It’s not uncommon for a workhorse to increase their target share after their rookie year. Look at Zeke. Also, the offense will likely be better creating more TD opportunities and more positive game scripts.hoos89 wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 1:13 pm He's being projected as an RB1 because he was a top 15 RB in PPG last season as a rookie in spite of a lingering shoulder issue and limited receiving work (the two might be related). It's reasonable to expect people to be better year 2 than in year 1.
Also there's really been no indication that he CAN'T catch.
2020 Offseason Completed Trades
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
-
- Hall of Fame
- Posts: 4801
- Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:38 pm
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
Oh I know for a fact he can catch from what I saw at Alabama. But if the Raiders don't use him that way it doesn't matter what I seehoos89 wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 1:13 pm He's being projected as an RB1 because he was a top 15 RB in PPG last season as a rookie in spite of a lingering shoulder issue and limited receiving work (the two might be related). It's reasonable to expect people to be better year 2 than in year 1.
Also there's really been no indication that he CAN'T catch.
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
Ya i liked it too, its not like Sutton is a scrub. I know how valuable RBs are but my team isnt really at a point where i can compete with the top guys in my division, let alone the league. So i figure ill cash out on jacobs now and build a young Wr core that i can either play or trade in the future. Right now my WR core is DK, Sutton, Gallup, Harry, and probably whoever i snag at 2.04. Not bad. We shall see. Either way i dont see Jacobs ever being a Saquaon, CMC or Zeke so i think ill be ok and wont regret this trade too much.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 1:46 pmI like that. Sutton is great and 2.05 and 2.07 will net you some excellent prospects this year, especially if it’s superflex
-
- Starter
- Posts: 675
- Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:40 am
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
Gave: Breida, Curtis Samuel, & 2021 4th
Got: Hollywood Brown
Got: Hollywood Brown
12 Team Super-Flex TEP Dynasty
22 CHAMP
(2019 & 2020 Runner-Up)
1 QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, Flex, SF, 2 TE
3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 1 Flex IDP
QB- Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Gardner Minshew, Sam Ehlinger
RB- D’Andre Swift, Nick Chubb, Javonte Williams, Cam Akers, Kyren Williams, Jerome Ford, D’Ernest Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR- DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, Jameson Williams, Gabe Davis, Hollywood Brown, Josh Reynolds, Calvin Austin, Laviska Shenault, Kyle Phillips
TE-Mark Andrews, Greg Dulcich, Isaiah Likely, Donald Parham, Tyler Conklin
DL-Danielle Hunter, Nick Bosa, Deforest Buckner, Jonathon Allen
LB- Micah Parsons, Jack Sanborn, Logan Wilson, Cole Holcomb, Nakobe Dean, Brian Asamoah
DB-Jeremy Chinn, Jalen Pitre, Jalen Thompson, Kam Curl, Darrick Forrest
K-Tyler Bass
22 CHAMP
(2019 & 2020 Runner-Up)
1 QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, Flex, SF, 2 TE
3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 1 Flex IDP
QB- Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Gardner Minshew, Sam Ehlinger
RB- D’Andre Swift, Nick Chubb, Javonte Williams, Cam Akers, Kyren Williams, Jerome Ford, D’Ernest Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR- DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, Jameson Williams, Gabe Davis, Hollywood Brown, Josh Reynolds, Calvin Austin, Laviska Shenault, Kyle Phillips
TE-Mark Andrews, Greg Dulcich, Isaiah Likely, Donald Parham, Tyler Conklin
DL-Danielle Hunter, Nick Bosa, Deforest Buckner, Jonathon Allen
LB- Micah Parsons, Jack Sanborn, Logan Wilson, Cole Holcomb, Nakobe Dean, Brian Asamoah
DB-Jeremy Chinn, Jalen Pitre, Jalen Thompson, Kam Curl, Darrick Forrest
K-Tyler Bass
-
- Captain
- Posts: 806
- Joined: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:43 pm
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
That’s just insanely cheap nice tradeShankopotamus wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 9:10 pm Gave: Breida, Curtis Samuel, & 2021 4th
Got: Hollywood Brown
16 team Tiered PPR league, TE Premium, 52 man roster, 2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1W/R, 1TE/W, Full IDP
QB- Russ, Justin Herbert
RB- Antonio Gibson Ty Johnson, David Johnson Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Cordarelle Patterson,
TE- Hockeson, , Jonnu Smith, Firkser, Logan Thomas
QB- Russ, Justin Herbert
RB- Antonio Gibson Ty Johnson, David Johnson Lat Murray
WR- Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, DJ Moore, Cordarelle Patterson,
TE- Hockeson, , Jonnu Smith, Firkser, Logan Thomas
-
- Role Player
- Posts: 310
- Joined: Mon May 06, 2019 1:51 am
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
Gave devin bush
Got Joey bosa
Gave Joshua Kelley
Got Anthony Miller
Got Joey bosa
Gave Joshua Kelley
Got Anthony Miller
Qb: Mahomes
Rb: Jacobs Ceh, Damien williams, Vaughn, rojo, fournette, Singletary, akers, snell, devontae booker, boston Scott
Wr: devante Adams, godwin, juju, mclaurin, diontae johnson, mims, Allen Robinson, gallup, Preston Williams
Te: hock, fant
Cb: Kyle fuller, Carlton Davis
S: Jamal Adams, Justin poyer
Edr: nick bosa, Joey bosa, Josh Allen, Jpp, emmanuel agbah
IL: Chris Jones, Jonathan Allen
Lb: Darius Leonard, Roquan Smith, greenlaw
1QB
10 team league
32 man roster
0.5 point ppr
6 point pass td
Idp scoring is even with offense
Rb: Jacobs Ceh, Damien williams, Vaughn, rojo, fournette, Singletary, akers, snell, devontae booker, boston Scott
Wr: devante Adams, godwin, juju, mclaurin, diontae johnson, mims, Allen Robinson, gallup, Preston Williams
Te: hock, fant
Cb: Kyle fuller, Carlton Davis
S: Jamal Adams, Justin poyer
Edr: nick bosa, Joey bosa, Josh Allen, Jpp, emmanuel agbah
IL: Chris Jones, Jonathan Allen
Lb: Darius Leonard, Roquan Smith, greenlaw
1QB
10 team league
32 man roster
0.5 point ppr
6 point pass td
Idp scoring is even with offense
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
I really dont get how anyone could trade Hollywood for peanuts like this. Just dont get it. Watch the tape. The most you can expect from rookies is flash, they arent typically consistent, and Hollywoods flashes were huge, and he was hurt. Just dont get the low value on him.Shankopotamus wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 9:10 pm Gave: Breida, Curtis Samuel, & 2021 4th
Got: Hollywood Brown
-
- Starter
- Posts: 675
- Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:40 am
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
Curtis Samuel is a baller too. He just hasn't had a remotely accurate QB yet.Patsfan86 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 8:33 amI really dont get how anyone could trade Hollywood for peanuts like this. Just dont get it. Watch the tape. The most you can expect from rookies is flash, they arent typically consistent, and Hollywoods flashes were huge, and he was hurt. Just dont get the low value on him.Shankopotamus wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 9:10 pm Gave: Breida, Curtis Samuel, & 2021 4th
Got: Hollywood Brown
12 Team Super-Flex TEP Dynasty
22 CHAMP
(2019 & 2020 Runner-Up)
1 QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, Flex, SF, 2 TE
3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 1 Flex IDP
QB- Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Gardner Minshew, Sam Ehlinger
RB- D’Andre Swift, Nick Chubb, Javonte Williams, Cam Akers, Kyren Williams, Jerome Ford, D’Ernest Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR- DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, Jameson Williams, Gabe Davis, Hollywood Brown, Josh Reynolds, Calvin Austin, Laviska Shenault, Kyle Phillips
TE-Mark Andrews, Greg Dulcich, Isaiah Likely, Donald Parham, Tyler Conklin
DL-Danielle Hunter, Nick Bosa, Deforest Buckner, Jonathon Allen
LB- Micah Parsons, Jack Sanborn, Logan Wilson, Cole Holcomb, Nakobe Dean, Brian Asamoah
DB-Jeremy Chinn, Jalen Pitre, Jalen Thompson, Kam Curl, Darrick Forrest
K-Tyler Bass
22 CHAMP
(2019 & 2020 Runner-Up)
1 QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, Flex, SF, 2 TE
3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 1 Flex IDP
QB- Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Gardner Minshew, Sam Ehlinger
RB- D’Andre Swift, Nick Chubb, Javonte Williams, Cam Akers, Kyren Williams, Jerome Ford, D’Ernest Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR- DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, Jameson Williams, Gabe Davis, Hollywood Brown, Josh Reynolds, Calvin Austin, Laviska Shenault, Kyle Phillips
TE-Mark Andrews, Greg Dulcich, Isaiah Likely, Donald Parham, Tyler Conklin
DL-Danielle Hunter, Nick Bosa, Deforest Buckner, Jonathon Allen
LB- Micah Parsons, Jack Sanborn, Logan Wilson, Cole Holcomb, Nakobe Dean, Brian Asamoah
DB-Jeremy Chinn, Jalen Pitre, Jalen Thompson, Kam Curl, Darrick Forrest
K-Tyler Bass
-
- Degenerate
- Posts: 7557
- Joined: Sat May 28, 2011 11:53 pm
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
Good sales pitch but if I want to bridge the value gap, need something better than Breida and a 4th.Shankopotamus wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 8:52 amCurtis Samuel is a baller too. He just hasn't had a remotely accurate QB yet.Patsfan86 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 8:33 amI really dont get how anyone could trade Hollywood for peanuts like this. Just dont get it. Watch the tape. The most you can expect from rookies is flash, they arent typically consistent, and Hollywoods flashes were huge, and he was hurt. Just dont get the low value on him.Shankopotamus wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 9:10 pm Gave: Breida, Curtis Samuel, & 2021 4th
Got: Hollywood Brown
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
Series of 5 trades resulted in:
Gave: 1.08, 1.09, 1.12, 3.12 and 4.01
Got: David Montgomery, John Brown, Tyler Boyd, 1.11 (Vaughn), 2.05 (Aiyuk), 3.05 (Herbert) and a 2021 1st (likely high)
Gave: 1.08, 1.09, 1.12, 3.12 and 4.01
Got: David Montgomery, John Brown, Tyler Boyd, 1.11 (Vaughn), 2.05 (Aiyuk), 3.05 (Herbert) and a 2021 1st (likely high)
-
- Degenerate
- Posts: 8831
- Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 1:47 pm
-
- Degenerate
- Posts: 8831
- Joined: Thu May 26, 2011 1:47 pm
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
He probably thinks Breida is a RB2 who'll flirt with 1,000 yards and that Samuel will give him 75/80% of Brown's output. Then the pick is a cherry on top.Patsfan86 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 8:33 amI really dont get how anyone could trade Hollywood for peanuts like this. Just dont get it. Watch the tape. The most you can expect from rookies is flash, they arent typically consistent, and Hollywoods flashes were huge, and he was hurt. Just dont get the low value on him.Shankopotamus wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 9:10 pm Gave: Breida, Curtis Samuel, & 2021 4th
Got: Hollywood Brown
Don't get me it's a bad trade but I'm guessing that's how he saw it.
-
- Starter
- Posts: 675
- Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:40 am
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
That's how I was hoping he'd see it when I sent those assetsSpace Cowboy wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 11:46 amHe probably thinks Breida is a RB2 who'll flirt with 1,000 yards and that Samuel will give him 75/80% of Brown's output. Then the pick is a cherry on top.Patsfan86 wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 8:33 amI really dont get how anyone could trade Hollywood for peanuts like this. Just dont get it. Watch the tape. The most you can expect from rookies is flash, they arent typically consistent, and Hollywoods flashes were huge, and he was hurt. Just dont get the low value on him.Shankopotamus wrote: ↑Tue May 19, 2020 9:10 pm Gave: Breida, Curtis Samuel, & 2021 4th
Got: Hollywood Brown
Don't get me it's a bad trade but I'm guessing that's how he saw it.
12 Team Super-Flex TEP Dynasty
22 CHAMP
(2019 & 2020 Runner-Up)
1 QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, Flex, SF, 2 TE
3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 1 Flex IDP
QB- Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Gardner Minshew, Sam Ehlinger
RB- D’Andre Swift, Nick Chubb, Javonte Williams, Cam Akers, Kyren Williams, Jerome Ford, D’Ernest Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR- DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, Jameson Williams, Gabe Davis, Hollywood Brown, Josh Reynolds, Calvin Austin, Laviska Shenault, Kyle Phillips
TE-Mark Andrews, Greg Dulcich, Isaiah Likely, Donald Parham, Tyler Conklin
DL-Danielle Hunter, Nick Bosa, Deforest Buckner, Jonathon Allen
LB- Micah Parsons, Jack Sanborn, Logan Wilson, Cole Holcomb, Nakobe Dean, Brian Asamoah
DB-Jeremy Chinn, Jalen Pitre, Jalen Thompson, Kam Curl, Darrick Forrest
K-Tyler Bass
22 CHAMP
(2019 & 2020 Runner-Up)
1 QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, Flex, SF, 2 TE
3 DL, 3 LB, 3 DB, 1 Flex IDP
QB- Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Gardner Minshew, Sam Ehlinger
RB- D’Andre Swift, Nick Chubb, Javonte Williams, Cam Akers, Kyren Williams, Jerome Ford, D’Ernest Johnson, Darrell Henderson
WR- DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, Jameson Williams, Gabe Davis, Hollywood Brown, Josh Reynolds, Calvin Austin, Laviska Shenault, Kyle Phillips
TE-Mark Andrews, Greg Dulcich, Isaiah Likely, Donald Parham, Tyler Conklin
DL-Danielle Hunter, Nick Bosa, Deforest Buckner, Jonathon Allen
LB- Micah Parsons, Jack Sanborn, Logan Wilson, Cole Holcomb, Nakobe Dean, Brian Asamoah
DB-Jeremy Chinn, Jalen Pitre, Jalen Thompson, Kam Curl, Darrick Forrest
K-Tyler Bass
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
Hit accept on this one probably less than 60 seconds after it hit my inbox (about the time it took to make sure Adams wasn't dead or something).
Give - Lazard
Receive - 2x 2021 3rd
Give - Lazard
Receive - 2x 2021 3rd
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
-
- Hall of Fame
- Posts: 4801
- Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:38 pm
Re: 2020 Offseason Completed Trades
Gave: Cooper Kupp
Got: Terry McLaurin+2nd round pick (around 12-15 overall)
Got: Terry McLaurin+2nd round pick (around 12-15 overall)
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: mild and 13 guests