ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

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ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby slaughterrt » Sat Oct 14, 2023 2:23 pm

10 team superflex ppr and TEP. Standard scoring everywhere else and standard starting requirements. I am rebuilding and another owner reached out to see if I was interested in Chase. Obviously I am if the price is right.

So I get an offer:
I send Amon Ra and LaPorta
For his Chase.

My initial reaction was to decline (which I did). I have ARSB in the 2nd tier of WRs (JJ and Chase in first tier, and guys like Lamb/Amon Ra/Garrett/Olave/AJB/a couple others in 2nd tier). So I’m certainly fine giving up something extra to Amon Ra to get Chase. But I’m having a hard time giving up LaPorta. I countered with Amon Ra+Pitts but haven’t gotten an answer yet.

Was I too hasty in declining? Am I drinking the LaPorta koolaid (I am very high on him).

Thoughts on this trade that I didn’t make.

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Re: ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby frerichs5 » Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:07 pm

TEP is too vague. Need to know what it actually is to know LaPorta’s real value. That said, I think what was offered is fair. As a Chase team, I would think about, but not sure I could trade him for that. Depends on my team and TEP I guess.

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Re: ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby slaughterrt » Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:09 pm

frerichs5 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:07 pm TEP is too vague. Need to know what it actually is to know LaPorta’s real value. That said, I think what was offered is fair. As a Chase team, I would think about, but not sure I could trade him for that. Depends on my team and TEP I guess.
Sorry wasn’t specific enough on the TEP. So the scoring is
1ppr for WR
1.5ppr for RB
2ppr for TE

Start between 1-3 TEs (two flex spots)

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Re: ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby frerichs5 » Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:12 pm

slaughterrt wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:09 pm
frerichs5 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:07 pm TEP is too vague. Need to know what it actually is to know LaPorta’s real value. That said, I think what was offered is fair. As a Chase team, I would think about, but not sure I could trade him for that. Depends on my team and TEP I guess.
Sorry wasn’t specific enough on the TEP. So the scoring is
1ppr for WR
1.5ppr for RB
2ppr for TE

Start between 1-3 TEs (two flex spots)
That’s the same TEP I play in then. It’s a huge premium and can make TE very valuable. I think this is pretty fair. I would hesitate if I was on either side of this trade.

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Re: ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby slaughterrt » Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:14 pm

frerichs5 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:12 pm
slaughterrt wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:09 pm
frerichs5 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:07 pm TEP is too vague. Need to know what it actually is to know LaPorta’s real value. That said, I think what was offered is fair. As a Chase team, I would think about, but not sure I could trade him for that. Depends on my team and TEP I guess.
Sorry wasn’t specific enough on the TEP. So the scoring is
1ppr for WR
1.5ppr for RB
2ppr for TE

Start between 1-3 TEs (two flex spots)
That’s the same TEP I play in then. It’s a huge premium and can make TE very valuable. I think this is pretty fair. I would hesitate if I was on either side of this trade.
Thanks. That’s sorta where I’m at. I couldn’t pull the trigger, but then I started second guessing my decision not to.

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Re: ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby Gator Sens » Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:54 pm

Based on the heavy premium, the value is slightly with St Brown + but it seems strange. Better hope he keeps rolling or this could be a regretful pass...

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Re: ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:06 pm

I'm taking the package. 2 PPR for Laporta, who is a lot of people's TE1 in Dynasty right now, pushes this over the top. ARSB is a legit top 10 WR, and Chase tied to Burrow is awesome, and he's elite, but I like the package here.

I'd hold here.
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Re: ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby tstafford » Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:44 am

Gator Sens wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:54 pm Based on the heavy premium, the value is slightly with St Brown + but it seems strange. Better hope he keeps rolling or this could be a regretful pass...
Well said. It's possible (not saying probably/likely) that LaPorta's value is as high as it will ever be.

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Re: ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby TheTroll » Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:15 am

tstafford wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 2:44 am
Gator Sens wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:54 pm Based on the heavy premium, the value is slightly with St Brown + but it seems strange. Better hope he keeps rolling or this could be a regretful pass...
Well said. It's possible (not saying probably/likely) that LaPorta's value is as high as it will ever be.
Agreed…for this to make sense, LaPorta needs to be a yearly top 3 TE
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Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

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2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

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Re: ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby Trevormortis » Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:07 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:06 pm I'm taking the package. 2 PPR for Laporta, who is a lot of people's TE1 in Dynasty right now, pushes this over the top. ARSB is a legit top 10 WR, and Chase tied to Burrow is awesome, and he's elite, but I like the package here.

I'd hold here.
Agree with this in such a strong TEP format.
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QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5

Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
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WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
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Re: ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:01 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:06 pm I'm taking the package. 2 PPR for Laporta, who is a lot of people's TE1 in Dynasty right now, pushes this over the top. ARSB is a legit top 10 WR, and Chase tied to Burrow is awesome, and he's elite, but I like the package here.

I'd hold here.
Yeah, I have 2 leagues in that format and TEs are crazy valuable. If Laporta is actually legit, his value will be the same as Chases. It sounds bonkers but if you play in that format you understand.

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Re: ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:53 am

That’s not Laporta Koolaid. That’s the 16 year single malt.

Like others have said if he falls off you lose the deal but you have to pay for guys that could be game changers. He could be one in that format.

And ARSB is always undervalued. Reminds me of guys like Keenan.
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11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

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12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

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Re: ARSB+LaPorta or Chase?

Postby slaughterrt » Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:02 am

Yeah I think the best move right now is no move. Thanks all.


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