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I have the 1.09 and initially thought CEH could be my pick, now I may get a more talented player in a less favorable situation
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QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
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LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
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LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01
Definitely too early to call him the 1.01. Lots left to happen.
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.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:41 amCEH isn't nearly as talented as either one.Slackalacker wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:03 pmThat kind of thinking is what landed most 1.1 owners with Fournette instead of CMC.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:48 pm Taking him at 1.01 is poor value. Simply doesn't fit the mold of the top pick in a loaded class.
Yeah, the 2017 rookie to compare CEH to is Kareem Hunt, not McCaffery
I don’t suddenly believe CEH is better than Swift/Dobbins/Taylor just because Andy Reid drafted him, just like I didn’t believe Mecole Hardman was better than DK Metcalf.
Having said that, Andy Reid turned Kareem Hunt into a first round startup pick. You can disagree with a team’s decision to take a player while respecting their ability to turn him into a monster. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.
If Indy takes Taylor here or
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01
Oh no, I agree that he landed in the optimal situation for his skillset. He can be a very good receiving back in that offense.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:51 am.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:41 amCEH isn't nearly as talented as either one.Slackalacker wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:03 pm
That kind of thinking is what landed most 1.1 owners with Fournette instead of CMC.
Yeah, the 2017 rookie to compare CEH to is Kareem Hunt, not McCaffery
I don’t suddenly believe CEH is better than Swift/Dobbins/Taylor just because Andy Reid drafted him, just like I didn’t believe Mecole Hardman was better than DK Metcalf.
Having said that, Andy Reid turned Kareem Hunt into a first round startup pick. You can disagree with a team’s decision to take a player while respecting their ability to turn him into a monster. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.
If Indy takes Taylor here or
However, I'm not boosting more talented players over a players who's being valued mostly because of his situation. That rarely works out. He's clearly a first round rookie pick now, but 1.01? I think that's crazy.
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01
Not an exact comparison by any means, but some of it smells a bit like Sony Michel situation to me. CEH stock went up for sure, but I'm not completely sold on him at 1.01. If I had two picks in the top 5-6, sure, no brainer. But I find it hard to put all my eggs in that basket. Hopefully at least one of the "big 3" winds up in a good situation to make the decision a bit easier for me. And a round of applause to the CEH truthers, undoubtedly some nice validation for you last night in the draft.
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KC certainly thought CEH was the most talented RB.
This is a strong RB class. Reid sees a better Brian Westbrook according to KC's GM. He may not ultimately be the best RB in the class but he looks to be a really safe and solid pick at the top of the fantasy draft.
This is a strong RB class. Reid sees a better Brian Westbrook according to KC's GM. He may not ultimately be the best RB in the class but he looks to be a really safe and solid pick at the top of the fantasy draft.
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01
CEH will not be number one for a good chunk of folks, but I think he is locked in as a fallback option if you really hate where Swift/Taylor/Dobbins land. It also really bumps the value of 1.06 which seemed to be the odd man out pre-draft.
I’m torn right now as a 1.01 owner. Locking in Kareem Hunt 2.0 in KC sounds pretty damn good. I could get excited about PIT, BAL or something but for some reason I’m turned off by MIA
I’m torn right now as a 1.01 owner. Locking in Kareem Hunt 2.0 in KC sounds pretty damn good. I could get excited about PIT, BAL or something but for some reason I’m turned off by MIA
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1 Q / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 SF / 3 F / 1 DT / 2 DE / 3 LB / 2 CB / 2 S / 1 F
QB: Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, James Conner, Trey Benson, Jaylen Warren, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
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LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
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RB: Zamir White, James Conner, Trey Benson, Jaylen Warren, Will Shipley
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DEVY: RB Nick Singleton PSU
2024 DEVY DEPLETED PICKS: 1.11, 1.13, 2.03, 2.05, 2.13, 3.01, 3.07, 3.10, 3.12, 4.03, 4.11, 4.15, 5.01, 5.02
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Superflex aside,, this is hilarious to read. Let's put our 'notes' (I have months worth) away, and stop pretending like the smokescreens and BS are effective means to our manhood. We were wrong. Give up the keyboard warrior stance.
Andy Reid just had his pick of the litter at RB and took a RB in round 1 to add to a top 3 scoring offense. Hours later he literally stated he felt CEH was "better then Westbrook". So yeah, I'd expect him to be a committee back in a 3 headed monster....
It doesn't match your "notes" or "rankings" or group think? Oh well. He is 1.01 or 1.02 and it would take TBB to take Swift/Dobbins for me to sway off CEH being 1.01.
Don't overthink the obvious. There were plenty of options for Reid to go at RB. He choose to use heavy draft capital at RB and on a player he is sold on.
We assume TBB is going to be a good spot for any RB, where the entire offense is influx...and will be with a rookie QB in 1-3 years. Its hardly a long term ideal situation. Andy Reid offense with Mahomes for another decade is pretty cozy.
Andy Reid just had his pick of the litter at RB and took a RB in round 1 to add to a top 3 scoring offense. Hours later he literally stated he felt CEH was "better then Westbrook". So yeah, I'd expect him to be a committee back in a 3 headed monster....
It doesn't match your "notes" or "rankings" or group think? Oh well. He is 1.01 or 1.02 and it would take TBB to take Swift/Dobbins for me to sway off CEH being 1.01.
Don't overthink the obvious. There were plenty of options for Reid to go at RB. He choose to use heavy draft capital at RB and on a player he is sold on.
We assume TBB is going to be a good spot for any RB, where the entire offense is influx...and will be with a rookie QB in 1-3 years. Its hardly a long term ideal situation. Andy Reid offense with Mahomes for another decade is pretty cozy.
Re: CEH is your new 1.01
You have me here. I am still shocked they made this investment. I still don't believe landing spot should elevate a player this drastically. I just don't see him as a 3 down back and I won't use a 1.01 for a player like that. He is a tool in Andy's toolboc
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Thank you for saying this so I didn't have to.xlur8ed wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:32 am Superflex aside,, this is hilarious to read. Let's put our 'notes' (I have months worth) away, and stop pretending like the smokescreens and BS are effective means to our manhood. We were wrong. Give up the keyboard warrior stance.
Andy Reid just had his pick of the litter at RB and took a RB in round 1 to add to a top 3 scoring offense. Hours later he literally stated he felt CEH was "better then Westbrook". So yeah, I'd expect him to be a committee back in a 3 headed monster....
It doesn't match your "notes" or "rankings" or group think? Oh well. He is 1.01 or 1.02 and it would take TBB to take Swift/Dobbins for me to sway off CEH being 1.01.
Don't overthink the obvious. There were plenty of options for Reid to go at RB. He choose to use heavy draft capital at RB and on a player he is sold on.
We assume TBB is going to be a good spot for any RB, where the entire offense is influx...and will be with a rookie QB in 1-3 years. Its hardly a long term ideal situation. Andy Reid offense with Mahomes for another decade is pretty cozy.
12 Team Standard Scoring.
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 Flex, TE, D/ST, K.
QB: L. Jackson, Winston
RB: N. Chubb, J. Jacobs, CEH, Deandre Swift,
WR: Tyreek Hill, D.J.Moore, D.J. Chark, Elijah Moore, Devonta Smith, Hollywood
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Pitts, Dan Arnold
2022 Rookie Draft - 1, 1, 1, 4
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 Flex, TE, D/ST, K.
QB: L. Jackson, Winston
RB: N. Chubb, J. Jacobs, CEH, Deandre Swift,
WR: Tyreek Hill, D.J.Moore, D.J. Chark, Elijah Moore, Devonta Smith, Hollywood
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Pitts, Dan Arnold
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01
I'm just waiting for somebody to come out and say Andy Reid is a dunce. Stop beating around the bush. Cause that's what you're implying when you say he sunk 1st round capital into an inferior RB with every single one available to him. I wanna hear somebody say they know more about RBs than Andy Reid!
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QB - Mahomes, Lawrence, Mac
RB - Etienne, Walker, Rhamondre, Javonte, Akers, CEH
WR - AJB, Waddle, Higgins, Gabe, Toney
TE - Andrews, ISJ
DL - Quinnen, Highsmith, Josh Allen
LB - Lloyd, JOK, Gay, Bush
DB - Winfield, Love, Delpit
14 Team 1QB IDP
QB - Fields, Jimmy G
RB - Henry, Kamara, Swift, Herbert
WR - Adams, Juju, Jakobi, Theilen
TE - Hock, Everett
DL - Garrett, Buckner, Sweat
LB - White, David, Okereke, Jack
DB - Budda, CJGJ, Dugger, Byard
QB - Mahomes, Lawrence, Mac
RB - Etienne, Walker, Rhamondre, Javonte, Akers, CEH
WR - AJB, Waddle, Higgins, Gabe, Toney
TE - Andrews, ISJ
DL - Quinnen, Highsmith, Josh Allen
LB - Lloyd, JOK, Gay, Bush
DB - Winfield, Love, Delpit
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QB - Fields, Jimmy G
RB - Henry, Kamara, Swift, Herbert
WR - Adams, Juju, Jakobi, Theilen
TE - Hock, Everett
DL - Garrett, Buckner, Sweat
LB - White, David, Okereke, Jack
DB - Budda, CJGJ, Dugger, Byard
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01
He always was. Also, it's your view that there's more talented players, but the NFL doesn't seem to agree on that, at least at the RB spot. Most people had CEH in their top 5, with it being one tier. I don't think it's crazy for people to take him first, his floor is safe and his ceiling is high.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:01 amOh no, I agree that he landed in the optimal situation for his skillset. He can be a very good receiving back in that offense.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:51 am.
Yeah, the 2017 rookie to compare CEH to is Kareem Hunt, not McCaffery
I don’t suddenly believe CEH is better than Swift/Dobbins/Taylor just because Andy Reid drafted him, just like I didn’t believe Mecole Hardman was better than DK Metcalf.
Having said that, Andy Reid turned Kareem Hunt into a first round startup pick. You can disagree with a team’s decision to take a player while respecting their ability to turn him into a monster. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.
If Indy takes Taylor here or
However, I'm not boosting more talented players over a players who's being valued mostly because of his situation. That rarely works out. He's clearly a first round rookie pick now, but 1.01? I think that's crazy.
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01
Yeah- I think his floor is 1.03, and that assumes Indy takes Taylor and Tampa takes Swift or Dobbins. This is Kareem Hunt before he kicked that lady. I have no issue with taking CEH 1.01. I don’t have a 1.01, but I have a 1.02 and a Superflex 1.03, and I suspect I’ll be trying to trade back a spot or two.
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Re: CEH is your new 1.01
I would still like to wait and find out the landing spots of the other top backs before even making my top 5 rankings, but this certainly elevates CEH. He comes into the conversation for 1.1 for me now. While I doubt he will be a workhorse back per se, KC doesn't use their backs as workhorses anyway. He will likely get the high majority of RB touches, whether it be rushing or receiving. He is the type of back that does well in space and this situation is the ideal fit for that. I slightly worry about TD numbers, but KC puts up so many points I could still see him reaching 10 TDs a year.
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