Flynn vs Tebow

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Re: Flynn vs Tebow

Postby 49ersFaithful80 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:42 am

JohnnyFive wrote:Flynn tears it up in practice, and he did a great job against New England in his one start. If he were drafted higher in the draft with Kolb, he would of gotten the Kolb treatment. He will be a starter somewhere next year.
the difference here is that Tebow has torn it up in GAMES. The instant he saw the field in weeks 15-17 he became the number 1 fantasy player. He doesn't need to be a polished passer because of his running abilities. If any other rookie qb performed the way Tebow did last year he'd be considered a fantasy commodity.

Tebow's upside = sky high

Matt Flynn's upside = moderate

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Re: Flynn vs Tebow

Postby Pullo Vision » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:02 am

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JohnnyFive wrote:Flynn tears it up in practice, and he did a great job against New England in his one start. If he were drafted higher in the draft with Kolb, he would of gotten the Kolb treatment. He will be a starter somewhere next year.
the difference here is that Tebow has torn it up in GAMES. The instant he saw the field in weeks 15-17 he became the number 1 fantasy player. He doesn't need to be a polished passer because of his running abilities. If any other rookie qb performed the way Tebow did last year he'd be considered a fantasy commodity.

Tebow's upside = sky high

Matt Flynn's upside = moderate
Interesting take, but it'll take longer for Tebow to hit his upside than Flynn. Flynn hits FA next year, while it'll take more than a year for Tebow to fix his mechanical hitches.
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Re: Flynn vs Tebow

Postby Madtoker » Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:06 am

49ersFaithful80 wrote:
JohnnyFive wrote:Flynn tears it up in practice, and he did a great job against New England in his one start. If he were drafted higher in the draft with Kolb, he would of gotten the Kolb treatment. He will be a starter somewhere next year.
the difference here is that Tebow has torn it up in GAMES. The instant he saw the field in weeks 15-17 he became the number 1 fantasy player. He doesn't need to be a polished passer because of his running abilities. If any other rookie qb performed the way Tebow did last year he'd be considered a fantasy commodity.

Tebow's upside = sky high

Matt Flynn's upside = moderate
Yes he does, he's a QB!! :think:

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Re: Flynn vs Tebow

Postby MARKinMI » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:13 pm

Madtoker wrote:
49ersFaithful80 wrote:
JohnnyFive wrote:Flynn tears it up in practice, and he did a great job against New England in his one start. If he were drafted higher in the draft with Kolb, he would of gotten the Kolb treatment. He will be a starter somewhere next year.
the difference here is that Tebow has torn it up in GAMES. The instant he saw the field in weeks 15-17 he became the number 1 fantasy player. He doesn't need to be a polished passer because of his running abilities. If any other rookie qb performed the way Tebow did last year he'd be considered a fantasy commodity.

Tebow's upside = sky high

Matt Flynn's upside = moderate
Yes he does, he's a QB!! :think:
Exactly... NFL coaches dont care about how many fantasy points you score. They want their QBs to complete passes, take care of the ball and make make good decisions in the red zone. Tebow may be able to pad his FF numbers with 50 or 60 rush yds and a rush td but if he cant do what NFL coaches want from a QB then he wont be on the field and if hes not on the field you dont get any FF points.

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Re: Flynn vs Tebow

Postby yumbo » Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:33 am

MARKinMI wrote:
Madtoker wrote:
49ersFaithful80 wrote: the difference here is that Tebow has torn it up in GAMES. The instant he saw the field in weeks 15-17 he became the number 1 fantasy player. He doesn't need to be a polished passer because of his running abilities. If any other rookie qb performed the way Tebow did last year he'd be considered a fantasy commodity.

Tebow's upside = sky high

Matt Flynn's upside = moderate
Yes he does, he's a QB!! :think:
Exactly... NFL coaches dont care about how many fantasy points you score. They want their QBs to complete passes, take care of the ball and make make good decisions in the red zone. Tebow may be able to pad his FF numbers with 50 or 60 rush yds and a rush td but if he cant do what NFL coaches want from a QB then he wont be on the field and if hes not on the field you dont get any FF points.
I agree. But the biggest thing people are missing here is that you have to have a Headcoach, a GM and an organization behind you, but as soon as McDaniels left, Tebow has had none of that. I don't think anyone in the organization believes in Tebow and that is a very tough situation for anyone to be in...let alone a young QB. He needs to be on another team, hopefully one that wants him and believes in him, otherwise it will just be another wasted career along the lines of a Doug Flutie, where he will never be given the chance to show just what he can do because he does not display the image of s "Prototypical QB".
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Re: Flynn vs Tebow

Postby MR ROURKE » Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:24 am

Tebow lost the only coach who would want to put in three years to attempt to make Tebow into an NFL QB. A new coach isn't going to want to spend his time on someone else's project, when the new coach could be getting his own propect to groom. The new coach won't tie his job to a flyer first round pick that the previous coach (made while making numerous other mistakes). The new coach would be stupid to do that because the last coach was fired for basic imcompetance. The new coach was hired to correct the team and not follow the mistakes of the previous coach.


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