Somewhat early 2024 Draft thread

[FantasyFreak]

super early and with little research, these are names i've jotted down that i don't see in your post:
RB: Raheim Sanders, Braelon Edwards, Donovan Edwards
WR: Xavier Worthy

Thanks!

no prob, please share if you turn up anything noteworthy for or against them

It's Allen, not Edwards. The next guy on his list has the last name Edwards, and Braelon Edwards was a former player. Easy mistake to make. Braelon Allen is a big, bruising back with decent burst, but doesn't have great long speed. Probably not going to catch too many passes. I don't think he's as talented as a few recent Wisky backs.

[YouMightDieTryin]

Many of the players in the 2024 class were High School Seniors during Covid. Since so many of the schools weren't playing much or at all, the scouting grades at 247 are incomplete. It's apparently making things difficult for scouting departments that are digging into this class.

One of the pods with 2024 Superflex Mocks said this could give teams with superior scouting departments an edge. We could get some good values/sleepers after the 1st in dynasty drafts.

I've heard that one before...

The next few years are going to be very interesting from a scouting standpoint.

[Jigga94]

Many of the players in the 2024 class were High School Seniors during Covid. Since so many of the schools weren't playing much or at all, the scouting grades at 247 are incomplete. It's apparently making things difficult for scouting departments that are digging into this class.

One of the pods with 2024 Superflex Mocks said this could give teams with superior scouting departments an edge. We could get some good values/sleepers after the 1st in dynasty drafts.

But these guys will have 3 years of actual college play, isn't that more important than what they did as HS seniors? I could see where it's more difficult to recruit them, but that would have been a 2021 issue?

The 2024 class will have some guys who started college in 2019 or 2020 as well, but didn't get to see real action until after covid in 2021. That can be a factor also.

[Cameron Giles]

Many of the players in the 2024 class were High School Seniors during Covid. Since so many of the schools weren't playing much or at all, the scouting grades at 247 are incomplete. It's apparently making things difficult for scouting departments that are digging into this class.

One of the pods with 2024 Superflex Mocks said this could give teams with superior scouting departments an edge. We could get some good values/sleepers after the 1st in dynasty drafts.

But these guys will have 3 years of actual college play, isn't that more important than what they did as HS seniors? I could see where it's more difficult to recruit them, but that would have been a 2021 issue?

The 2024 class will have some guys who started college in 2019 or 2020 as well, but didn't get to see real action until after covid in 2021. That can be a factor also.

Yeah, after 3-4 years of college production and usage it doesn't matter what the HS tape was. But, I do get what he's saying. Theoretically, some good HS players were not recruited as such, and ended up off the radar somewhere else.

Though, realistically that happens all the time in college anyway. This time a year ago, Jahmyr Gibbs was leaving Georgia Tech and not many people had heard of Dalton Kincaid.

[Pullo Vision]

Many of the players in the 2024 class were High School Seniors during Covid. Since so many of the schools weren't playing much or at all, the scouting grades at 247 are incomplete. It's apparently making things difficult for scouting departments that are digging into this class.

One of the pods with 2024 Superflex Mocks said this could give teams with superior scouting departments an edge. We could get some good values/sleepers after the 1st in dynasty drafts.

But these guys will have 3 years of actual college play, isn't that more important than what they did as HS seniors? I could see where it's more difficult to recruit them, but that would have been a 2021 issue?

The 2024 class will have some guys who started college in 2019 or 2020 as well, but didn't get to see real action until after covid in 2021. That can be a factor also.

Totally see your point about the importance of college performance. I could see being interested in their HS measurements and eval, to get a sense of the player's progression and development. Would be useful to know if they addressed an area of improvement or any changes they made. Cody Mauch changed alot leading up to the 2023 NFL draft. From how the pod people were talking, some scouts use the service's rankings and player profiles as a starting point for scouting a class.

[gogobradyarm]

2024 1st are never going to be cheaper. I already have 5! Looking forward to this college season!

[Jigga94]

Many of the players in the 2024 class were High School Seniors during Covid. Since so many of the schools weren't playing much or at all, the scouting grades at 247 are incomplete. It's apparently making things difficult for scouting departments that are digging into this class.

One of the pods with 2024 Superflex Mocks said this could give teams with superior scouting departments an edge. We could get some good values/sleepers after the 1st in dynasty drafts.

But these guys will have 3 years of actual college play, isn't that more important than what they did as HS seniors? I could see where it's more difficult to recruit them, but that would have been a 2021 issue?

The 2024 class will have some guys who started college in 2019 or 2020 as well, but didn't get to see real action until after covid in 2021. That can be a factor also.

Yeah, after 3-4 years of college production and usage it doesn't matter what the HS tape was. But, I do get what he's saying. Theoretically, some good HS players were not recruited as such, and ended up off the radar somewhere else.

Though, realistically that happens all the time in college anyway. This time a year ago, Jahmyr Gibbs was leaving Georgia Tech and not many people had heard of Dalton Kincaid.

Right. I thought we were all looking forward to seeing True Juniors come out after 3 uninterrupted seasons finally lol. It makes sense that a player could fall through the cracks from missing his HS SR year, but I'd expect them to dominate even more at a smaller college and transferring has never been easier.

[spotxc]

My flag plant. 2024 will be better than 2023. When you look already, theres more guys that have shown they can produce and many others on the brink of breaking out. 2023 has been a let down compared to the hype it got. 2024 looks like it will be top heavy and deeper

[Cameron Giles]

My flag plant. 2024 will be better than 2023. When you look already, theres more guys that have shown they can produce and many others on the brink of breaking out. 2023 has been a let down compared to the hype it got. 2024 looks like it will be top heavy and deeper

That's the thing, we don't actually know that. We know nothing about their production/analytics profile, their combine measurements, no injuries have happened, etc. All we know is there are college players who've had some good games.

The only thing that is a guarantee is the unicorn potential with Marvin Harrison Jr., Caleb Williams, and Brock Bowers as prizes.

[spotxc]

I was looking at the draft eligible rb and wrs for 2024 and most of them had some really nice years last year. Thats production to me. Last year you had guys like zach evans, tank bigsby at the top and they did not produce such great years. They were hoping they would, these guys have already shown they can put up the numbers. I mean people were so high on boutte and nabers has already put up better numbers than boutte ever did. You have the obvious 2 stud OSU wrs, the michigan rbs, Raheim Sanders, Trevyeon Henderson, Braelon Allen, Rome Udonze, Xavier Worthy, Troy Franklin.. idk I just see more probable potential and thats not even factoring guys who will rise throughout the year.

Qbs are also supposed to be great. 2023 has the better TE class I would agree, but who cares about TEs lol

[Cameron Giles]

I was looking at the draft eligible rb and wrs for 2024 and most of them had some really nice years last year. Thats production to me. Last year you had guys like zach evans, tank bigsby at the top and they did not produce such great years. They were hoping they would, these guys have already shown they can put up the numbers. I mean people were so high on boutte and nabers has already put up better numbers than boutte ever did. You have the obvious 2 stud OSU wrs, the michigan rbs, Raheim Sanders, Trevyeon Henderson, Braelon Allen, Rome Udonze, Xavier Worthy, Troy Franklin.. idk I just see more probable potential and thats not even factoring guys who will rise throughout the year.

Qbs are also supposed to be great. 2023 has the better TE class I would agree, but who cares about TEs lol

A year ago at this exact time:

- Kayshon Boutte was a Biletnikoff frontrunner
- Jordan Addison was coming off a Biletnikoff season
- Zach Evans was one of the most talked about RBs in the country
- Sean Tucker was considered a Top-64 pick
- Blake Corum was expected to breakout and declare early
- Tank Bigsby was highly regarded

I can keep going. What you're describing is not anything different. We know there are players who've had good games for this class and are on the radar for 2024, but:

1. We haven't actually evaluated them thoroughly.
2. We know little to nothing about their production profiles to an advanced point.
3. We haven't seen them perform at the combine.

I'm not even sure how you can say the potential is "more probable". Nothing has happened yet and there are a ton of questions about players that haven't been answered.

[JoeJoe88]

My flag plant. 2024 will be better than 2023. When you look already, theres more guys that have shown they can produce and many others on the brink of breaking out. 2023 has been a let down compared to the hype it got. 2024 looks like it will be top heavy and deeper

Everyone will be planting this flag soon lol. It literally happens every year.

[lukkynumber13]

I was looking at the draft eligible rb and wrs for 2024 and most of them had some really nice years last year. Thats production to me. Last year you had guys like zach evans, tank bigsby at the top and they did not produce such great years. They were hoping they would, these guys have already shown they can put up the numbers. I mean people were so high on boutte and nabers has already put up better numbers than boutte ever did. You have the obvious 2 stud OSU wrs, the michigan rbs, Raheim Sanders, Trevyeon Henderson, Braelon Allen, Rome Udonze, Xavier Worthy, Troy Franklin.. idk I just see more probable potential and thats not even factoring guys who will rise throughout the year.

Qbs are also supposed to be great. 2023 has the better TE class I would agree, but who cares about TEs lol

A year ago at this exact time:

- Kayshon Boutte was a Biletnikoff frontrunner
- Jordan Addison was coming off a Biletnikoff season
- Zach Evans was one of the most talked about RBs in the country
- Sean Tucker was considered a Top-64 pick
- Blake Corum was expected to breakout and declare early
- Tank Bigsby was highly regarded

I can keep going. What you're describing is not anything different. We know there are players who've had good games for this class and are on the radar for 2024, but:

1. We haven't actually evaluated them thoroughly.
2. We know little to nothing about their production profiles to an advanced point.
3. We haven't seen them perform at the combine.

I'm not even sure how you can say the potential is "more probable". Nothing has happened yet and there are a ton of questions about players that haven't been answered.

Very well-said

[spotxc]

Just my thoughts. Talked about and highly regarded aren’t the same as actually showing you can put up the season. Also I’m not factoring in combine, advanced metrics, etc. I’m talking about showing you can dominate in college Addison and tucker imo were the only ones who showed they could be dominant in that list in their sophomore season. 2023 was the hype golden child. If everybody was right, there would be no winners. Sometimes the masses are more wrong than right. Probably most of the time.

I do appreciate your thoughts though, just my point of view. I usually get bleep for my takes. IE Saying Calvin Ridley was really good , saying cmc was better than mixon, and saying Kenneth Walker was going to be really food( this one got some hurdles recently)

[FantasyFreak]

Just my thoughts. Talked about and highly regarded aren’t the same as actually showing you can put up the season. Also I’m not factoring in combine, advanced metrics, etc. I’m talking about showing you can dominate in college Addison and tucker imo were the only ones who showed they could be dominant in that list in their sophomore season. 2023 was the hype golden child. If everybody was right, there would be no winners. Sometimes the masses are more wrong than right. Probably most of the time.

I do appreciate your thoughts though, just my point of view. I usually get bleep for my takes. IE Saying Calvin Ridley was really good , saying cmc was better than mixon, and saying Kenneth Walker was going to be really food( this one got some hurdles recently)

All this Walker talk is making me hungry.