CJ Stroud versus the 2024 1.01
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Re: CJ Stroud versus the 2024 1.01
100% Stroud don't get cute
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Re: CJ Stroud versus the 2024 1.01
I will have the 1.01 in two 12 team SF TEP leagues, and as of this moment, I plan to take MHJ with the 1.01 in both leagues.SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:18 pmYou think MHJ is 1.01 or meaning trade back from 1.01?Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:07 pmYeah. If your plan is to draft a qb, you might as well just go stroud and know you got a real one. If the plan is not to take a qb, then holding is fine too.Menace2010 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 12:19 pm I've missed on WAY too many QB evaluations to not take the guy already performing at an exceptionally high level in the NFL. I vividly remember when Josh Rosen and Dwayne Haskins were a sure thing...
In my experiences, QB's are totally overvalued in SF leagues, since my leagues tend to be upside down.
Teams with better QB's are near the bottom of the standings while teams with weaker QB's are at the top of the standings.
In one league where I have the 1.01, my QB's are Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Jordan Love.
In the other league where I will get the 1.01, my QB's are Herbert, TLaw, Watson, Pickett, Z. Wilson, and Dobbs.
Teams in 1st place in these leagues have Carr, Geno, Dobbs, Winston, DeVito in one league, and Goff, Stafford in the other league.
These stats seem to indicate that spending top capital on the QB position is a mistake.
I would try to trade down, but realizing how little value QB's have in these leagues, I would be shocked if anyone was interested in the 1.01 for any other player besides MHJ.
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Re: CJ Stroud versus the 2024 1.01
Stroud, quite easily for me.
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My SF league is similar and managers also put a lower value than the DFL crowd on QBs in general.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:54 pmIn one league where I have the 1.01, my QB's are Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Jordan Love.SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:18 pmYou think MHJ is 1.01 or meaning trade back from 1.01?Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:07 pm
Yeah. If your plan is to draft a qb, you might as well just go stroud and know you got a real one. If the plan is not to take a qb, then holding is fine too.
In the other league where I will get the 1.01, my QB's are Herbert, TLaw, Watson, Pickett, Z. Wilson, and Dobbs.
Three teams tied for first right now:
One: Burrow/R.Wilson/no other QBs
Two: Hurts/Purdy/no other QBs
Three: Love/Z.Wilson/Garrop/Cousins
Folks routinely start non-QBs in the SF. It's not like I can post to the message board educating them why this isn't the best strategy! It's what they're doing and it's working in a way. I'm not going to be able to trade with them and get the kind of values we routinely discuss here in the forums. Net/net: Know your league.
Re: CJ Stroud versus the 2024 1.01
After this week and watching the highlights, I officially changed my vote to Stroud. He is the real deal and in command.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Re: CJ Stroud versus the 2024 1.01
this can't be Superflex because Stroud is worth way more than 1.01. In a standard league, the way hes playing I'd say hes slightly valued at 1.01... I mean you might have the new Mahones for the next 12 yrs! but QB is always easy to replace. As a Stroud owner in 1 league, If I got offered 1.01 I would take it but it would be tough
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Re: CJ Stroud versus the 2024 1.01
I definitely don’t think he is 1.01 or really that close in standard, but in SF he is worth more than 1.01 imo.kellysheroes wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:51 pm this can't be Superflex because Stroud is worth way more than 1.01. In a standard league, the way hes playing I'd say hes slightly valued at 1.01... I mean you might have the new Mahones for the next 12 yrs! but QB is always easy to replace. As a Stroud owner in 1 league, If I got offered 1.01 I would take it but it would be tough
The debate was SF TEP I believe
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
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Re: CJ Stroud versus the 2024 1.01
Yeah, our leagues seem very similar, it would blow these QB is king in SF gurus minds.tstafford wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:53 amMy SF league is similar and managers also put a lower value than the DFL crowd on QBs in general.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:54 pmIn one league where I have the 1.01, my QB's are Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Jordan Love.SteveMaddensShoes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 9:18 pm
You think MHJ is 1.01 or meaning trade back from 1.01?
In the other league where I will get the 1.01, my QB's are Herbert, TLaw, Watson, Pickett, Z. Wilson, and Dobbs.
Three teams tied for first right now:
One: Burrow/R.Wilson/no other QBs
Two: Hurts/Purdy/no other QBs
Three: Love/Z.Wilson/Garrop/Cousins
Folks routinely start non-QBs in the SF. It's not like I can post to the message board educating them why this isn't the best strategy! It's what they're doing and it's working in a way. I'm not going to be able to trade with them and get the kind of values we routinely discuss here in the forums. Net/net: Know your league.
In 3 of my 12 team SF leagues, current 1st place team QB's are:
1. Goff/Stafford
2. R. Wilson/Stafford/Tannehill/Dobbs/Levis
3. Carr/Geno/Dobbs
Meanwhile, I have the 1.01 in 2 leagues with:
1. Mahomes/ J. Allen/ J. Love
2. Herbert/TLaw/Watson/ Pickett/Dobbs
And a friend of mine has the 1.01 in his league with: Kyler, Stroud, Watson
We all plan on taking MHJ with the 1.01.
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Very likely with you on that call.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:01 amYeah, our leagues seem very similar, it would blow these QB is king in SF gurus minds.tstafford wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:53 amMy SF league is similar and managers also put a lower value than the DFL crowd on QBs in general.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:54 pm
In one league where I have the 1.01, my QB's are Mahomes, Josh Allen, and Jordan Love.
In the other league where I will get the 1.01, my QB's are Herbert, TLaw, Watson, Pickett, Z. Wilson, and Dobbs.
Three teams tied for first right now:
One: Burrow/R.Wilson/no other QBs
Two: Hurts/Purdy/no other QBs
Three: Love/Z.Wilson/Garrop/Cousins
Folks routinely start non-QBs in the SF. It's not like I can post to the message board educating them why this isn't the best strategy! It's what they're doing and it's working in a way. I'm not going to be able to trade with them and get the kind of values we routinely discuss here in the forums. Net/net: Know your league.
In 3 of my 12 team SF leagues, current 1st place team QB's are:
1. Goff/Stafford
2. R. Wilson/Stafford/Tannehill/Dobbs/Levis
3. Carr/Geno/Dobbs
Meanwhile, I have the 1.01 in 2 leagues with:
1. Mahomes/ J. Allen/ J. Love
2. Herbert/TLaw/Watson/ Pickett/Dobbs
And a friend of mine has the 1.01 in his league with: Kyler, Stroud, Watson
We all plan on taking MHJ with the 1.01.
I have Kyler/Tua/Carr/Levis/Willis/DTR/Zappe/Cunningham
Carr has little value in my league - I shopped him so I know. It's better just to use him as a QB3 and free myself up to take MHJR who will be a weekly starter for me. We start eight position players plus QB/SF. Depth matters a bunch. I'm fine to start Kyler/Tua most weeks. I hope CW hits big - will be great for football. But I can live without him on my team.
Doesn't hurt that I have five firsts and what should be the 2.01. Can get a lesser QB than CW to add to the mix if I want.
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