End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby Space Cowboy » Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:45 pm

Prison_Mike wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:44 am Why Smith-Marsette over KJ Osborn?
He caught my eye at the end of last year, had a long slender build ala Jefferson and made some nice plays downfield.

KJ is nice and all but we get in a bad habit of continuing to traject a players #'s up and up.........KJ to me is what he is, an alright #3. I feel like if something were to happen Smith-Marsette would step in and KJ would stay 3rd.

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Postby Jfever » Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:41 pm

Julius Chestnut

If you haven’t heard of him, check him out. Admittedly a Long shot UDFA behind Henry. Has something that caught my attention.
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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby MFundercover » Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:43 am

Parris Campbell?

I get why his stock has plummeted, but in some ways it seems unfair. He still seems to have the same role waiting for him to come back to and has flashed upside when healthy.

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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby Pullo Vision » Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:53 pm

No interest in Campbell anymore. I'm done with his injury issues. I'd only gamble if rosters are deep enough.

I'm trying to mine the NYG for value, specifically WRs. Everyone talks about Golladay and Toney, and Shepard is injured, but Slayton is crazy cheap, is the best speed/downfield guy and is entering his 4th year- trade rumors this offseason, new contract in FA next year.
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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby Hottoddies » Tue Aug 02, 2022 2:57 pm

ericanadian wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:39 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:12 am A couple of Vikings players
Smith-Marsette (I like him over KJ)
Ty Chandler (Mattison is set hit UFA and Cook has potential legal issues + constant workload)
I like Nwangwu in place of Chandler, but agree on Smith-Marsette.
I was listening to an interview with Kirk Cousins where he was taking about the key players that the Vikings were depending on this year. When he was speaking to the strength of the depth for the team, KJ Osborn was the first name he listed, whereas, Nwangwu, Chandler, and Smith-Marsette were not even mentioned.
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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby ericanadian » Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:14 pm

Hottoddies wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 2:57 pm
ericanadian wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:39 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:12 am A couple of Vikings players
Smith-Marsette (I like him over KJ)
Ty Chandler (Mattison is set hit UFA and Cook has potential legal issues + constant workload)
I like Nwangwu in place of Chandler, but agree on Smith-Marsette.
I was listening to an interview with Kirk Cousins where he was taking about the key players that the Vikings were depending on this year. When he was speaking to the strength of the depth for the team, KJ Osborn was the first name he listed, whereas, Nwangwu, Chandler, and Smith-Marsette were not even mentioned.
There’s politics involved when a quarterback answers questions like that, but both Nwangwu and Smith-Marsette are pretty raw, so could be another year off before getting regular work. Injuries can accelerate that process quite a bit and I’d rather be a year early than a year late.
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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby MFundercover » Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:37 pm

I buy the ISM take. The Vikings have a history of developing low rated WR prospects, and he's definitely athletic and flashed some potential breaking ankles. You could do worse with your deep stashes.

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Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:42 am

ericanadian wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:39 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:32 pm
ericanadian wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:50 pm I like Bryan Edwards. Atlanta has loaded up on size, and with Pitts and London ahead of him, he should get some favorable matchups and has enough talent to take advantage. He also has some experience with Mariota, which can’t hurt.
I don't want to burst your bubble, but as a Raiders fan, I can tell you he's not very good. He gets of the LOS like a TE. He can't separate. I was surprised the Raiders managed to get a 5th in the deal, TBH. He can get open on crossers in zone, but he just doesn't get away from man coverage. He isn't a very good route runner, and he just doesn't have anything in his bag to get open. He is a jump ball guy, back shoulder guy, basically.
I get the knocks as I’m also a Raiders fan. He doesn’t separate well, but I think he can improve his route running. He missed his rookie training camp and showed a lot of improvement going into year two and then Gruden got fired, Ruggs and Waller got hurt and he was thrust into the role of primary target (though that ended up being carried by Renfrow.) He could flame out, but if he can continue to build off of last year (dude had 9.7 yards per target (15th among qualifiers) so its not like he showed nothing), I think there’s some upside there.
If we're talking falcons WRs that don't separate as end of bench stashes, give me Auden Tate.
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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:38 pm

I added Josiah deguera in a tep league. Just a long shot but some targets available and I believe tonyan is still dinged up. He has decent draft capital and te takes time
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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:56 pm

Randall Cobb. Basically free, and there’s a decent chance he’s a high floor top 30 WR this year.

If he stays healthy I don’t think it’d be crazy for him to end up with anywhere from 60-70 catches, 800+ yards, and - with Rodgers at QB - any Packers pass catcher has a shot at a good TD number.

There’s also the obvious chance he gets passed by Watkins, 1-2 rookies, etc and he has a line of 30-350-1. But again, he’s BASICALLY free.
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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby MucBuc » Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:01 am

Jordan Mason is making some noise at 49ers camp, supposedly at times looking like the best back in the passing game and also running hard (no wonder, as last year at Georgia Tech he was breaking tackles on 44% of his runs). So if you can stomach rostering a part of the 49ers backfield, I guess he's worth a look.
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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby Pullo Vision » Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:37 am

I've been stashing various players mentioned in waivers, but they've been slowly getting picked up across my leagues.

Reggie Roberson (Tenn) and Johnny Johnson (Houston) are starting to get picked up in my deeper leagues. Both have ascendable WR depth charts.
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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby Bronco Billy » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:02 am

MucBuc wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:01 am Jordan Mason is making some noise at 49ers camp, supposedly at times looking like the best back in the passing game and also running hard (no wonder, as last year at Georgia Tech he was breaking tackles on 44% of his runs). So if you can stomach rostering a part of the 49ers backfield, I guess he's worth a look.
I really like him as a deep sleeper. Good size, ideal one cut system player. He’s decisive and has good vision, great balance, runs with good pad level and lean, and his game speed is clearly faster than his timed 40. He can run that outside zone stretch.

He is limited a little by his lack of long speed but he understands how to head downhill after he gets through the seam and it takes a little to run him down. Looks to me like the right guy in the right system and I could absolutely see him pushing Sermon off the roster. This is a nice call.

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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby Prison_Mike » Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:48 am

I’ve heard McFarland is having a good camp

With the volume Najee see’s and the therefore increased likelihood of injury, I’m heavily targeting whoever the #2 is in that backfield. Especially if they have receiving ability, as it looks like dump offs are about as far as a Pittsburgh QB is going to be able to accurately throw the football this year
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Re: End of bench stashes/sleepers both rookies, up and comers and vets

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:38 am

Anyone know anything about the third WR that got drafted by the Packers, Toure?? In a 16 team league with SUPER deep rosters, I grabbed him and stashed him on taxi squad :confused:
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