Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby DJB » Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:23 am

Once again Lamar flopped in the playoffs when it mattered most.

Hes propped up by the Ravens defense and he’s not in the top grouping of Mahomes and Allen.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:34 am

DJB wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:23 am Once again Lamar flopped in the playoffs when it mattered most.

Hes propped up by the Ravens defense and he’s not in the top grouping of Mahomes and Allen.
Mahomes is in a tier of his own.

Allen and Jackson are more/less the same tier.

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Tvols » Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:17 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:34 am
DJB wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:23 am Once again Lamar flopped in the playoffs when it mattered most.

Hes propped up by the Ravens defense and he’s not in the top grouping of Mahomes and Allen.
Mahomes is in a tier of his own.

Allen and Jackson are more/less the same tier.
Jackson is what he has always been a RB playing Qb, nothing wrong with that. When he is down and must score quickly against a better than average def they struggle(Titans did the same thing to him in his MVP year), they are built for mostly short to med passes his deep ball is not good and his processing is slow. He actually should be getting the same blame as Dak but he isnt. I have said it more than once what do you have with him once his legs start to fail him? not much, maybe he becomes an elite passer i doubt it , yet but its possible. He doesnt deserve the MVP anymore than Purdy, Dak, Allen maybe now you can throw in mahomes as he has worked his magic again.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Ice » Tue Jan 30, 2024 12:12 pm

Shoreline Steamers wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 11:46 pm
remedy29 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:08 pm They need to pair Lamar with some real talent at RB. Maybe Saquan, Henry? I do think Lamar has the talent to win a SB. Although, Mahomes is always going to be there and will be tough for anyone to beat.
I agree with this. Gus and Justice just aren't it.

A serious running game in addition to what Lamar can do on the ground would be truly formidable. And don't start with, "J.K. is coming back next season."

Been there, done that.
While every team would love to have an elite do it all RB, the reality is the Raven's had the best running game by a pretty wide margin and were 2nd in YPC this season.

They had a terrible game plan and made a ton of mental mistakes. Edwards ran for 15 yards his first carry....When did he touch the ball again?

When a team runs for 2661 yards at a 4.9 YPC to lead the league in team rushing that is formidable.

The Ravens ability to run the ball had zero to do with that loss. They were out coached and the players may have been drinking their own Kool-Aid. They were undisciplined and that that is why they lost the game even though they looked to me to have the more raw talent than KC.

On a side note, it is obvious that Mahomes is the most talented QB on planet earth today and it isn't really even debatable at this point.
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby KingsKing » Tue Jan 30, 2024 1:24 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:34 am
DJB wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:23 am Once again Lamar flopped in the playoffs when it mattered most.

Hes propped up by the Ravens defense and he’s not in the top grouping of Mahomes and Allen.
Mahomes is in a tier of his own.

Allen and Jackson are more/less the same tier.
Allen is imo on a much higher level , he eats a lot of $hit about not winning in the playoffs but he has played like a stud in the playoffs and Lamar has been $hit. His lack of success is alot more about coaching, bad luck and running into the Chiefs .

Allen in the playoffs 5-5 record 65% comp 2727 yards passing and 21 tds with 4 ints. Another 567 yards rushing and 5tds.

Lamar 2-4 record in the playoffs 57% compl 1324 yards passing and 6 tds with 6 ints. Another 521 yards rushing and 3 tds.

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby DJB » Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:02 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:34 am
DJB wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:23 am Once again Lamar flopped in the playoffs when it mattered most.

Hes propped up by the Ravens defense and he’s not in the top grouping of Mahomes and Allen.
Mahomes is in a tier of his own.

Allen and Jackson are more/less the same tier.
Allen and Mahomes are in the same tier. Burrow possibly with those two.

Jackson is definitely below Burrow as well
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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:28 pm

DJB wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:02 pm
Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:34 am
DJB wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:23 am Once again Lamar flopped in the playoffs when it mattered most.

Hes propped up by the Ravens defense and he’s not in the top grouping of Mahomes and Allen.
Mahomes is in a tier of his own.

Allen and Jackson are more/less the same tier.
Allen and Mahomes are in the same tier. Burrow possibly with those two.

Jackson is definitely below Burrow as well
Mahomes could be on his 3rd Super Bowl in a few weeks. Allen, Lamar, and Burrow are not in his tier until they do something comparable.

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Re: Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL & Fantasy

Postby Anteaters » Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:58 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 5:28 pmMahomes could be on his 3rd Super Bowl in a few weeks. Allen, Lamar, and Burrow are not in his tier until they do something comparable.
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Impossible to argue otherwise. Everyone else is competing for a spot on the tier below Mahomes.
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