I am a huge Elijah Moore fan, but I am convinced they are going to draft someone bigger, with better draft capital this year.
Which would you rather have and why? Moore or a random 23 1st? I'd like to cash in on the hype since I picked him up at the 2.04 last year, but don't want to just give him away.
Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
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Team 1: 12 Team 1 PPR-1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE
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RB-B. Hall,, D. Achane, T. Spears, E. Mitchell, M. Carter, K. Gainwell, C. Hubbard, J. Ford, T. Chandler
WR- T. Higgins, D.J. Moore, D. London, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Addison, J. Williams, E. Moore, P. Campbell
TE- K. Pitts, N. Fant, J Ferguson
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RB-J. Taylor, J. Mixon, E. Mitchell, D. Pierce, Gordon, I. Spiller, Haskins
WR-D. Hopkins, A. Cooper, C. Godwin, D.J. Moore, T. McLaurin, C.Sutton, D. Duvernay, T. Marshall
TE-T. Hockenson, A. Hooper, D.Arnold, M.Alie-Cox, F. Moreau
QB-J.Burrow, W. Levis
RB-B. Hall,, D. Achane, T. Spears, E. Mitchell, M. Carter, K. Gainwell, C. Hubbard, J. Ford, T. Chandler
WR- T. Higgins, D.J. Moore, D. London, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Addison, J. Williams, E. Moore, P. Campbell
TE- K. Pitts, N. Fant, J Ferguson
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QB- K. Cousins, M. Stafford,
RB- S. Barkley, B. Hall, J. Gibbs, K. Miller, J. Warren, J Ford
WR- C. Lamb, D. Metcalf, M. Pittman, J. Metchie, O. Beckham, D. Slayton
TE- D. Waller, K. Granson
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RB-J. Taylor, J. Mixon, E. Mitchell, D. Pierce, Gordon, I. Spiller, Haskins
WR-D. Hopkins, A. Cooper, C. Godwin, D.J. Moore, T. McLaurin, C.Sutton, D. Duvernay, T. Marshall
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Re: Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
If the pick has a realistic shot at being early to mid, the value is on the pick side based on the value and hype of the class. If likely late, hold.
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Re: Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
Post the team and format of the team whose pick it is
I can go either way
Leaning slightly to Moore because I think the Jets offense improves enough but a real shitty team would change my mind
I can go either way
Leaning slightly to Moore because I think the Jets offense improves enough but a real shitty team would change my mind
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Re: Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
Drake London would be perfect for Moore. A guy that's a totally different skill set. G Wilson would be more problematic.
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Re: Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
I would gamble on the pick here. 2023 class should be very good.
Elijah Moore MAY be better than pick 1.11 or 1.12, but I would want a top 10 pick in 2023 over Moore.
I mean even a chance to land Bijan Robinson, Zach Evans, Jahmyr Gibbs, Jaxon Smith-Njiba, Kayshon Boutte, Tank Bigbsy, etc., would be well worth the gamble of trading away Elijah Moore.
Elijah Moore MAY be better than pick 1.11 or 1.12, but I would want a top 10 pick in 2023 over Moore.
I mean even a chance to land Bijan Robinson, Zach Evans, Jahmyr Gibbs, Jaxon Smith-Njiba, Kayshon Boutte, Tank Bigbsy, etc., would be well worth the gamble of trading away Elijah Moore.
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Re: Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
Those are 2022 WR's. The OP is asking about trading Elijah Moore for a random 2023 1st round pick.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:49 pm Drake London would be perfect for Moore. A guy that's a totally different skill set. G Wilson would be more problematic.
That is an easy yes for me, as the 2023 class is loaded.
Re: Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
I lean the pick side as well
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Re: Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
If this is for the team in your sig, you are a ways from contending, and I don't see Moore as a building block. I'd rather add another 1st rd pick while you can still get one for him.
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Re: Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
He's saying that if the Jets drafted London it would compliment Moore well, but if they draft Wilson then it's going to eat into what Moore can do production wise.MacDaddy123 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:41 amThose are 2022 WR's. The OP is asking about trading Elijah Moore for a random 2023 1st round pick.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:49 pm Drake London would be perfect for Moore. A guy that's a totally different skill set. G Wilson would be more problematic.
That is an easy yes for me, as the 2023 class is loaded.
It's a real dilemma, but I think you favor the random '23 tbh.
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Re: Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
I put out some offers for random 23 1sts prior to the draft and didn't get any takers. Ironically, I was able to move Toney and the 2.02 this year for a 23 1st....which was kind of a head scratcher for me.
I am good with holding Moore for now, but I was hoping to get some potential points off my team to lock up the 1.01, while also earning another 23rd 1st for Moore. I fear I am at the point where I am not good enough to compete, but too good to earn the 1.01 next year.
I am good with holding Moore for now, but I was hoping to get some potential points off my team to lock up the 1.01, while also earning another 23rd 1st for Moore. I fear I am at the point where I am not good enough to compete, but too good to earn the 1.01 next year.
Team 1: 12 Team 1 PPR-1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE
QB-J.Burrow, W. Levis
RB-B. Hall,, D. Achane, T. Spears, E. Mitchell, M. Carter, K. Gainwell, C. Hubbard, J. Ford, T. Chandler
WR- T. Higgins, D.J. Moore, D. London, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Addison, J. Williams, E. Moore, P. Campbell
TE- K. Pitts, N. Fant, J Ferguson
Team 2: 12 Team 1 PPR-1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE
QB- K. Cousins, M. Stafford,
RB- S. Barkley, B. Hall, J. Gibbs, K. Miller, J. Warren, J Ford
WR- C. Lamb, D. Metcalf, M. Pittman, J. Metchie, O. Beckham, D. Slayton
TE- D. Waller, K. Granson
Team 3: 12 Team SF TEP- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB- J. Hurts, G. Smith, J. Garappolo, D. Lock, S. Darnold
RB-J. Taylor, J. Mixon, E. Mitchell, D. Pierce, Gordon, I. Spiller, Haskins
WR-D. Hopkins, A. Cooper, C. Godwin, D.J. Moore, T. McLaurin, C.Sutton, D. Duvernay, T. Marshall
TE-T. Hockenson, A. Hooper, D.Arnold, M.Alie-Cox, F. Moreau
QB-J.Burrow, W. Levis
RB-B. Hall,, D. Achane, T. Spears, E. Mitchell, M. Carter, K. Gainwell, C. Hubbard, J. Ford, T. Chandler
WR- T. Higgins, D.J. Moore, D. London, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Addison, J. Williams, E. Moore, P. Campbell
TE- K. Pitts, N. Fant, J Ferguson
Team 2: 12 Team 1 PPR-1 QB, 2RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE
QB- K. Cousins, M. Stafford,
RB- S. Barkley, B. Hall, J. Gibbs, K. Miller, J. Warren, J Ford
WR- C. Lamb, D. Metcalf, M. Pittman, J. Metchie, O. Beckham, D. Slayton
TE- D. Waller, K. Granson
Team 3: 12 Team SF TEP- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB- J. Hurts, G. Smith, J. Garappolo, D. Lock, S. Darnold
RB-J. Taylor, J. Mixon, E. Mitchell, D. Pierce, Gordon, I. Spiller, Haskins
WR-D. Hopkins, A. Cooper, C. Godwin, D.J. Moore, T. McLaurin, C.Sutton, D. Duvernay, T. Marshall
TE-T. Hockenson, A. Hooper, D.Arnold, M.Alie-Cox, F. Moreau
Re: Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
Not surprising. Moore's value took a big hit after NY drafted GWilson.lt1hawk337 wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 5:59 pm I put out some offers for random 23 1sts prior to the draft and didn't get any takers.
If you're all in on a full rebuild that has you in contention for a T3 draft pick, I would start asking for '24 1sts. Unless GWilson is a bust, Moore's ceiling is going to be a WR3. If that's Moore's future, you're better off resetting and hoping the new pick hits the lottery for you. If no one wanted to give a '24 1st for him (which I understand because I would not either) then I'd accept a '23 2nd.lt1hawk337 wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 5:59 pm I am good with holding Moore for now, but I was hoping to get some potential points off my team to lock up the 1.01, while also earning another 23rd 1st for Moore. I fear I am at the point where I am not good enough to compete, but too good to earn the 1.01 next year.
If you can't trade him for a projected high 2nd, then I'd hold him. But I'd hold with the expectation that I'm holding a roster clogger and/or three times a year bye-week or injury fill-in. I'd also use him as a sweetener to facilitate other trades.
I simply don't see any realistic outcome that has EMoore as a T20 fantasy WR in NY.
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WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
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Re: Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
^ even with Wislon getting drafted, this is by far the lowest take on EMoore I've seen. WR1 ceiling is easily still on the table. GW has never played a pro snap, and Moore already put together a solid sampling of week in and week out WR1 play
I agree that he's an early 2nd value/hold, but I would absolutely try for a late 1st in any Moore trade negotiation were i to try and move him. It is not unreasonable to think that someone would make that slight overpay from about 2.2 to 1.11ish
And that floor is straight ridiculous. Even if GW balls out, a 3-spot starts per season expectation for E Moore is laughable. You should glance at current NFL trends for 3WR sets and team WR2 numbers. I'm curious where you rank E Moore against guys like Mike Williams, Gabe Davis, Renfrew, Lockett, etc...Lastly, considering NYJ's glowing analyses around recent drafts and improved skill position play, there is a lot of possible upside out there to bolster all Jets player values and prospects at the moment
I agree that he's an early 2nd value/hold, but I would absolutely try for a late 1st in any Moore trade negotiation were i to try and move him. It is not unreasonable to think that someone would make that slight overpay from about 2.2 to 1.11ish
And that floor is straight ridiculous. Even if GW balls out, a 3-spot starts per season expectation for E Moore is laughable. You should glance at current NFL trends for 3WR sets and team WR2 numbers. I'm curious where you rank E Moore against guys like Mike Williams, Gabe Davis, Renfrew, Lockett, etc...Lastly, considering NYJ's glowing analyses around recent drafts and improved skill position play, there is a lot of possible upside out there to bolster all Jets player values and prospects at the moment
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QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
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Re: Elijah Moore or Random 23 1st
Heading into the 2022 season...realmacaroni wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 6:41 amI'm curious where you rank E Moore against guys like Mike Williams, Gabe Davis, Renfrew, Lockett, etc...Lastly, considering NYJ's glowing analyses around recent drafts and improved skill position play, there is a lot of possible upside out there to bolster all Jets player values and prospects at the moment
MWilliams = Renfrow > Lockett = Gabe > EMoore
I have a gap after Renfrow. The gap between Gabe and EMoore is microscopic, but I put Gabe ahead because Josh>>>Zach and the BUF offense is a proven commodity >> NYJ Offense.
I'm well aware of NFL WR sets. I think EMoore will be a very good real world player for NYJ, but he'll be JAG as a fantasy WR. EMoore was ~WR30 in ppg in 2021, with solid but unspectacular competition for receptions. but it was an offense that spread the ball around. With Garrett added to EMoore and CDavis, I don't see any of them placing better than WR24 on the season. If Davis plays all season he'll siphon targets from Moore. If Garrett proves competent, he'll siphon targets from Moore.
With a better QB and a better offense, MWilliams was a low-end WR2 last season. I have a hard time predicting EMoore to outdo that in his current situation.
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RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
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RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, MWilliams, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
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14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
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