Henry Ruggs is Much More Than Speed

[willistylz1979]

Saw the pictures of his Vette and the front end damage. Knowing that he was traveling around 156MPH on side streets, that’s reprehensible. I’d like to know what he did after the crash. I’m assuming multiple airbags went off and saved his life. Can’t imagine being intoxicated and possible Concussion, loss of consciousness that he had a chance to help the driver get out of the vehicle that caught on fire. I wonder if the fire started instantly. This is a terrible tragedy and the person he hit was only 23 I think. Can’t imagine what her family is going though. He deserves the book thrown at him and the maximum penalty they can charge him with.

[95dent]

Maybe the title of the thread could do with an edit.

[thunderTung]

based on the mug shot im really surprised he doesn't have more superficial damage to his face going that fast.

150+ mph
way over the legal limit
results in an innocent death

But he chooses to draw the line of bad decisions by making sure he has his seatbelt on?

want to feel for a young kid making a really dumb choice, but when it harms others its hard to have sympathy.

This will live with him forever. Cant imagine what his and the victims families are going through right now. Garbage situation all around

[actionjackson]

Loaded gun too...This is absolutely terrible.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/henry-ru ... rosecutors

[FantasyFreak]

Loaded gun too...This is absolutely terrible.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/henry-ru ... rosecutors

What's the law about a registered firearm in car the state of Nevada? I don't want to assume it was registered, though, because he's obviously not the greatest at following protocol's.

[FantasyFreak]

based on the mug shot im really surprised he doesn't have more superficial damage to his face going that fast.

150+ mph
way over the legal limit
results in an innocent death

But he chooses to draw the line of bad decisions by making sure he has his seatbelt on?

want to feel for a young kid making a really dumb choice, but when it harms others its hard to have sympathy.

This will live with him forever. Cant imagine what his and the victims families are going through right now. Garbage situation all around

A bad concussion, I heard, too. His 3rd. His career is over. Rightfully so. The sad irony is, he gives the 3 fingers to the sky on every TD in remembrance of his best friend.......who was killed in a car accident. He deserves the maximum sentence if the information coming out is accurate.

[Draftnik]

These new bits of news are alarming. 156?

I retract my previous statements saying he may be able to strike a plea deal, and I hope he gets the book thrown at him.

Given he's a professional athlete it probably still won't be as extreme as an average civilian sentence, sadly. I hope I'm wrong.

[Anteaters]

As stated by multiple people earlier in the thread, he's been charged with a crime that - if convicted - requires a MINIMUM 2 year jail sentence. Add a minimum year-long suspension from the NFL and we're talking about someone who won't play football for 3 years.

If you want to hold feel free to, but I'm pretty sure the roster spot can be used better elsewhere.

The truth is he will not be convicted of the same crime of which he was charged. That's generally not the way it works. He will plead guilty to a lesser crime and the DA will go along with it. That's the way the system is set up to work. The only way he will be convicted of the original charge is if he goes to court and fights the charge. In this case, I think that is highly unlikely. He will plead to a reduced crime, receive a lesser sentence, and settle out of court with the family of the person he killed.

All that said, I agree with you that Ruggs should be dropped in almost every fantasy situation. I don't think he'll play until 2023 at the earliest. And even if he plays it will be as a 3rd WR on his team, which will not produce fantasy relevant stats. Certainly not worth holding for 2+ dead seasons

[Dynasty_Analyst]

As stated by multiple people earlier in the thread, he's been charged with a crime that - if convicted - requires a MINIMUM 2 year jail sentence. Add a minimum year-long suspension from the NFL and we're talking about someone who won't play football for 3 years.

If you want to hold feel free to, but I'm pretty sure the roster spot can be used better elsewhere.

The truth is he will not be convicted of the same crime of which he was charged. That's generally not the way it works. He will plead guilty to a lesser crime and the DA will go along with it. That's the way the system is set up to work. The only way he will be convicted of the original charge is if he goes to court and fights the charge. In this case, I think that is highly unlikely. He will plead to a reduced crime, receive a lesser sentence, and settle out of court with the family of the person he killed.

All that said, I agree with you that Ruggs should be dropped in almost every fantasy situation. I don't think he'll play until 2023 at the earliest. And even if he plays it will be as a 3rd WR on his team, which will not produce fantasy relevant stats. Certainly not worth holding for 2+ dead seasons

If Ruggs was a star QB MAYBE MAYBE he comes back but highly unlikely. If he gets a slap on the wrist by the court system there is no way any NFL team signs a marginally talented murderer. I’ll bet everything I own he doesn’t play for an NFL team again it’s a different NFL than 10 years ago. They care much more about the backlash than resigning a WR3.

[Jigga94]

As stated by multiple people earlier in the thread, he's been charged with a crime that - if convicted - requires a MINIMUM 2 year jail sentence. Add a minimum year-long suspension from the NFL and we're talking about someone who won't play football for 3 years.

If you want to hold feel free to, but I'm pretty sure the roster spot can be used better elsewhere.

The truth is he will not be convicted of the same crime of which he was charged. That's generally not the way it works. He will plead guilty to a lesser crime and the DA will go along with it. That's the way the system is set up to work. The only way he will be convicted of the original charge is if he goes to court and fights the charge. In this case, I think that is highly unlikely. He will plead to a reduced crime, receive a lesser sentence, and settle out of court with the family of the person he killed.

All that said, I agree with you that Ruggs should be dropped in almost every fantasy situation. I don't think he'll play until 2023 at the earliest. And even if he plays it will be as a 3rd WR on his team, which will not produce fantasy relevant stats. Certainly not worth holding for 2+ dead seasons

I'm honestly surprised you have so much confidence he's getting off (or slightly off) of all this. I mean, I'm skeptical of the legal system most times but Ruggs seems very guilty of manslaughter here. Maybe you're right, but this is one of the few times it seems very obvious to what he's done.

It's not like you were doing 90 in a 50 and the judge reduced it to 70. We are talking 100+ over the limit, DUI, loaded gun, and a death.

Is there a lesser crime you see fit for him to confess to and the DA and family will be content with it?

[Anteaters]

I didn't say he would get off scott free. I said he would plead guilty to a lesser charge. And thus be handed a lesser sentence. There is no debating that is how the legal system is structured. He doesn't have to be a big star for this. The legal system doesn't want trials - it wants convictions via plea deals. If he cooperates with that, he'll receive a lesser conviction. Guaranteed.

[Jigga94]

I didn't say he would get off scott free. I said he would plead guilty to a lesser charge. And thus be handed a lesser sentence. There is no debating that is how the legal system is structured. He doesn't have to be a big star for this. The legal system doesn't want trials - it wants convictions via plea deals. If he cooperates with that, he'll receive a lesser conviction. Guaranteed.

Ok, but again, what is the lesser crime here? Reckless driving? Carrying a loaded firearm? Then they just ignore the manslaughter charge? I don't think so

[straightcashhomie831]

I didn't say he would get off scott free. I said he would plead guilty to a lesser charge. And thus be handed a lesser sentence. There is no debating that is how the legal system is structured. He doesn't have to be a big star for this. The legal system doesn't want trials - it wants convictions via plea deals. If he cooperates with that, he'll receive a lesser conviction. Guaranteed.

In this case, Ruggs is the one who doesn't want to go to trial. DA has no reason to give him a lesser charge. He's going to get manslaughter. He goes to trial and loses then he faces MORE time. What exact charge do you think his Vehicle Manslaughter charge/DUI will get dropped too?

[FantasyFreak]

As a Raiders fan, and someone who rosters Ruggs on over 50 percent of my Dynasty Rosters, I hope he doesn't get off lightly. He deserves a harsh sentence for that type of negligence. I consider him worthless in this little game we play, at this point. Maybe some rebuilding team will pay a 4th, or have him tacked on to a trade as a throw in in deeper roster leagues, but that's it.

[Ice]

Loaded gun too...This is absolutely terrible.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/henry-ru ... rosecutors

What's the law about a registered firearm in car the state of Nevada? I don't want to assume it was registered, though, because he's obviously not the greatest at following protocol's.

The gun argument is simply for some news affect as it has nothing to do with it although it would be pretty silly to carry an unloaded gun around.

But to answer your question; it is similar to Texas I believe.

As an example, I can OPEN carry my Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm in a holster on my hip in Texas without any permit at all. However, I also have a concealed carry permit so I don't have to open carry. In other words, one typically needs a permit to conceal a firearm.