Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

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Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby BradyT » Thu Jun 02, 2022 4:58 pm

36 team league, 3 copies each player and pick

I own the 1.01 twice (1st and 2nd overall)

So obviously I'm gonna take Breece Hall, but cant roster him a 2nd time.
First thought was to just take Kenneth Walker with the 2nd of the 1.01's...then again, taking Walker with the 1st overall pick is kind of a waste of value. So Im trying to trade down into the 1.04/1.05 teritory, hauling in additional picks. So far.. no interest.

Now I'm thinking about turning one of the 1.01's into an elite proven vet, thinking about players like Najee, Pitts, possibly Chase(though i dont see any chances here)

How do you see Breece and Pitts compared to each other?


My notables players:

QB: Lamar
RB: Jonathan Taylor, Javonte, James Robinson, Chuba
WR: Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, AJ Brown, Tee Higgins, K.Toney, T.Marshall
TE: TJ Hockenson, AlbertO
+ stacked IDP squad

Picks:
2x 1.01
2.01, 2.09, 2.10
3.01

Lineup:
1QB
2-4 RB
3-5 WR
1-3 WR
24 roster spots - 1QB,2RB,3WR,1TE,1Flex

QB: Herbert,Minshew
RB: Breece,Walker,Taylor,BRobinson,Allgeier,Spiller
WR:Jefferson,Lamb,DJMoore,QJohnston,Jameson,MMims, T.Marshall,Shakir,Gallup
TE: Andrews,Conklin
DST:DAL
2024 picks: 1.11, 2.10, 4.01, 4.05, 4.07, 4.11

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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby murphysxm » Thu Jun 02, 2022 5:03 pm

Not saying it is the correct answer, but I don't think 1.01 will get it down
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby Stone2987 » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:36 pm

I have Pitts (in 0.5 te prem league) and would not even blink before I rejected that trade.
Team 1
10 team, sf, 0.5 ppr, te prem 1.0 ppr, idp
Start 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 3 flex, 1 sf, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 1 idp flex
QB- Dak, Tua, Cousins, Minshew, Jimmy G
RB- CMC, Taylor, Achane, Zeke, Pierce, Mostert, Chandler, Ford
WR- Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Devonta, K Allen, Godwin, Lockett, Douglas, Z Jones
TE- LaPorta, Pitts
DL- Phillips, Burns, Buckner, Thibs
LB- Luvu, E.Jones, Warner Pace
DB- Hamilton, Metellus Hufanga, Bates, Branch
League started in 2020
2020 7th
2021 Champ
2022 Champ
2023 Champ
2024 picks 3.10 and 5.10

Team 2
12 team, SF, 0.5 ppr, 1.0 te prem, idp
Qb - Lamar, Kyler Jacoby
Rb - Achane, KWalk Swift, Estime, Irving Foreman, Mattison
Wr - Wilson, AJB, London, JSN Downs, Polk, R Wilson, Mims, Shaheed, McMillan, Palmer, Douglas
Te - Pitts, Goedert Bowers, Fant, All, Wiley
Dl - Gary, Greenard Latu, Mafe, Karlaftis
Lb - Luvu, Milano, Wilson Jamin
Db - Hamilton, Brisker Curl, Sainristil

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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:39 pm

Based on Pitts very high value, I think you would need to add another decent piece to get it done for Pitts. This is a pretty unfortunate spot to be based on already landing Hall with the other pick. I would keep shopping or ask the Pitts manager what would need added on top of the 1.01.

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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby Sriracha » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:45 pm

You should be able to get a very nice player for that 2nd 1.01

If you want Pitts, try it. His owners are probably over the moon but if I had another elite TE I'd easily move him for Hall.
I'd shake the leaf of the ETN owner, as well.

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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:32 pm

Am I missing something? Is this TE premium? No chance I'm adding to Hall for Pitts if I have Hall in a typical PPR scoring. I don't know why people think Pitts is worth the 1.01 and another good asset. That's crazy talk IMO. Give me work horse RB with the elite profile all day. If you have Breece already, I think 1.01 is very fair for Pitts. If he balks, go elsewhere, Pitts isn't worth 1.01 and other good assets IMO.
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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:36 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:32 pm Am I missing something? Is this TE premium? No chance I'm adding to Hall for Pitts if I have Hall in a typical PPR scoring. I don't know why people think Pitts is worth the 1.01 and another good asset. That's crazy talk IMO. Give me work horse RB with the elite profile all day. If you have Breece already, I think 1.01 is very fair for Pitts. If he balks, go elsewhere, Pitts isn't worth 1.01 and other good assets IMO.
I'm with you but based on the countless Pitts posts on here, seems Pitts is consistently valued over the 1.01 or essentially a top 10 ish asset. I don't get it either but all my responses are based on market value fair or not. Pitts is young and exciting at a position void of talent which really helps his market value, but for me he is just not worth the price it will cost to land him. His TDs will go up but he scored 1 time last year and is held in elite elite asset territory. There was no one else to pass the ball to last year and still only 1 TD...he had a 1000+ yards which is big, but what does he do if London is a legit option? Time will tell and I like Pitts but he is valued way to high to acquire.

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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby Anteaters » Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:11 am

Breece for meece
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, CWilliams
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JFord, Corum, JWright
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Q Johnston, DeDouglas, MCorley
TE: Goedert, Okongwo
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, DLloyd; (DE/DL) Sieler; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion

TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, Singletary, AJD, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, VJefferson, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser

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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:15 am

id try to trade it for another running back and see if someone wants to sawp out their older proven guy for a youthful hall
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby CGW » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:23 am

I like the idea of trading the second 1.01 for a proven piece. Its not going to get you Pitts though. Go ahead and send it, but as I've stated for every other Pitts trade, its going to cost you the next ten years worth of 1sts to get him from his owners.

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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:29 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:32 pm Am I missing something? Is this TE premium? No chance I'm adding to Hall for Pitts if I have Hall in a typical PPR scoring. I don't know why people think Pitts is worth the 1.01 and another good asset. That's crazy talk IMO. Give me work horse RB with the elite profile all day. If you have Breece already, I think 1.01 is very fair for Pitts. If he balks, go elsewhere, Pitts isn't worth 1.01 and other good assets IMO.
You are missing that Pitts should be a top 4 asset in non SF leagues.
Also the choice isn't really Breece vs Pitts, right? The op can't take breece because you can't have 2 copies of the same guy if I understand correctly. In this case, the pick should most definitely be traded. The team receiving the pick gets Hall, but no only loses Walker. Should be very easy to make a deal. But I think you'll need to add a fair bit to get Pitts.
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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:42 am

ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:29 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:32 pm Am I missing something? Is this TE premium? No chance I'm adding to Hall for Pitts if I have Hall in a typical PPR scoring. I don't know why people think Pitts is worth the 1.01 and another good asset. That's crazy talk IMO. Give me work horse RB with the elite profile all day. If you have Breece already, I think 1.01 is very fair for Pitts. If he balks, go elsewhere, Pitts isn't worth 1.01 and other good assets IMO.
You are missing that Pitts should be a top 4 asset in non SF leagues.
Also the choice isn't really Breece vs Pitts, right? The op can't take breece because you can't have 2 copies of the same guy if I understand correctly. In this case, the pick should most definitely be traded. The team receiving the pick gets Hall, but no only loses Walker. Should be very easy to make a deal. But I think you'll need to add a fair bit to get Pitts.
Yes it is, because whoever gets that pick can take Breece, so he should be selling it with that in mind as it's value. That's my point here. I'd take Hall over Pitts all day in non SF, so I guess that means Hall is a top 3 asset? :lol: So my point is he shouldn't be moving that pick that can land Hall, plus another valuable asset just for Pitts. He's better off going for another player trading away that pick if that's the case.
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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:46 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:42 am
ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:29 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:32 pm Am I missing something? Is this TE premium? No chance I'm adding to Hall for Pitts if I have Hall in a typical PPR scoring. I don't know why people think Pitts is worth the 1.01 and another good asset. That's crazy talk IMO. Give me work horse RB with the elite profile all day. If you have Breece already, I think 1.01 is very fair for Pitts. If he balks, go elsewhere, Pitts isn't worth 1.01 and other good assets IMO.
You are missing that Pitts should be a top 4 asset in non SF leagues.
Also the choice isn't really Breece vs Pitts, right? The op can't take breece because you can't have 2 copies of the same guy if I understand correctly. In this case, the pick should most definitely be traded. The team receiving the pick gets Hall, but no only loses Walker. Should be very easy to make a deal. But I think you'll need to add a fair bit to get Pitts.
Yes it is, because whoever gets that pick can take Breece, so he should be selling it with that in mind as it's value. That's my point here. I'd take Hall over Pitts all day in non SF, so I guess that means Hall is a top 3 asset? :lol: So my point is he shouldn't be moving that pick that can land Hall, plus another valuable asset just for Pitts. He's better off going for another player trading away that pick if that's the case.
Nope, just means you are off base on Pitts imo
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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:50 am

ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:46 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:42 am
ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:29 am

You are missing that Pitts should be a top 4 asset in non SF leagues.
Also the choice isn't really Breece vs Pitts, right? The op can't take breece because you can't have 2 copies of the same guy if I understand correctly. In this case, the pick should most definitely be traded. The team receiving the pick gets Hall, but no only loses Walker. Should be very easy to make a deal. But I think you'll need to add a fair bit to get Pitts.
Yes it is, because whoever gets that pick can take Breece, so he should be selling it with that in mind as it's value. That's my point here. I'd take Hall over Pitts all day in non SF, so I guess that means Hall is a top 3 asset? :lol: So my point is he shouldn't be moving that pick that can land Hall, plus another valuable asset just for Pitts. He's better off going for another player trading away that pick if that's the case.
Nope, just means you are off base on Pitts imo
Yeah, that's fair. I think people valuing him as 1.01++ are way off based. It is what it is. We all value players differently.
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Re: Breece Hall or Kyle Pitts?

Postby JoeJoe88 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:51 am

Pitts>1.01 all day and twice on Sundays.


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