Why not D'Andre Swift?
Is swifts game like Kamara
Kamara entered a committee in new orleans his rookie year. We assume a committee situation in Detroit. Swift can play in the slot much like Kamara. Stafford throws alot to running backs in his history. Maybe this landing spot isn't as bad as the pundents think. Would like to hear the groups thought.
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara
The landing spot hasn't changed my opinion of Swift, but I do think he has "dropped" in rankings because of it. To me, if I have an early-mid or mid-pick I'd be thrilled at the chance to draft him now.
I would take Taylor and CEH before him, but that doesn't mean I'm extremely confident they'll be more valuable than him. I think they will, but would not be surprised if it's the other way around.
As far as Kamara, I don't really know? We chase the next Kamara like we chase the next Mahomes like we chased the next Antonio Brown like we chased the next Adrian Peterson. Some guys are just unique. Not really worth comping people to them in most cases.
I would take Taylor and CEH before him, but that doesn't mean I'm extremely confident they'll be more valuable than him. I think they will, but would not be surprised if it's the other way around.
As far as Kamara, I don't really know? We chase the next Kamara like we chase the next Mahomes like we chased the next Antonio Brown like we chased the next Adrian Peterson. Some guys are just unique. Not really worth comping people to them in most cases.
Re: Is swifts game like Kamara
Seeing as it's the Lions and Fatricia is just trying to copy Bellicheck (without the skill)
Swift is gonna be a hyped up prime Theo Riddick I fear
Swift is gonna be a hyped up prime Theo Riddick I fear
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara
Patricia may not (likely won't?) be there past this season if I had to guess. So there's that... If he leaves could be a positive or negative for Swift. They did spend a lot of capital on him though so idk. I'll draft him at 1.04 if I don't get an offer that blows me away.
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WR: Chase, Jefferson, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Olave, Dotson, Mike Evans
TE: Hock, Dulcich, Chig, Fant, Jonnu, Hurst, Everett
K: Some guy
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara
Kamara benefits greatly from Sean Payton and Drew Brees.
The better comp in this draft class to Kamara would be CEH due to situation and ability to run routes.
The better comp in this draft class to Kamara would be CEH due to situation and ability to run routes.
Re: Is swifts game like Kamara
So would it be worth trading up in the draft from 1.5 to1.3 to have your choice of Taylor or dobbins. Is swift that much better in the groups opinion. I have 1.1 and will be taking CEH.
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara
Kamara far exceeded all expectation. I expected him to be a ppr RB2 initially. There was evidence to point to it:
NO threw more to RBs than anyone else by a wide margin and Ingram (and especially AP) weren't major factors in the pass game.
I honestly have to do more digging on the Detroit landing spot, but I would take Swift at 1.05.
NO threw more to RBs than anyone else by a wide margin and Ingram (and especially AP) weren't major factors in the pass game.
I honestly have to do more digging on the Detroit landing spot, but I would take Swift at 1.05.
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara
Depends what you would have to give up and your team build and who would be left at 1.5. if Swift is there, that seems like good value
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara
If you can trade up and get Taylor I would do that.
TBH - if you like Swift, you should just trade a 3rd rounder for Kerryon. His value has fallen thru the floor and Swift/Kerryon comp very closely to one another
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara
The Lions have said that they plan on Swift being a part of their RB committee. However, I do think that Swift will prove to be the most productive one of that group and take over the "lions share" of the work load.
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara
Swift is one of the top running backs in the 2020 draft class with his excellent combination of traits. He has extensive experience
as an I back and predominantly ran zone concepts at Georgia (both inside and outside). Swift has an outstanding feel for the
tempo and pace of the zone run game with his patience, vision, and his understanding of defensive fronts both before the snap
and their fluidity after the snap. He has high-level lateral quickness, short-area burst, and acceleration with the ability to make
sharp decisive cuts at the second and third levels without losing velocity or speed momentum. My sense is Swift can be highly
effective as a receiver both out of the backfield and detached from the formation. Dalvin Cook and Alvin Kamara came to mind
when I projected Swift to the NFL. I think Swift has traits and attributes that will allow him to be used in a similar way:
Outside-zone run game as the foundation with the ability to be effective as a receiver in multiple ways.
Cossell on him ..
as an I back and predominantly ran zone concepts at Georgia (both inside and outside). Swift has an outstanding feel for the
tempo and pace of the zone run game with his patience, vision, and his understanding of defensive fronts both before the snap
and their fluidity after the snap. He has high-level lateral quickness, short-area burst, and acceleration with the ability to make
sharp decisive cuts at the second and third levels without losing velocity or speed momentum. My sense is Swift can be highly
effective as a receiver both out of the backfield and detached from the formation. Dalvin Cook and Alvin Kamara came to mind
when I projected Swift to the NFL. I think Swift has traits and attributes that will allow him to be used in a similar way:
Outside-zone run game as the foundation with the ability to be effective as a receiver in multiple ways.
Cossell on him ..
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara
I don't think you'll have "your choice" of Taylor or Dobbins at 1.03 unless it's SF/2QB, you'll likely be picking between Dobbins/Swift/Akers/WRs in most leagues. CEH and JT are going top 2 in the majority of leagues.
Re: Is swifts game like Kamara
I'd be surprised if Swift isn't the top option in that RBBC before game 6.
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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift?
https://www.detroitlions.com/news/5-thi ... ndre-swift
Fun fluff piece - but nice to know Swift is a huge Barry Sanders fan.
Fun fluff piece - but nice to know Swift is a huge Barry Sanders fan.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
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Re: Why not D'Andre Swift 1.01?
2008 and its not close. Jonathan Stewart, CJ2K, Jamal Charles, Darren McFadden, Ray Rice, Rashard Mendenhall, Felix Jones, Justin Forsett, Tim Hightower, Steve Slaton and Ryan Torain all had fantasy relevance at one time or another and most of them were very relevant at points. Kevin Smith was the only real bust in that year too.stoneghost28 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:49 pmRead their athletic profiles, watch them play, consider where they landed, and make your judgment. And I'll add, there's reason to consider Dobbins there too, and reason even for Akers, for now.JungleCatz wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:03 am So if I have 1.02 And need a RB then I take either Swift or Taylor whichever isn’t taken?
For me, I have them:
1.Swift
2. taylor
3. Dobbins
4. Akers
But I honestly would be ecstatic to land any of them, especially the big 3 if they go where I suspect they will (between around slot 15-64), which is one of the reasons I've been trying and failing repeatedly to trade down from the 1.01's and 1.02's I own for the 1.03. I would not be shocked at all if we're left wondering why we we left Dalvin Cook Version 2.0 but w/o the health concerns drop to 1.03 (in Dobbins), or if Akers turns into a top 6 RB in the league by 2021.
There's a very good reason why the big 3 in this class are already considered top 35ish start up picks. They are the cleanest top 3/4 cream of a class I've seen in decades alongside '17's McCaffrey, Fournette, Mixon, and Cook (which didn't include Hunt, and Kamara in the same tier, making '17's cream, probably the best RB class i've seen maybe ever and I've been paying attention for decades. can anyone else think of another that compares, people thought '05's class with Caddy, Ronnie, Benson etc was going to be a monster, but they all ended up disappointing).
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RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
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