George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:20 am

Is Claypool a buy low before Pickett takes over or will he soon be phased out by Pickens? One of those two have to be a buy low. They are both a little(or a lot) depressed right now.
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby mild » Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:11 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:37 am I've been seeing All-22 clips floating around, and all I'll say is that you shouldn't sell Pickens, or any of the Steelers offense. Trubisky is leaving a lot of food on the plate. Pickens is open, hell a bunch of players are.

Even someone like Diontae Johnson, who's averaging 11 targets per game, is being propped up purely by volume. 5.1 Y/Target.

I don't know how much Pickett improves it, but he can't be worse than 6th year QB who can't get past his 1st read.
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I agree that if you're a Diontae, Muth, or Pickens owner - you're definitely holding, because it can't get much worse. At least Pickett might come in and hit catchers on time and accurately (his strength coming out of college, allegedly).

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If you want one of those passers - I would definitely suggest showing their owners as many eyeball-bleeding plays of Mitch throwing the ball as possible. We've entered a great potential buy-low window.

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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby jcc6fd » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:52 am

Surpised no one has posted about the catch last night:
https://sports.yahoo.com/steelers-rooki ... 20491.html

Just something to keep the hype train going. Tribusky sucks but Pickens may yet be a top talent. Also 7 targets on the night so he's clearly being relied on.
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby murphysxm » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:00 am

That catch was ridiculous
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby dynastyninja » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:26 am

I'll pile on here, ridiculous grab. Really the closest thing we've seen to OBJ's. Doesn't necessarily change his rankings much for me, but still unbelievable.

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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:11 am

88% route participation, 76% offensive snaps, 7 targets. Seems to be trending the right way, and the catch is just another flash of the type of talent he is.

The offense looks bad though. Diontae Johnson has been the only trustworthy part as the primary read on most plays. Everyone else is underachieving (and you can argue Diontae is underachieving too).

I'm not sure I buy that Tomlin is going to keep Pickett on the sidelines all season. Granted, there are other reasons outside of the QB that the offense is bad, but Pickett can't be much worse than Trubisky (5.5 Y/A, 2 touchdowns in 3 games).

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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:40 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:11 am 88% route participation, 76% offensive snaps, 7 targets. Seems to be trending the right way, and the catch is just another flash of the type of talent he is.

The offense looks bad though. Diontae Johnson has been the only trustworthy part as the primary read on most plays. Everyone else is underachieving (and you can argue Diontae is underachieving too).

I'm not sure I buy that Tomlin is going to keep Pickett on the sidelines all season. Granted, there are other reasons outside of the QB that the offense is bad, but Pickett can't be much worse than Trubisky (5.5 Y/A, 2 touchdowns in 3 games).
Yeah. I think Pickens will get targeted by Pickett more, as they worked together quite a bit in camp. Pickens was going to be a year 2 guy for me, I am just glad he's showing me the talent I thought he had. Not reliable in lineups right now, but that will come down the line.
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:43 am

I'm not high on Pickett, but he can't be worse than Trubisky. He looks so scared out there

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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:56 am

Looks like they're starting to take the leash off Pickens. 6/102 yesterday.

Target Share:

Week 1: 8.1%
Week 2: 9.1%
Week 3: 21.9%
Week 4: 32.0%

Also ran him on less go routes this week. Looks like him and Pickett have promising upside together initially.

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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby steelman » Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:25 am

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:20 am Is Claypool a buy low before Pickett takes over or will he soon be phased out by Pickens? One of those two have to be a buy low. They are both a little(or a lot) depressed right now.
Claypool just isn't very good

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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby gogobradyarm » Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:00 am

spider321 wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:13 pm
gogobradyarm wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:49 pm I had offered a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Pickens in the offseason. I'm thrilled the owner declined. I don't see Pickens path to relevance until at best, 2023.
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby spider321 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:05 am

gogobradyarm wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:00 am
spider321 wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:13 pm
gogobradyarm wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:49 pm I had offered a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Pickens in the offseason. I'm thrilled the owner declined. I don't see Pickens path to relevance until at best, 2023.
Week 1 victory laps are always so adorable. :thumbup:
Hey where’d you go! Hiding under a rock somewhere?
Wait. Did you really just come back for more right after Pickens had over 100 yards receiving, and may have shown he is the favorite target of the team's new starting QB?! SERIOUSLY?!?! You sure showed me! :clap:
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:09 am

spider321 wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:05 am
gogobradyarm wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:00 am
spider321 wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:13 pm

Week 1 victory laps are always so adorable. :thumbup:
Hey where’d you go! Hiding under a rock somewhere?
Wait. Did you REALLY just come back for more right after Pickens had over 100 yards receiving, and may well be the number 1 target for their new starting QB?! Seriously?!?! :lol:
:lol: What's going on??!! :lol: :lol: This is too funny.
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby spider321 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:13 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:09 am
spider321 wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:05 am
gogobradyarm wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:00 am

Hey where’d you go! Hiding under a rock somewhere?
Wait. Did you REALLY just come back for more right after Pickens had over 100 yards receiving, and may well be the number 1 target for their new starting QB?! Seriously?!?! :lol:
:lol: What's going on??!! :lol: :lol: This is too funny.
I honestly don't even know what's happening here. This guy may offer his trophy wife and twin swimsuit model daughters to me just to show me who's boss. :wtf:
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Re: George Pickens, where did we go wrong?

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:18 am

Think he forgot what side of the argument he was on


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