Lol, calm your jets friend. I still demand that you never change your avatar ever again, forevermore.
I already love life. In part because I think this concern, while valid, is a bit backwards and has been the entire season with this kid. While you say “watch for competition” I say “It would make sense to bring in SUPPORT”. Why would they invest a lot in RB to produce what they already have produced with a lesser investment? Its just not economical. Anybody they bring in will hurt Robinson as much as Hunt “hurts” Chubb IMO.mild wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:10 pmLol, calm your jets friend. I still demand that you never change your avatar ever again, forevermore.
But your chances of riding the train sure look pretty good right now. Your next obstacle on the roadmap is Draft/FA 2021 for the Jags... you'll be loving life if he makes it through that with minimal competition AND they add Fields.
NFL impact players get missed all the time, even when they are quite literally on an NFL team. In order to become established a player needs an opportunity and quite frankly many of them never get it. Brady was a sixth round pick who probably never would have started in his entire life if Bledsoe didn't get hurt. It's a classic example, but there are some every year.
I agree with your take on Leake, he looks a lot better on tape than McFarland and outproduced him in the same situation but McFarland ran a 4.44 so he gets a shot and Leake didn't. As for the reason JRob didn't get drafted- we see this with guys from FCS and D2/D3 schools a lot. Teams get scared off because the level of competition they play isn't as good but out of the undrafted guys that end up being good a lot of them come from these places like Adam Thielen and Austin Ekeler. Keep your eyes open for Jah-Maine Martin from North Carolina A&T in round 4 of your rookie drafts next year.notweswelker wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:18 pmNFL impact players get missed all the time, even when they are quite literally on an NFL team. In order to become established a player needs an opportunity and quite frankly many of them never get it. Brady was a sixth round pick who probably never would have started in his entire life if Bledsoe didn't get hurt. It's a classic example, but there are some every year.
Just from this past draft Javon Leake also went undrafted and hasn't had a carry yet in the NFL and probably won't. He didn't get a shot to get substantial carries until his junior year at MD and put up poor measurables. That's enough to snuff out a guy's career. Watch this guy run and tell me there are 90 better running backs in the NFL. It's laughable. The man ran for 7.9 yards per carry AND was an elite return man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cpvTx-MukM
Oddly enough he wasn't on a competing team in any of my 3 leagues.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:03 pm Heard/read a comment that JRob's production has been such a great value that any team with him *surely* did well.
Curious if that's right for others, certainly not me-
Keeper- missed playoffs
12 team PPR #1- advanced to second round despite no Saquon
12 team PPR #2- booted in first round
14 team ppr- rebuilding team so sold him mid year, hoping I don't regret it
I think a thing with contenders that have deep teams is that hey might not have had space to have picked up JROB? Maybe they were saving FAAB for a mid season breakout instead of a dart throw? And to think that a free 20+ PPG RB add hasnt helped propel you to #1, or #2 in the second and third team there is kind of crazy to me? Obviously one player wont win you every week, but I bet JROB kept you a lot closer in games than the next best option would have. And even the team that missed the playoffs I bet he helped you win a few games, and if you still had 0 wins on that team I dont think 1 players, no matter who it was this season would have wont you a few games.CGW wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:06 pmOddly enough he wasn't on a competing team in any of my 3 leagues.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:03 pm Heard/read a comment that JRob's production has been such a great value that any team with him *surely* did well.
Curious if that's right for others, certainly not me-
Keeper- missed playoffs
12 team PPR #1- advanced to second round despite no Saquon
12 team PPR #2- booted in first round
14 team ppr- rebuilding team so sold him mid year, hoping I don't regret it
The 1 team that has him was 5-8 in my league.nathanq42 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:12 pmI think a thing with contenders that have deep teams is that hey might not have had space to have picked up JROB? Maybe they were saving FAAB for a mid season breakout instead of a dart throw? And to think that a free 20+ PPG RB add hasnt helped propel you to #1, or #2 in the second and third team there is kind of crazy to me? Obviously one player wont win you every week, but I bet JROB kept you a lot closer in games than the next best option would have. And even the team that missed the playoffs I bet he helped you win a few games, and if you still had 0 wins on that team I dont think 1 players, no matter who it was this season would have wont you a few games.CGW wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:06 pmOddly enough he wasn't on a competing team in any of my 3 leagues.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:03 pm Heard/read a comment that JRob's production has been such a great value that any team with him *surely* did well.
Curious if that's right for others, certainly not me-
Keeper- missed playoffs
12 team PPR #1- advanced to second round despite no Saquon
12 team PPR #2- booted in first round
14 team ppr- rebuilding team so sold him mid year, hoping I don't regret it
Most likely this. Weaker teams have more slots for dart throws. It's likely he ended up on more rebuilding teams than strong competitors. I'd have to imagine any competitors who did have the space are heavy favorites though.nathanq42 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:12 pmI think a thing with contenders that have deep teams is that hey might not have had space to have picked up JROB? Maybe they were saving FAAB for a mid season breakout instead of a dart throw?CGW wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:06 pmOddly enough he wasn't on a competing team in any of my 3 leagues.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:03 pm Heard/read a comment that JRob's production has been such a great value that any team with him *surely* did well.
Curious if that's right for others, certainly not me-
Keeper- missed playoffs
12 team PPR #1- advanced to second round despite no Saquon
12 team PPR #2- booted in first round
14 team ppr- rebuilding team so sold him mid year, hoping I don't regret it
The difference is that Leake is actually no good.notweswelker wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:18 pmNFL impact players get missed all the time, even when they are quite literally on an NFL team. In order to become established a player needs an opportunity and quite frankly many of them never get it. Brady was a sixth round pick who probably never would have started in his entire life if Bledsoe didn't get hurt. It's a classic example, but there are some every year.
Just from this past draft Javon Leake also went undrafted and hasn't had a carry yet in the NFL and probably won't. He didn't get a shot to get substantial carries until his junior year at MD and put up poor measurables. That's enough to snuff out a guy's career. Watch this guy run and tell me there are 90 better running backs in the NFL. It's laughable. The man ran for 7.9 yards per carry AND was an elite return man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cpvTx-MukM
I think you're right for the most part regarding needing an opportunity to get established. Regarding Brady, he would have become the starter sooner rather than later. My father took John Friesz fishing a number of times and we were able to have a few dinners with him as well. He said that he new Brady would be a starter and a really good QB. He said he knew when Brady came in his rookie year.notweswelker wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:18 pmNFL impact players get missed all the time, even when they are quite literally on an NFL team. In order to become established a player needs an opportunity and quite frankly many of them never get it. Brady was a sixth round pick who probably never would have started in his entire life if Bledsoe didn't get hurt. It's a classic example, but there are some every year.
Just from this past draft Javon Leake also went undrafted and hasn't had a carry yet in the NFL and probably won't. He didn't get a shot to get substantial carries until his junior year at MD and put up poor measurables. That's enough to snuff out a guy's career. Watch this guy run and tell me there are 90 better running backs in the NFL. It's laughable. The man ran for 7.9 yards per carry AND was an elite return man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cpvTx-MukM
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