Russ for future picks
Russ for future picks
Blowing up a team. Have sold pretty much everything for picks. Have 4 1sts and 2-3 2nds in each of '24, '25, 26.
Have an offer to give Russ for a '26 1st and 2nd. Have been shopping him and not getting much interest- definitely nothing close to a 1st and 2nd. Would you cash out here, or hold out and hope he rebounds?
Have an offer to give Russ for a '26 1st and 2nd. Have been shopping him and not getting much interest- definitely nothing close to a 1st and 2nd. Would you cash out here, or hold out and hope he rebounds?
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Cook, AJones, Zeke, Chandler, Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, MHJ, DJM, Worthy, QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins Vea
DE- Bosa, Landry. Greenard Ebukam, Young
LB- Campbell,Speed, Colson, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Cook, AJones, Zeke, Chandler, Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, MHJ, DJM, Worthy, QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins Vea
DE- Bosa, Landry. Greenard Ebukam, Young
LB- Campbell,Speed, Colson, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
Re: Russ for future picks
I'm assuming this is a SF league and not for any teams in your sig?
I'd take it. I have zero belief Russ returns to his SEA level of performance and even if he rebounds a bit this year his value will likely never be more than this offer you're getting. It's definitely a very long term payoff, but if this is truly a long haul rebuild I'd take it.
I'd take it. I have zero belief Russ returns to his SEA level of performance and even if he rebounds a bit this year his value will likely never be more than this offer you're getting. It's definitely a very long term payoff, but if this is truly a long haul rebuild I'd take it.
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QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
Re: Russ for future picks
Id probably do it as I don't believe in Russ but geez... blowing up your team for picks 3 years out.
There are ways to rebuild without having to wait years to be competitive.
There are ways to rebuild without having to wait years to be competitive.
Team 1: Dynasty/Contract Team: 12 Team, PPR, QB,1 RB, 2WR, 2 Flex WR/RB, TE (Premium TE scoring: 1.25X receiving yards points)
QB – J. Hurts, A Richardson
RB – Javonte Williams, K. Walker III, J. Ford, K. Miller, J.K. Dobbins,
WR – J. Chase, C. Lamb, P. Nakua, K. Allen, T. Burks
TE – D. Waller, C. Okonkwo, L. Thomas, J. Ferguson
2024 rookie/FA picks: 1.12. 2.12, 3.12
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QB - A. Rodgers, L. Jackson
RB - B. Hall, S. Barkley, A. Kamara, E. Mitchell, J. Mason, Z. White, K. Miller (R), T. Spears (R)
WR - T. Hill, D. Adams, C. Watson, M. Brown, R. Rice (R)
TE - D. Waller, G. Kittle, J. Ferguson
QB – J. Hurts, A Richardson
RB – Javonte Williams, K. Walker III, J. Ford, K. Miller, J.K. Dobbins,
WR – J. Chase, C. Lamb, P. Nakua, K. Allen, T. Burks
TE – D. Waller, C. Okonkwo, L. Thomas, J. Ferguson
2024 rookie/FA picks: 1.12. 2.12, 3.12
Team 2: Dynasty Team: 12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex WR/RB/TE (Premium TE scoring: 1.5X receiving yards points)
QB - A. Rodgers, L. Jackson
RB - B. Hall, S. Barkley, A. Kamara, E. Mitchell, J. Mason, Z. White, K. Miller (R), T. Spears (R)
WR - T. Hill, D. Adams, C. Watson, M. Brown, R. Rice (R)
TE - D. Waller, G. Kittle, J. Ferguson
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Re: Russ for future picks
I just hate it being in 2026. So far away.
I'd probably hold and hope that he bounces back to some degree. His contract alone should make it so he continues to be worth a back-end 1st, even if the production isn't what it once was
I'd probably hold and hope that he bounces back to some degree. His contract alone should make it so he continues to be worth a back-end 1st, even if the production isn't what it once was
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Re: Russ for future picks
Man, that’s rough. Can you imagine them being the 1.12 and 2.12 3 years out? Would seem awful.
That said would you rather have a 2024 mid 2nd? That’s about all he is going for right now.
I’m usually all about the buy low, but this time I have my doubts. He looks very not right mentally to me.
That said would you rather have a 2024 mid 2nd? That’s about all he is going for right now.
I’m usually all about the buy low, but this time I have my doubts. He looks very not right mentally to me.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
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Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
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Re: Russ for future picks
I don't think this deal makes any sense. 2026!? Hold and hope Wilson hits early with Peyton and a better offer will come. If not, I doubt this offer is going anywhere in the coming weeks because that manager could care less about that pick any time soon. Always risky for a league to allow 1sts being moved so far out. Hopefully that manager never leaves the league.
Re: Russ for future picks
We’re in year 13 so I’m not worried about it being a future pick. The league is incredibly active (I have 36 trades since March), so future picks are all over the place and aren’t really discounted.
My rebuild philosophy is generally to try and monopolize the draft pick market so I can set the asking price. I’ve committed to a multi year rebuild, but the way it usually plays out is by that point I’m contending and have a ton of picks. That’s what I hope at least haha.
But yeah- I wish I could get something sooner but no one is offering more than a 2nd for him in ‘24 or ‘25
My rebuild philosophy is generally to try and monopolize the draft pick market so I can set the asking price. I’ve committed to a multi year rebuild, but the way it usually plays out is by that point I’m contending and have a ton of picks. That’s what I hope at least haha.
But yeah- I wish I could get something sooner but no one is offering more than a 2nd for him in ‘24 or ‘25
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Cook, AJones, Zeke, Chandler, Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, MHJ, DJM, Worthy, QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins Vea
DE- Bosa, Landry. Greenard Ebukam, Young
LB- Campbell,Speed, Colson, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Cook, AJones, Zeke, Chandler, Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, MHJ, DJM, Worthy, QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins Vea
DE- Bosa, Landry. Greenard Ebukam, Young
LB- Campbell,Speed, Colson, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
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Re: Russ for future picks
That certainly makes the pick more valuable based on what you are saying about the league and good to know the managers are secure. It still seems like you are losing value but I understand the concern around Wilson. I still think you hold, hope he hits early and shop again. Seems like the 2026 1st will still be an option come week 3 or 4?mzkp54 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:35 am We’re in year 13 so I’m not worried about it being a future pick. The league is incredibly active (I have 36 trades since March), so future picks are all over the place and aren’t really discounted.
My rebuild philosophy is generally to try and monopolize the draft pick market so I can set the asking price. I’ve committed to a multi year rebuild, but the way it usually plays out is by that point I’m contending and have a ton of picks. That’s what I hope at least haha.
But yeah- I wish I could get something sooner but no one is offering more than a 2nd for him in ‘24 or ‘25
Re: Russ for future picks
The pick doesn't make much sense seeing how far out the pick is. I'd pass. Hopefully he rebounds and his value goes up for you.
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Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, , J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, M Evans, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson,
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean
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2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
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Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, , J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, M Evans, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson,
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
Re: Russ for future picks
I mean I have added 4 1sts and 3 2nds in ‘24 and 4 1sts and 2 2nds in ‘25 already. Another rebuilder already has 4 ‘24 1sts and we have our few “never trading picks folks”, so I’m running out of people to trade me picks before ‘26 haha. I think I’ll be competitive before then with all the draft capital I’ve added- just trying to figure out how to get the most value for Russ when no one wants him.
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Cook, AJones, Zeke, Chandler, Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, MHJ, DJM, Worthy, QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins Vea
DE- Bosa, Landry. Greenard Ebukam, Young
LB- Campbell,Speed, Colson, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Cook, AJones, Zeke, Chandler, Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, MHJ, DJM, Worthy, QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins Vea
DE- Bosa, Landry. Greenard Ebukam, Young
LB- Campbell,Speed, Colson, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
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Re: Russ for future picks
Yeah it sounds like you're set up well for the future. If getting Russ's points off of your roster would help you secure the 1.01 next year, that might be an added incentive.mzkp54 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:56 amI mean I have added 4 1sts and 3 2nds in ‘24 and 4 1sts and 2 2nds in ‘25 already. Another rebuilder already has 4 ‘24 1sts and we have our few “never trading picks folks”, so I’m running out of people to trade me picks before ‘26 haha. I think I’ll be competitive before then with all the draft capital I’ve added- just trying to figure out how to get the most value for Russ when no one wants him.
I get your logic. It's just hard for a pick 3 years out to move the needle.
Re: Russ for future picks
Ended up passing on the future picks- going to try and shop him a bit more. Would you take a single late '24 1st for him if I could get it?
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Cook, AJones, Zeke, Chandler, Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, MHJ, DJM, Worthy, QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins Vea
DE- Bosa, Landry. Greenard Ebukam, Young
LB- Campbell,Speed, Colson, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Cook, AJones, Zeke, Chandler, Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, MHJ, DJM, Worthy, QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins Vea
DE- Bosa, Landry. Greenard Ebukam, Young
LB- Campbell,Speed, Colson, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
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Re: Russ for future picks
for sure.
i would have taken the '26 1st and 2nd though: i think russ will bounce back some, but not spectacularly enough to give you a much better return, and with all the picks you already have, kicking this specific can down the road is not a big deal. not to mention the chances of that 1st turning out to be very early.
Re: Russ for future picks
He wanted me to add a bunch of little stuff to get the 1 and 2. I still may send it back straight up for them, but trying to get a sooner pick firstkiller_of_giants wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:40 amfor sure.
i would have taken the '26 1st and 2nd though: i think russ will bounce back some, but not spectacularly enough to give you a much better return, and with all the picks you already have, kicking this specific can down the road is not a big deal. not to mention the chances of that 1st turning out to be very early.
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Cook, AJones, Zeke, Chandler, Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, MHJ, DJM, Worthy, QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins Vea
DE- Bosa, Landry. Greenard Ebukam, Young
LB- Campbell,Speed, Colson, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB- Cook, AJones, Zeke, Chandler, Dowdle, Mitchell
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, MHJ, DJM, Worthy, QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
PK/CB-
DT- Wilkins Vea
DE- Bosa, Landry. Greenard Ebukam, Young
LB- Campbell,Speed, Colson, Mcfadden, Dodson
S-
3 '25 1sts, 4 '26 1sts
Re: Russ for future picks
Russ will bounce back a bit but not to let him “cook”. He will be more of a sous chef at this point.mzkp54 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2023 5:52 pmHe wanted me to add a bunch of little stuff to get the 1 and 2. I still may send it back straight up for them, but trying to get a sooner pick firstkiller_of_giants wrote: ↑Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:40 amfor sure.
i would have taken the '26 1st and 2nd though: i think russ will bounce back some, but not spectacularly enough to give you a much better return, and with all the picks you already have, kicking this specific can down the road is not a big deal. not to mention the chances of that 1st turning out to be very early.
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
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2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
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1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn
Picks
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2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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