While I largely agree, he put together a virtual combine with much better numbers and he looks way faster than a 4.45 or whatever it was.
Is Reagor the top WR to get in 2020?
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Re: Is Reagor the top WR to get in 2020?
You name it. Any productive RB drafted over the past 3-4 years. Mostly Kerryon Johnson and Devin Singletary.joeya2001 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:35 amWhat RBs did you trade for your WRsdlf_mikeh wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:21 amI do. This is by my own admission.Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:15 am that last post confirms i will not take reagor anywhere seeing mike has already said he sucks at picking wrs.
The WRs I’ve drafted over the last two years are DJ Moore, Marquise Brown (woo!) and Parris Campbell (boo!).
That’s right. Seven dynasty leagues, I targeted a total of three receivers in two years. All I ever do is draft running back and then use that to trade for a wide receiver early in their careers. So while I own others such as Deebo Samuel, Cortland Sutton, and AJ Brown… I didn’t actually draft any of those guys.
I’ll own 4 copies of Reagor, my biggest “all in” at wide receiver ever. I did more research than ever and I feel pretty confident. So if I fail here, I might just keep my mouth shut at wr forever.
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Re: Is Reagor the top WR to get in 2020?
I really don't understand how people are saying that Reagor is "risky" and "raw" while Lamb is more polished and "safe."
Lamb seems safer and more polished because he was the consensus WR1 or WR2 pre-draft. I really like Lamb and prefer him to Reagor but "safety" isn't the reason you should pick Lamb ahead of Reagor. Just like Reagor, Lamb played against poor Big 12 CBs, didn't face press, and wasn't asked to run a huge variety of routes. I actually think Reagor is the "safer" prospect as his twitchiness and easy separation is an easily translatable skill.
Lamb seems safer and more polished because he was the consensus WR1 or WR2 pre-draft. I really like Lamb and prefer him to Reagor but "safety" isn't the reason you should pick Lamb ahead of Reagor. Just like Reagor, Lamb played against poor Big 12 CBs, didn't face press, and wasn't asked to run a huge variety of routes. I actually think Reagor is the "safer" prospect as his twitchiness and easy separation is an easily translatable skill.
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hes seems more safe and polished to me because of what i see from him on film. I don't think he will be as dominant After the Catch like he was in college but i like his hands, physicality, size, route running and football IQ. I've seen enough film on him to get a good opinion. i try to go by MY OWN Rankings...and Lamb checks all the boxes for me. But Reagor was my crush of the draft. I was all Lamb up until about 2 weeks ago lol.Chwf3rd wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:43 pm I really don't understand how people are saying that Reagor is "risky" and "raw" while Lamb is more polished and "safe."
Lamb seems safer and more polished because he was the consensus WR1 or WR2 pre-draft. I really like Lamb and prefer him to Reagor but "safety" isn't the reason you should pick Lamb ahead of Reagor. Just like Reagor, Lamb played against poor Big 12 CBs, didn't face press, and wasn't asked to run a huge variety of routes. I actually think Reagor is the "safer" prospect as his twitchiness and easy separation is an easily translatable skill.
I had pick 1.08. I didn't even think Lamb would get to me so in my mind there was no chance. Lamb fell to me and i just went with Reagor...i was trying to trade back a few spots to no avail.
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I prefer Lamb as well just really think the characterization is of the players is very far off.straightcashhomie831 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:22 pmhes seems more safe and polished to me because of what i see from him on film. I don't think he will be as dominant After the Catch like he was in college but i like his hands, physicality, size, route running and football IQ. I've seen enough film on him to get a good opinion. i try to go by MY OWN Rankings...and Lamb checks all the boxes for me. But Reagor was my crush of the draft. I was all Lamb up until about 2 weeks ago lol.Chwf3rd wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:43 pm I really don't understand how people are saying that Reagor is "risky" and "raw" while Lamb is more polished and "safe."
Lamb seems safer and more polished because he was the consensus WR1 or WR2 pre-draft. I really like Lamb and prefer him to Reagor but "safety" isn't the reason you should pick Lamb ahead of Reagor. Just like Reagor, Lamb played against poor Big 12 CBs, didn't face press, and wasn't asked to run a huge variety of routes. I actually think Reagor is the "safer" prospect as his twitchiness and easy separation is an easily translatable skill.
I had pick 1.08. I didn't even think Lamb would get to me so in my mind there was no chance. Lamb fell to me and i just went with Reagor...i was trying to trade back a few spots to no avail.
Reagor has a skill set which translates easily - effortless separation. Lamb is the one with the higher upside but skills that are harder to quantify: playmaking, feel, and RAC. If I was betting on floor I’d easily take Reagor.
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Lamb produced. That's why.Chwf3rd wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:43 pm I really don't understand how people are saying that Reagor is "risky" and "raw" while Lamb is more polished and "safe."
Lamb seems safer and more polished because he was the consensus WR1 or WR2 pre-draft. I really like Lamb and prefer him to Reagor but "safety" isn't the reason you should pick Lamb ahead of Reagor. Just like Reagor, Lamb played against poor Big 12 CBs, didn't face press, and wasn't asked to run a huge variety of routes. I actually think Reagor is the "safer" prospect as his twitchiness and easy separation is an easily translatable skill.
I get the bad QB play, but Reagor wasn't even the top receiver in terms of yardage on his own team for a significant number of games last year--including against some really awful defenses (even by Big 12 standards)
And on top of it Lamb didn't really have any drop issues.
With that said, I don't believe either is a very safe prospect: just that Lamb's ceiling is more likely to be realized--something I base off his body of work having watched a ton of Big 12 football over the years
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i didn't see the effortless separation as much as i wanted...at least not early in the routes.Chwf3rd wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:58 pmI prefer Lamb as well just really think the characterization is of the players is very far off.straightcashhomie831 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:22 pmhes seems more safe and polished to me because of what i see from him on film. I don't think he will be as dominant After the Catch like he was in college but i like his hands, physicality, size, route running and football IQ. I've seen enough film on him to get a good opinion. i try to go by MY OWN Rankings...and Lamb checks all the boxes for me. But Reagor was my crush of the draft. I was all Lamb up until about 2 weeks ago lol.Chwf3rd wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:43 pm I really don't understand how people are saying that Reagor is "risky" and "raw" while Lamb is more polished and "safe."
Lamb seems safer and more polished because he was the consensus WR1 or WR2 pre-draft. I really like Lamb and prefer him to Reagor but "safety" isn't the reason you should pick Lamb ahead of Reagor. Just like Reagor, Lamb played against poor Big 12 CBs, didn't face press, and wasn't asked to run a huge variety of routes. I actually think Reagor is the "safer" prospect as his twitchiness and easy separation is an easily translatable skill.
I had pick 1.08. I didn't even think Lamb would get to me so in my mind there was no chance. Lamb fell to me and i just went with Reagor...i was trying to trade back a few spots to no avail.
Reagor has a skill set which translates easily - effortless separation. Lamb is the one with the higher upside but skills that are harder to quantify: playmaking, feel, and RAC. If I was betting on floor I’d easily take Reagor.
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Which games did you watch to come to this effortless separation conclusion?Chwf3rd wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:58 pmI prefer Lamb as well just really think the characterization is of the players is very far off.straightcashhomie831 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:22 pmhes seems more safe and polished to me because of what i see from him on film. I don't think he will be as dominant After the Catch like he was in college but i like his hands, physicality, size, route running and football IQ. I've seen enough film on him to get a good opinion. i try to go by MY OWN Rankings...and Lamb checks all the boxes for me. But Reagor was my crush of the draft. I was all Lamb up until about 2 weeks ago lol.Chwf3rd wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:43 pm I really don't understand how people are saying that Reagor is "risky" and "raw" while Lamb is more polished and "safe."
Lamb seems safer and more polished because he was the consensus WR1 or WR2 pre-draft. I really like Lamb and prefer him to Reagor but "safety" isn't the reason you should pick Lamb ahead of Reagor. Just like Reagor, Lamb played against poor Big 12 CBs, didn't face press, and wasn't asked to run a huge variety of routes. I actually think Reagor is the "safer" prospect as his twitchiness and easy separation is an easily translatable skill.
I had pick 1.08. I didn't even think Lamb would get to me so in my mind there was no chance. Lamb fell to me and i just went with Reagor...i was trying to trade back a few spots to no avail.
Reagor has a skill set which translates easily - effortless separation. Lamb is the one with the higher upside but skills that are harder to quantify: playmaking, feel, and RAC. If I was betting on floor I’d easily take Reagor.
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I've seen Oklahoma St, West Virginia, Texas, Arkansas Pine Bluff, Ohio St (2018), and West Virginia (2018).ericanadian wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:07 amWhich games did you watch to come to this effortless separation conclusion?Chwf3rd wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:58 pmI prefer Lamb as well just really think the characterization is of the players is very far off.straightcashhomie831 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:22 pm
hes seems more safe and polished to me because of what i see from him on film. I don't think he will be as dominant After the Catch like he was in college but i like his hands, physicality, size, route running and football IQ. I've seen enough film on him to get a good opinion. i try to go by MY OWN Rankings...and Lamb checks all the boxes for me. But Reagor was my crush of the draft. I was all Lamb up until about 2 weeks ago lol.
I had pick 1.08. I didn't even think Lamb would get to me so in my mind there was no chance. Lamb fell to me and i just went with Reagor...i was trying to trade back a few spots to no avail.
Reagor has a skill set which translates easily - effortless separation. Lamb is the one with the higher upside but skills that are harder to quantify: playmaking, feel, and RAC. If I was betting on floor I’d easily take Reagor.
Here's my writeup of him: incredibly fast and quick - stands out watching him immediately, great YAC, easy separation, incredibly quick out of breaks, ability to go up and high point, contested catch ability.
If you disagree that's fine but his quick twitch allows him to separate quickly and thats a trait thats easy to project.
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I was happy to land him at 1.13 in my draft, the fifth WR off the board. I'd been hoping that one of the top five RBs would slip down to where I could offer enough to move up a few slots but they went in a hurry. It came down to Reagor or Ruggs and I just like Reagor's landing spot better.
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ahhh, the landing spot.bobandrews wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:47 pm I was happy to land him at 1.13 in my draft, the fifth WR off the board. I'd been hoping that one of the top five RBs would slip down to where I could offer enough to move up a few slots but they went in a hurry. It came down to Reagor or Ruggs and I just like Reagor's landing spot better.
last year i wouldn't look sideways at aj brown because of his landing spot. corey davis just couldn't get going there so i looked elsewhere.
turns out brown is a beast and davis just isn't very good.
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Helps that AJB is a YAC monster; while CD is more of an ADOT receiver.Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:41 pmahhh, the landing spot.bobandrews wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:47 pm I was happy to land him at 1.13 in my draft, the fifth WR off the board. I'd been hoping that one of the top five RBs would slip down to where I could offer enough to move up a few slots but they went in a hurry. It came down to Reagor or Ruggs and I just like Reagor's landing spot better.
last year i wouldn't look sideways at aj brown because of his landing spot. corey davis just couldn't get going there so i looked elsewhere.
turns out brown is a beast and davis just isn't very good.
A lot easier to have success with subpar QB play when your game allows you to be less reliant on poor passes
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Surprised to see multiple people tout Philly as a great landing spot. Last year, more than half of Wentz’s passes (53.2% to be exact) went to TEs and RBs. With Ertz remaining highly productive and Sanders and Goedert ascending, I don’t see that changing anytime soon. I’m also pretty sure I read/heard somewhere that the Eagles ran more 12 personnel than any other team last year. Granted, the Eagles WRs aren’t exactly world beaters, even when healthy. But even if Reagor quickly ascends to the top of the pecking order, I just don’t think the volume will be there to make him THE WR1 in this class.
I had the opportunity to take him at 1.12 for team 3
In my sig. I considered it for a bit, but wound up taking Mims instead, who I think has a higher ceiling and floor.
I had the opportunity to take him at 1.12 for team 3
In my sig. I considered it for a bit, but wound up taking Mims instead, who I think has a higher ceiling and floor.
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Wentz threw to his TEs and RBs at a high rate last year because they were the only positions healthy. Their WR group was a mash unit. Having healthy (and capable) bodies outside should change that percentage.M-Dub wrote: ↑Sun Jun 07, 2020 3:15 am Surprised to see multiple people tout Philly as a great landing spot. Last year, more than half of Wentz’s passes (53.2% to be exact) went to TEs and RBs. With Ertz remaining highly productive and Sanders and Goedert ascending, I don’t see that changing anytime soon. I’m also pretty sure I read/heard somewhere that the Eagles ran more 12 personnel than any other team last year. Granted, the Eagles WRs aren’t exactly world beaters, even when healthy. But even if Reagor quickly ascends to the top of the pecking order, I just don’t think the volume will be there to make him THE WR1 in this class.
I had the opportunity to take him at 1.12 for team 3
In my sig. I considered it for a bit, but wound up taking Mims instead, who I think has a higher ceiling and floor.
As far as Reagor, I think he has been one of the most overrated prospects this year. The excuses made for his production this past season are pretty much identical to the excuses made for Corey Davis as a pro. "His QB sucks, hard to make plays when he doesn't get catchable balls, he still separates, etc". I just don't see this high end production from him as it pertains to fantasy. If he ends up just being their field stretcher and DJax replacement I wouldn't be shocked, and those guys are tough to rely on every week. I see a lot of Kendall Wright when I watch Reagor.
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Kendall Wright? How? Kendall was a 4.6 possession type. Reagor is a twitchy burner in the mold of Percy Harvin.
The Eagles haven’t given enough WR weapons to Wentz, but when Djax and Alshon have been healthy they’re very good in fantasy.
The Eagles haven’t given enough WR weapons to Wentz, but when Djax and Alshon have been healthy they’re very good in fantasy.
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