Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

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Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

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Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby Viking386 » Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:02 pm

Usually any trade for Mahomes is an instant decline but this offer has me on edge here.

So its 12 Team SF my starting line up is

QB- Mahomes
RB- Cook
WR- JJ
TE- Hock
Flex- AJB
Flex- Garret Wilson
Flex- Hopkins
Flex- Lockett
Flex- MT
QB- Baker

Different roster settings but its an okay team. Im clearly hurting at QB 2 and only have Zach Wilson and Huntly as my others. This league has crazy QB bonuses. Mahomes scored 684 points in this league compared to typical 511 in my other leagues. What do you guys think?
Main Home League
12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex

QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold, Drake Maye, Bo Nix and Penix.
RB: Bucky Irving, Will Shipley, Deuce Vaughn, CPatt, Justice Hill and McBride
WR: Justin Jefferson, ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Malik Nabers, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, DeMario Douglas, Calvin Austin, DJ Chark,
TE: McBride, Dulcich, Woods, Hudson and Schoonmaker

Draft Picks
-3 25 1sts, 2 25 2nd, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th

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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:14 pm

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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:21 pm

I think the value on paper is pretty solid but as with most Watson deals, this only works in your lineup if he gets back to being elite. That is up in the air and a big if for me. Value...yes but overall, I would pass. This is also acquiring Fields on last year's ceiling.

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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby TheTroll » Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:42 pm

In SF… I would take Watson and Fields it’s a double down
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby wickerkat1212 » Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:53 pm

Very risky but I have seen Watson playing really well in camp, and I like Fields a lot in FANTASY, the key here is longevity. I took the Watson/Fields side, but you better start looking for a third and fourth QB soon.
D3:
QB—Allen, Pickett RB—Kamara, Jacobs, ZWhite, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Tillman, Marshall, Jefferson, Robinson, Tucker TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington, Kraft PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC, Hall RB—Bijan, Kamara, Conner, BENSON (R), Gainwell, Gainwell, Foreman, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin WR—Jefferson, Hill, Adams, Allen, POLK (R), CORLEY (R), COWING (R), Tillman, Woods TE—Kelce, Kmet, TJOHNSON (R), Conklin PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, RATTLER (R) RB—Bijan, Kamara, Allgeier, Mostert, BRob, ESTIME (R) WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, MBrown, Lockett, Myers, COWING (R), MWASHINGTON (R) TE—Kmet, Kraft, SANDERS (R), Conklin, Hurst PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: MAYE (R), Goff, Cousins, PENIX (R), Wentz, White; RB: Bijan, BRob, ZWhite, Allgeier, McLaughlin WR: HARRISON (R), DJM, Higgins, JSN, BTHOMAS (R), Downs, RMoore, Atwell, SMoore, DPJ, Devante TE: Ferguson, Kraft, Trautman, Tremble

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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:54 pm

Mahomes. You are needing a rebuild and I’d rather build around Mahomes than Watson and Fields. By the time you are contending again who knows what the Fields and Watson situation is.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr

11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)

Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White

Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez

Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker

24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5

Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE

Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning

JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker

Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,

Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins


24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5

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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:21 pm

I'm taking Mahomes. Fields needs drastic improvement this year or he's not likely a long term starter. Watson looked bad last year. Sure, you COULD have 2 QB1's for a long time with this, but Mahomes is an all time great just entering a QB's traditional prime.

"Watson playing well in camp' isn't something that sways it at all for me. It's OTA's. Meaningless stuff at this point. They aren't in pads yet.
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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:26 am

im taking the pair, if this isnt enough for mahomes nothing is. this is a dream bail out of searching to fill qb the next several years while being too good to get a qb in draft and too thin to win it all
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby Viking386 » Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:36 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:26 am im taking the pair, if this isnt enough for mahomes nothing is. this is a dream bail out of searching to fill qb the next several years while being too good to get a qb in draft and too thin to win it all
This is where I’m stuck, I get people saying I’m in a rebuild but this team was the second highest scoring team last year and got second. Mahomes scores so much it’s hard to tank plus with the JJ, AJB, Wilson and Hock. I’ve trade trading one of those for a QB but with the Qb bonuses I couldn’t even land a JJ for Lamar. QBs are always hard to obtain but in this format they are near impossible.
Main Home League
12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex

QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold, Drake Maye, Bo Nix and Penix.
RB: Bucky Irving, Will Shipley, Deuce Vaughn, CPatt, Justice Hill and McBride
WR: Justin Jefferson, ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Malik Nabers, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, DeMario Douglas, Calvin Austin, DJ Chark,
TE: McBride, Dulcich, Woods, Hudson and Schoonmaker

Draft Picks
-3 25 1sts, 2 25 2nd, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th

2022 Champions in full rebuild. Looking to contend again in 2025.

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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:54 am

Viking386 wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:36 am
BigBawseRoss wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:26 am im taking the pair, if this isnt enough for mahomes nothing is. this is a dream bail out of searching to fill qb the next several years while being too good to get a qb in draft and too thin to win it all
This is where I’m stuck, I get people saying I’m in a rebuild but this team was the second highest scoring team last year and got second. Mahomes scores so much it’s hard to tank plus with the JJ, AJB, Wilson and Hock. I’ve trade trading one of those for a QB but with the Qb bonuses I couldn’t even land a JJ for Lamar. QBs are always hard to obtain but in this format they are near impossible.
yup you will just pick late and have to have everything go just right to win it all, i think this sets you up a lot better to still compete but if you fall short you are filling out your flex spots and replacing rbs with your rookie picks in 24,25, etc... not trying to figure out a way year after year to trade up into qb range
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby Mtt33 » Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:59 am

Personally this comes down to how the league values qbs. Value on paper this is easily the pair for me, you’re trading startup 1.01 for 2 startup 1sts, but I’m so low on fields I would have to know I could flip him for at least close to value.

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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby Viking386 » Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:51 am

Mtt33 wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:59 am Personally this comes down to how the league values qbs. Value on paper this is easily the pair for me, you’re trading startup 1.01 for 2 startup 1sts, but I’m so low on fields I would have to know I could flip him for at least close to value.
As I stated earlier due to the QB bonuses the QB are impossible to get. I floated the idea of JJ for Lamar and was quickly shot down and I’m not ever sure I’d do that. It’s extremely difficult to buy in this league.
Main Home League
12 Team 1 QB PPR
-Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE and 2 Flex

QB: Anthony Richardson, Sam Darnold, Drake Maye, Bo Nix and Penix.
RB: Bucky Irving, Will Shipley, Deuce Vaughn, CPatt, Justice Hill and McBride
WR: Justin Jefferson, ARSB, Olave, Nico Collins, Malik Nabers, Tyquan Thornton, Marvin Mims, DeMario Douglas, Calvin Austin, DJ Chark,
TE: McBride, Dulcich, Woods, Hudson and Schoonmaker

Draft Picks
-3 25 1sts, 2 25 2nd, 3 25 3rds and 3 25 4ths
-2 26 1sts, 2 26 2nds, 1 26 3rd, and1 26 4th

2022 Champions in full rebuild. Looking to contend again in 2025.

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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby nyterp » Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:55 am

I took the pair. If either one scares you, there has to be a truther in your league somewhere that you can flip one or both of them for good value, particularly since you said earlier QBs are impossible to acquire.
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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby TheTroll » Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:56 pm

nyterp wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:55 am I took the pair. If either one scares you, there has to be a truther in your league somewhere that you can flip one or both of them for good value, particularly since you said earlier QBs are impossible to acquire.
I know there are opposing opinions but I think you did the right thing
Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Mitchell, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Douglas, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 3.02, 3.09
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Mahomes for Deshaun Watson and Justin Fields?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:44 pm

TheTroll wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:56 pm
nyterp wrote: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:55 am I took the pair. If either one scares you, there has to be a truther in your league somewhere that you can flip one or both of them for good value, particularly since you said earlier QBs are impossible to acquire.
I know there are opposing opinions but I think you did the right thing
hes not the guy making the trade lol
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp


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