to move Lamar for years. So, IMO there is nothing her that stings, that hurts too much. Yes, I've given up a lot of depth, but that was the only way I was going to get Harrison. I wanted to get younger at WR and I really wanted a share of Harrison. I can't start five WRs no, but I just got a great young piece so I can focus on other parts of my team—moving older pieces for younger guys.

Thanks.

How do you see this deal as 3x firsts for Harrison? You literally gave up 2x firsts, a top3 TE, a top5 QB, a promising 2nd year WR (probably worth an early 2nd), and 2 aging but still very productive vets in Henry & Diggs (I think Diggs could easily net you a first, and Henry likely an early 2nd).

I'd argue you gave up about 5 firsts worth of value. 2x actual firsts, 1.5x firsts for Andrews, 1x first for Diggs, and 2x early/mid 2nds in Henry & Downs. Oh yeah, and Lamar Jackson.

I think this is a lose-lose trade unless the previous 1.01 owner has a competitive team and had someone else's pick. I get your interest in moving off of aging players, but Andrews & Lamar have years' worth of elite production ahead of them, while I think Diggs & Henry still have great short-term (1-2 years) production ahead. Plus 2x firsts (albeit late) and a young WR prospect. I don't think you had the depth, particularly at RB & TE, for this move to push you over the top - I'd argue your win-now team just took a major step back production wise, and the 1.01 rebuilder just turned themselves into an aging middle-of-the-road team.

Hope it works out for you.

[mild]

I don't think you had the depth, particularly at RB & TE, for this move to push you over the top - I'd argue your win-now team just took a major step back production wise, and the 1.01 rebuilder just turned themselves into an aging middle-of-the-road team.

Hope it works out for you.

Pretty much how I thought it looked, agreed.

So long as the point is to not win this year, it's a fine trade.

Your margin for error will be incredibly thin, though. Your trade partner is gambling on this... by minusing all of your vet depth, there's a good chance your 2025 pick is high if anything goes wrong.

I'd sooner pay a 5x 1sts ransom for someone proven, like Ceedee / Jefferson / Chase.

But congrats on your very nice college prospect WR.

[wickerkat1212]

Any deal can be done if you give up 5 1sts in value. I think you went all in on one player by sacrificing some very good starters (not just depth) for another WR when your WR room was already strong. I get that you really like Harrison, but he's going to have to be HOF level for this to work out. I mean, that's nearly a starting lineup for 1 guy. Henry and Diggs, I get moving on from. Andrews is 28, which is not old by TE standards. Lamar is an Elite QB. You already had 4 great WR. How many do you start?

Lamar
Henry
Diggs, Downs
Andrews
1.09 + 25 1st

IDK about five firsts. I had a lot of offers where they wanted Puka and everyone here said no. Also, every other offer I put out was too little, scraps, four quarters for a dollar. I see this as three 1sts—Lamar and picks—and those picks are late, 1.09 this year, and probably 9-12 next year. Lamar and picks would not have to get it done. As you said, moving on from Henry/Diggs you get. So where is the overpay? Andrews? Downs? I like Downs, but he was a late 3rd round pick. If Andrews is the overpay, I'd rather give him up and try to find a TE than put Puka in this offer. QBs in this league are really tough to move, people just don't care. I've tried to move Lamar for years. So, IMO there is nothing her that stings, that hurts too much. Yes, I've given up a lot of depth, but that was the only way I was going to get Harrison. I wanted to get younger at WR and I really wanted a share of Harrison. I can't start five WRs no, but I just got a great young piece so I can focus on other parts of my team—moving older pieces for younger guys.

Thanks.

How do you see this deal as 3x firsts for Harrison? You literally gave up 2x firsts, a top3 TE, a top5 QB, a promising 2nd year WR (probably worth an early 2nd), and 2 aging but still very productive vets in Henry & Diggs (I think Diggs could easily net you a first, and Henry likely an early 2nd).

I'd argue you gave up about 5 firsts worth of value. 2x actual firsts, 1.5x firsts for Andrews, 1x first for Diggs, and 2x early/mid 2nds in Henry & Downs. Oh yeah, and Lamar Jackson.

I think this is a lose-lose trade unless the previous 1.01 owner has a competitive team and had someone else's pick. I get your interest in moving off of aging players, but Andrews & Lamar have years' worth of elite production ahead of them, while I think Diggs & Henry still have great short-term (1-2 years) production ahead. Plus 2x firsts (albeit late) and a young WR prospect. I don't think you had the depth, particularly at RB & TE, for this move to push you over the top - I'd argue your win-now team just took a major step back production wise, and the 1.01 rebuilder just turned themselves into an aging middle-of-the-road team.

Hope it works out for you.

Thanks, appreciate that. I tend to hold players until they are worthless.

Lamar—yes, he's worth a late first but I could not move him for anything in this league.
Andrews—I guess he's worth a 1st, but I don't think he's elite, there are comparables for less.
1.09
2014 1st—late
Henry—aging, may get traded, worth a late 2nd
Downs—drafted him late 3rd, he's worth a second
Diggs—worth early 2nd, is aging

So I see the value, but I have the depth to do this.
People don't value QB in this league.
Andrews—this one stings a bit, but I feel I can find a guy that is close.
Henry—loved him, he's aging, may be FA, when does he fall apart?
Downs—I had to put in some youth, they wanted Puka. I can live with this.
Diggs—love him, but he seems to be showing signs of age.

Everyone told me this offer was crap when it didn't have Downs/Andrews/25 1st. So that's the overpay.

This is a fun league, only $50.
I don't need Harrison to be HOF, I just need him to be a WR1.
This doesn't cripple my team. I will hitting the WW, dropping the garbage I got sent back.

Have fun with your teams.

[wickerkat1212]

I don't think you had the depth, particularly at RB & TE, for this move to push you over the top - I'd argue your win-now team just took a major step back production wise, and the 1.01 rebuilder just turned themselves into an aging middle-of-the-road team.

Hope it works out for you.

Pretty much how I thought it looked, agreed.

So long as the point is to not win this year, it's a fine trade.

Your margin for error will be incredibly thin, though. Your trade partner is gambling on this... by minusing all of your vet depth, there's a good chance your 2025 pick is high if anything goes wrong.

I'd sooner pay a 5x 1sts ransom for someone proven, like Ceedee / Jefferson / Chase.

But congrats on your very nice college prospect WR.

Thanks. I'm having fun.

[smbkrypt24]

1 QB league.

Gave: 1.03, 1.04
Received 1.01

[Jrblaha]

1 QB league.

Gave: 1.03, 1.04
Received 1.01

This will be fun to revisit as I have no idea what side I prefer lol