Deshaun Watson startup value
Deshaun Watson startup value
What is the earliest people would take deshaun Watson in a startup superflex dynasty? Have a league where I may end up missing on qb for the first couple of rounds and debating taking the shot on him at some point if my team is shaping up more young and built for next year. Curious how early people think is smart to take him at this point with so much uncertainty stemming from everything popping up over the last week
12 team Superflex, 1/2 point PPR, 1 point TEP, Start 11 spots
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft
QB: D Watson, J hurts., T. Lance, S. howell
RB: Bijan, B Hall, J. Gibbs, A kamara, J. Ford, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell
WR: J. Chase, G. wilson, C. Watson, J. Dotson, , R. shaheed, C. austin, T. Scott, T. Tucker
TE: P. Freurmuth, J. Johnson, C. otton, T. Kraft
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yellowdart2448
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Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
Just in the past week his value has taken a big hit. Personally not worth the headache until after the first 12 or so QBs are gone. But if he’s sitting there with say Fields/Wilson/Tua then I’d probably gamble on Watson and pray.
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Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
I would not have him on any of my teams personally but I'm sure you can find value in the 5th - 8th rounds in SF depending on leaguemates views if he is still there and you want to roster him.
Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
depends on number of teams.
I'd be willing probably around somewhere in round 4 of a 12 teamer. Maybe a bit earlier, really depends on the build and players.
I'd be willing probably around somewhere in round 4 of a 12 teamer. Maybe a bit earlier, really depends on the build and players.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F
Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0004&O=01
Team #5 4th
https://www45.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =07&F=0009
Team #6 orphan
https://www46.myfantasyleague.com/2024/ ... =0013&O=07
Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
this is tough. I like him more than guys like TLaw/Fields, but I am also aware of the mighty risk involved if you draft Watson.
I have no idea. I do think that if you draft Watson, you will have to draft one more QB than you planned on drafting, just in case.
I have no idea. I do think that if you draft Watson, you will have to draft one more QB than you planned on drafting, just in case.
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
Squarely on my "do not draft" list.
Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
I would only consider him after my starters were set too much risk in a SF.
16 teamer
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
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The.Big.Spank
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Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
I think in a start up it is crucial to hit in your first five picks. I doubt he would still be there in the 6th and even it he was, I still might try to wait another round or two depending on how the draft is shaking out. Sometimes QB's fly off the board, other times you can get a legit starter in the second half of the first ten rounds. (The former occurs more often than the latter)
Team 1: 16 Team
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
QB's: Fields, Wentz,
RB: D. Harris, D. Montgomery, Kendre M.
WR: Chase, AJ Brown, Aiyuk, Bateman
TE: Waller, J. Woods, Dulich, Mayer
Team 2: 12 Team SF 1ppr, Start 10
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Watson
RB: Hall, Walker, Javonte, Pacheco, K Mitchell, Dobbins
WR: Godwin, JSN, Pittman, Pickens, Toney, DP Jones, S Moore
TE: Andrews, Fant, Likely
(2024) 1.03, 2.03, 3.03
(2025) Top 3 1st, my 1st
Team 3 SF, TEP, Start 11 ppr
QB: AR, Watson, Young, Levis
RB: ETN, Walker, Pierce, Akers, Pacheco, Herbert, Warren, Kelley
WR: G. Wilson, Higgins, Godwin, Kirk, Bateman, Collins, Doubs, Chark, Shaheed,
TE: Schultz, I Smith, Bellinger, Parham, Fant, Likely, Granson,
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Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
Not to offend anyone but some joke advice on this thread. Even if Watson were to miss all of 2022 he should not even make it to the 3rd round. People talking about 6th...that's lunacy and would only happen in a rookie league
12 team SF ppr TEP(0.5) 2 QB 2RB 2 WR 2 Flex 1 TE
QB: Lamar, Dak, Tlaw, Tua
RB: CMC, Swift, Etienne, Jacobs
WR: Lamb, AJB, DJM, Jeudy, MT, Burks, Jamo, Skyy
TE: Andrews, Schultz
Bench/Taxi: Ridley, Foreman, Abram Smith, Pacheco, DPJ, Badie, Ford, Danny Gray, Brevin Jordan, Jelani Woods, Thornton, Calvin Austin, Keontay Ingram
Picks:
5x 2023 1st
4x 2024 1st
QB: Lamar, Dak, Tlaw, Tua
RB: CMC, Swift, Etienne, Jacobs
WR: Lamb, AJB, DJM, Jeudy, MT, Burks, Jamo, Skyy
TE: Andrews, Schultz
Bench/Taxi: Ridley, Foreman, Abram Smith, Pacheco, DPJ, Badie, Ford, Danny Gray, Brevin Jordan, Jelani Woods, Thornton, Calvin Austin, Keontay Ingram
Picks:
5x 2023 1st
4x 2024 1st
Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
Not lunacy, his career arc is continuing to look bleak at best and in trouble in reality. I am, not using a top 3 round pick on a guy with this much uncertaintyCrazyFlame wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:00 am Not to offend anyone but some joke advice on this thread. Even if Watson were to miss all of 2022 he should not even make it to the 3rd round. People talking about 6th...that's lunacy and would only happen in a rookie league
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
That’s fair if you want to fade risk, but only if you’re also not investing in lance/Lawrence/fields or any highly touted rookie qbs in startups. Those guys are filled with uncertainty as well.murphysxm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:47 amNot lunacy, his career arc is continuing to look bleak at best and in trouble in reality. I am, not using a top 3 round pick on a guy with this much uncertaintyCrazyFlame wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:00 am Not to offend anyone but some joke advice on this thread. Even if Watson were to miss all of 2022 he should not even make it to the 3rd round. People talking about 6th...that's lunacy and would only happen in a rookie league
Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
I used to be of the very solid belief that he would have a max 6 game suspension this season. But the way it is going I am feeling like he might never play another snap in the NFL.
Maybe after a lengthy PR campaign and rehab he gets another shot in 2 years. But then you are talking about a guy who hasn't played football in over 3 years.
I am sure he has a fair price but I don't know what it is. I don't want him clogging my roster for 2 years. So it's a no go for me.
Maybe after a lengthy PR campaign and rehab he gets another shot in 2 years. But then you are talking about a guy who hasn't played football in over 3 years.
I am sure he has a fair price but I don't know what it is. I don't want him clogging my roster for 2 years. So it's a no go for me.
10 team dynasty began 2016
Standard scoring (no PPR, all TDs 6pts)
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 Def
2018 2nd
2019 2nd
2020 CHAMP
2021 2nd
2022 *co-champ...yuck
QB: P Mahomes
RB: J Taylor, T Etienne, D Swift, B Robinson Jr, J Mixon, J Gibbs, Z Charbonnet, R Johnson, J Wilson
WR: J Jefferson, J Chase, J Waddle, DK Metcalf, J Addison, T Dell, J Downs, M Williams, K Toney, , C Claypool
TE: K Pitts, G Kittle
K: Stream
Def: SF
2024 picks: 1 (early/mid), 1 ,2 3 (early/mid), 3, 4, 5, 6
Standard scoring (no PPR, all TDs 6pts)
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 Def
2018 2nd
2019 2nd
2020 CHAMP
2021 2nd
2022 *co-champ...yuck
QB: P Mahomes
RB: J Taylor, T Etienne, D Swift, B Robinson Jr, J Mixon, J Gibbs, Z Charbonnet, R Johnson, J Wilson
WR: J Jefferson, J Chase, J Waddle, DK Metcalf, J Addison, T Dell, J Downs, M Williams, K Toney, , C Claypool
TE: K Pitts, G Kittle
K: Stream
Def: SF
2024 picks: 1 (early/mid), 1 ,2 3 (early/mid), 3, 4, 5, 6
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Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
chipped beef and toast (aka bleep on a shingle)??? 
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.PW league - 10 tm Dynasty league-Roster/Keep 28 - Pass:1/20 3pt TD; Run/Rec:1/10 6pt TD; no ppr; no neg pts
st:1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k, 1 d, no flex
QB - TLaw, Tua, JimmyG
RB - Chubb, Javonte, Perine, Jaleel, BRob, Moss, Bigsby, RoJo (Chi), Tucker, C-Rod, Chase, Spiller, Zamir
WR - Addison, Godwin, Nico, Gabe, Zay Jones, Mooney, Hyatt, Tillman
TE - Kincaid, Kraft
PK -Tucker
Def - 49ers
Picks: 2024 - 1-7, add’l 3rd; 2025 - 1-7
E league - 14 team-can keep up to 9 but keeper round moves up 1 each year, no 1st or 2nd round players can be kept; number is parens = next year’s keeper round; * = player was kept for 2023
Pass 1/20, 4pt TD, Run/Rec 1/10, 6pt TD, 1ppr, Fum/Int = -1, other scoring is pretty regular
QB - Jimmy G(*16), Purdy(*9), Stafford(12)
RB - D-Mont, AJ Dillon, Lenny(17), Carter (19), D’Onta(9), P Taylor
WR - JJeff(3), Adams(*4), Godwin(*8), MWill(*5), OBJ(*13), Woods, Hyatt(10), Tillman(18)
TE - PatF(6), Mayer(10)
PK - Moody
Def - TBB
st:1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k, 1 d, no flex
QB - TLaw, Tua, JimmyG
RB - Chubb, Javonte, Perine, Jaleel, BRob, Moss, Bigsby, RoJo (Chi), Tucker, C-Rod, Chase, Spiller, Zamir
WR - Addison, Godwin, Nico, Gabe, Zay Jones, Mooney, Hyatt, Tillman
TE - Kincaid, Kraft
PK -Tucker
Def - 49ers
Picks: 2024 - 1-7, add’l 3rd; 2025 - 1-7
E league - 14 team-can keep up to 9 but keeper round moves up 1 each year, no 1st or 2nd round players can be kept; number is parens = next year’s keeper round; * = player was kept for 2023
Pass 1/20, 4pt TD, Run/Rec 1/10, 6pt TD, 1ppr, Fum/Int = -1, other scoring is pretty regular
QB - Jimmy G(*16), Purdy(*9), Stafford(12)
RB - D-Mont, AJ Dillon, Lenny(17), Carter (19), D’Onta(9), P Taylor
WR - JJeff(3), Adams(*4), Godwin(*8), MWill(*5), OBJ(*13), Woods, Hyatt(10), Tillman(18)
TE - PatF(6), Mayer(10)
PK - Moody
Def - TBB
Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
A. I am not optimistic about Lance or Fields either, but I don't see that as a true comparison of risk. B. We are not concerned about if Watson can perform, it is if he will play. It will also be a long time between NFL snaps IF he has another one. Watson is a unique level of risk.Mtt33 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:59 amThat’s fair if you want to fade risk, but only if you’re also not investing in lance/Lawrence/fields or any highly touted rookie qbs in startups. Those guys are filled with uncertainty as well.murphysxm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:47 amNot lunacy, his career arc is continuing to look bleak at best and in trouble in reality. I am, not using a top 3 round pick on a guy with this much uncertaintyCrazyFlame wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:00 am Not to offend anyone but some joke advice on this thread. Even if Watson were to miss all of 2022 he should not even make it to the 3rd round. People talking about 6th...that's lunacy and would only happen in a rookie league
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
Re: Deshaun Watson startup value
I’m not sure why suck and out of a job risk is different than suspension and out of league risk? If Watson plays again we know what he is.murphysxm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:37 amA. I am not optimistic about Lance or Fields either, but I don't see that as a true comparison of risk. B. We are not concerned about if Watson can perform, it is if he will play. It will also be a long time between NFL snaps IF he has another one. Watson is a unique level of risk.
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