2023 Week Ten—Let's go

[wickerkat1212]

I keep hearing this term "victory points" thrown around on this site, have never heard of it before. What is that?

It's a way of calculating the league standings. Instead of W-L record. For example, In a given week you get two points for winning your head to head matchup and two points for being the top 1/3 of scores that week, for four victory points. A team that loses its head to head matchup gets zero points for that, but if they still score in the top 1/3, they earn two victory points. Leagues have different values & scoring, but basically that.

It removes some of the bad luck factor of so much weight on a head to head matchup.

Yep, this exactly. It helps the sting of those "bad beats" where you lose 172-165 and would have beaten everyone else in the league. It's as described above:

Win, get 2 points.
Lose, get 0 points.
12-team league: 1-4 in points gets 2, 5-8 gets 1, 9-12 gets 0.

So ideally every week you get 4 points.

In one league, I'm in first place at 8-2 with 30 VPS over a guy at 9-1 with 29 VPS. All of my leagues use VPS.

[Prison_Mike]

I keep hearing this term "victory points" thrown around on this site, have never heard of it before. What is that?

It's a way of calculating the league standings. Instead of W-L record. For example, In a given week you get two points for winning your head to head matchup and two points for being the top 1/3 of scores that week, for four victory points. A team that loses its head to head matchup gets zero points for that, but if they still score in the top 1/3, they earn two victory points. Leagues have different values & scoring, but basically that.

It removes some of the bad luck factor of so much weight on a head to head matchup.

Yep, this exactly. It helps the sting of those "bad beats" where you lose 172-165 and would have beaten everyone else in the league. It's as described above:

Win, get 2 points.
Lose, get 0 points.
12-team league: 1-4 in points gets 2, 5-8 gets 1, 9-12 gets 0.

So ideally every week you get 4 points.

In one league, I'm in first place at 8-2 with 30 VPS over a guy at 9-1 with 29 VPS. All of my leagues use VPS.

Very interesting. Maybe I'll introduce it after this season and we can vote on it.

But no, this league (like all my leagues in fact) is straight head-to-head. No league median, no victory points, just straight up 'did you score more points than your arbitrarily assigned opponent?' lol

[wickerkat1212]

It's a way of calculating the league standings. Instead of W-L record. For example, In a given week you get two points for winning your head to head matchup and two points for being the top 1/3 of scores that week, for four victory points. A team that loses its head to head matchup gets zero points for that, but if they still score in the top 1/3, they earn two victory points. Leagues have different values & scoring, but basically that.

It removes some of the bad luck factor of so much weight on a head to head matchup.

Yep, this exactly. It helps the sting of those "bad beats" where you lose 172-165 and would have beaten everyone else in the league. It's as described above:

Win, get 2 points.
Lose, get 0 points.
12-team league: 1-4 in points gets 2, 5-8 gets 1, 9-12 gets 0.

So ideally every week you get 4 points.

In one league, I'm in first place at 8-2 with 30 VPS over a guy at 9-1 with 29 VPS. All of my leagues use VPS.

Very interesting. Maybe I'll introduce it after this season and we can vote on it.

But no, this league (like all my leagues in fact) is straight head-to-head. No league median, no victory points, just straight up 'did you score more points than your arbitrarily assigned opponent?' lol

Yeah, I like the old-school rules, too. Any given Sunday, right? I think where I got on board with VPs is that if you're consistently in the top four of points each week, you should make the playoffs, you shouldn't be drafting higher. By adding VPs, the best teams make the playoffs, and you don't get a mediocre team running into a buzz saw, AND your bad and average teams get higher picks in the draft.

I'm in a new SafeLeague league and they have an interesting wrinkle, too. They order the DRAFT by POTENTIAL POINTS. So, playoffs is just straight up W-L, but the order for DRAFT is based on potential points. So it totally eliminates tanking. I kind of like it.

[Jigga94]

Rookie Snap Share % Week 1-10
*left early/injury

RB
Bijan - 63, 72, 81, 76, 61, 77, 17*, 74, 61, 75
Gibbs - 27, 48, 60, 37, 0*, 0*, 87, 70, bye, 58

Achane - 0, 10, 41, 60, 48, 0*, 0*, 0*, 0*, 0*
Spears - 54, 37, 56, 53, 52, 56, bye, 44, 59, 60
Charb - 24, 26, 43, 24, bye, 24, 0*, 59, 55, 52
Roschon - 39, 42, 45, 22, 9*, 0*, 0*, 36, 29, 42

Kendre - 0, 0, 34, 8, 36, 22, 3, 14, 10, 0*
Demercado- 5, 12, 18, 35, 77, 43, 80, 55, 0*, 0*
McLaughlin- 8, 5, 21, 33, 33, 40, 17, 11, bye, 15
Bigsby - 21, 19, 12, 12, 15, 27, 14, 8, bye, 18
Deuce- 14, 15, 0, 31, 10, 0, bye, 0, 0, 6
Tucker - 15, 24, 9, 0, bye, 0, 0, 0, 0, 2
Keaton - 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 3, 0, 18, 24

WR
Puka - 78, 86, 96, 95, 100, 96, 93, 92, 81, bye
Flowers- 84, 77, 93, 98, 99, 89, 72, 75, 68, 87
Addison- 56, 69, 71, 58, 75, 86, 74, 94, 97, 97
Dell - 48, 79, 61, 70, 36*, 0*, bye, 78, 85, 96
Wilson - 90, 43, 67, 70, 75, 88, 83, 88, 0*, 89
Mingo - 87, 98, 33*, 0*, 86, 93, bye, 99, 96, 98

Downs - 79, 75, 80, 73, 71, 78, 71, 80, 20*, 25*
JSN - 59, 56, 44, 53, bye, 72, 63, 66, 82, 62
Palmer- 34, 49, 72, 75, bye, 66, 64, 81, 73, 83
Douglas- 41, 8, 24, 33, 13, 0*, 62, 77, 83, 72
QJ - 27, 15, 24, 51, bye, 48, 54, 70, 83, 85
Rice - 31, 18, 51, 46, 30, 49, 59, 61, 68, bye

Reed - 53, 56, 66, 67, 50, bye, 48, 78, 39, 51
Hyatt - 36, 21, 32, 60, 46, 73, 71, 33, 59, 30*
Mims - 27, 24, 24, 35, 32, 23, 31, 39, bye, 39
Wicks - 62, 50, 66, 58, 22, bye, 22, 34, 32, 44
Boutte - 69, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 38
Tillman - 15, 10, 15, 20, bye, 0, 0, 0, 74, 85

TE
Laporta - 83, 82, 74, 80, 87, 83, 72, 94, bye, 80
Kincaid - 80, 60, 51, 52, 53, 0*, 61, 84, 90, 76
Musgrave- 75, 88, 86, 25*, 69, bye, 67, 72, 83, 74
Mayer - 49, 40, 47, 51, 66, 81, 71, 91, 88, 88

Schoonmaker- 28, 36, 23, 56, 41, 27, bye, 38, 16, 36
Washington- 38, 48, 47, 42, 70, bye, 53, 15, 49, 51
Kraft - 22, 4, 13, 23, 40, bye, 50, 28, 39, 51


Charbonnet has outsnapped Walker 3 straight weeks. Spears has 12 less snaps than Henry all year.
Gibbs still lead the backfield, interested to see how it shakes out as Monty gets back to 100% healthy
Couple RB inactive, Tucker got back to RB3, Keaton had a few more splash plays

QJ, Tillman and Douglas seeing an uptick with a lot of starters going down/traded

Top 4 TE looking very good as of late

[Prison_Mike]

Yep, this exactly. It helps the sting of those "bad beats" where you lose 172-165 and would have beaten everyone else in the league. It's as described above:

Win, get 2 points.
Lose, get 0 points.
12-team league: 1-4 in points gets 2, 5-8 gets 1, 9-12 gets 0.

So ideally every week you get 4 points.

In one league, I'm in first place at 8-2 with 30 VPS over a guy at 9-1 with 29 VPS. All of my leagues use VPS.

Very interesting. Maybe I'll introduce it after this season and we can vote on it.

But no, this league (like all my leagues in fact) is straight head-to-head. No league median, no victory points, just straight up 'did you score more points than your arbitrarily assigned opponent?' lol

Yeah, I like the old-school rules, too. Any given Sunday, right? I think where I got on board with VPs is that if you're consistently in the top four of points each week, you should make the playoffs, you shouldn't be drafting higher. By adding VPs, the best teams make the playoffs, and you don't get a mediocre team running into a buzz saw, AND your bad and average teams get higher picks in the draft.

I'm in a new SafeLeague league and they have an interesting wrinkle, too. They order the DRAFT by POTENTIAL POINTS. So, playoffs is just straight up W-L, but the order for DRAFT is based on potential points. So it totally eliminates tanking. I kind of like it.

Yeah all of my leagues determine non-playoff draft order by max (potential) points. It doesn't eliminate tanking, it makes it so you can only tank the right way - (by trading liquidating your roster and eliminating its ability to score points)

[FantasyFreak]

Very interesting. Maybe I'll introduce it after this season and we can vote on it.

But no, this league (like all my leagues in fact) is straight head-to-head. No league median, no victory points, just straight up 'did you score more points than your arbitrarily assigned opponent?' lol

Yeah, I like the old-school rules, too. Any given Sunday, right? I think where I got on board with VPs is that if you're consistently in the top four of points each week, you should make the playoffs, you shouldn't be drafting higher. By adding VPs, the best teams make the playoffs, and you don't get a mediocre team running into a buzz saw, AND your bad and average teams get higher picks in the draft.

I'm in a new SafeLeague league and they have an interesting wrinkle, too. They order the DRAFT by POTENTIAL POINTS. So, playoffs is just straight up W-L, but the order for DRAFT is based on potential points. So it totally eliminates tanking. I kind of like it.

Yeah all of my leagues determine non-playoff draft order by max (potential) points. It doesn't eliminate tanking, it makes it so you can only tank the right way - (by trading liquidating your roster and eliminating its ability to score points)

I actually meant to do this in a league I started, and totally forgot once I started it.

I am currently out of the playoffs at 5-5, with the most points in the league. My points against are more than any other team by almost 13 points per game. Some teams have more than 30 points per game against, less than me. I do love the win or lose mentality of H2H, but sometimes, it's all about the luck of the draw on the schedule.

Also, potential points is pretty common for non playoff teams. I am surprised you're not in any leagues with it, save this new one.

[abloom]

Eh sometimes I don't like victory points. Team #1 in signature, 1st for record, 3rd for vps lol. Also currently the only team I'm not in week 1 bye position.

[FantasyFreak]

Eh sometimes I don't like victory points. Team #2 in signature, 1st for record, 3rd for vps lol. Also currently the only team I'm not in week 1 bye position.

I played in best ball, liked it for a while, then kind of soured on it for a few reasons. I still do like the finality of H2H.

[hoos89]

Eh sometimes I don't like victory points. Team #2 in signature, 1st for record, 3rd for vps lol. Also currently the only team I'm not in week 1 bye position.

That probably means your team has has some lucky weeks though where you scored below median but won. Of course there's a flipside to VPs but hard to argue that's unfair.

[Anteaters]

Of course there's a flipside to VPs but [s]hard[/s] IMPOSSIBLE to argue that's unfair.

T,FTFY