Kenyan Drake - Signed by Oakland

[Kurt G.O.A.T.]

hmmm, now i have to work out if i want to use the franchise tag on him next season in a salary cap league. it will be $30k+ out of a $200k limit.

if he can keep doing what he's doing what option do i have? not sure what he will fetch in the free agent auction.

[Cameron Giles]

Drake had 4 TDs last week and there's talk the GM wants to retain Drake. What is his value now? Would you give, say, 1.8 for him?

I probably wouldn't trade a first for Drake at all, though I'd consider it more if Arizona brings him back and makes him the guy. He's an UFA, so who knows how that shakes out.

They have 78 million in cap room, and the GM explained his trade for Drake was done with the idea of retaining him. Had nothing to do with injuries. He said if it was about DJ and Edmonds being hurt, they would have grabbed a guy off the street, and saved the pick. They specifically targeted Drake because they felt he was a good fit. Looks like they were right.

I'm not saying they don't have the funds to re-sign him. I'm saying, I wouldn't consider paying a mid-first for him, unless his path was clear. David Johnson and Chase Edmonds will both be back. Johnson isn't healthy, but when he is, he's a better RB than Drake. Also, I don't think the Cardinals will find a taker for Johnson's contract without including a draft pick. So, I think there's a relevant chance he's back.

Drake is a good, RB. I touted him a lot in the underrated players who were being wasted threads all season. But, I would not give up a mid-first, especially in a draft like this, for him.

[Pullo Vision]

Drake is a good, RB. I touted him a lot in the underrated players who were being wasted threads all season. But, I would not give up a mid-first, especially in a draft like this, for him.

I've seen comments that people would give late 11sts or early 2nds for him, but that was before his current explosion of 6 TDs in 2 games. I was curious how the last 2 weeks would compare to the current draft class.

[Vcize]

I probably wouldn't trade a first for Drake at all, though I'd consider it more if Arizona brings him back and makes him the guy. He's an UFA, so who knows how that shakes out.

They have 78 million in cap room, and the GM explained his trade for Drake was done with the idea of retaining him. Had nothing to do with injuries. He said if it was about DJ and Edmonds being hurt, they would have grabbed a guy off the street, and saved the pick. They specifically targeted Drake because they felt he was a good fit. Looks like they were right.

I'm not saying they don't have the funds to re-sign him. I'm saying, I wouldn't consider paying a mid-first for him, unless his path was clear. David Johnson and Chase Edmonds will both be back. Johnson isn't healthy, but when he is, he's a better RB than Drake. Also, I don't think the Cardinals will find a taker for Johnson's contract without including a draft pick. So, I think there's a relevant chance he's back.

Drake is a good, RB. I touted him a lot in the underrated players who were being wasted threads all season. But, I would not give up a mid-first, especially in a draft like this, for him.

I'm not saying I would give up a mid-1st but David Johnson has never in his career looked as good actually running the football as Drake has since coming to Arizona. I realize DJ is a tremendous receiver (Drake is no slouch in that regard either). Any chance they would consider moving DJ to slot WR given the style of offense that they run and DJ's profile as a terrific WR but very average runner?

[FantasyFreak]

I probably wouldn't trade a first for Drake at all, though I'd consider it more if Arizona brings him back and makes him the guy. He's an UFA, so who knows how that shakes out.

They have 78 million in cap room, and the GM explained his trade for Drake was done with the idea of retaining him. Had nothing to do with injuries. He said if it was about DJ and Edmonds being hurt, they would have grabbed a guy off the street, and saved the pick. They specifically targeted Drake because they felt he was a good fit. Looks like they were right.

I'm not saying they don't have the funds to re-sign him. I'm saying, I wouldn't consider paying a mid-first for him, unless his path was clear. David Johnson and Chase Edmonds will both be back. Johnson isn't healthy, but when he is, he's a better RB than Drake. Also, I don't think the Cardinals will find a taker for Johnson's contract without including a draft pick. So, I think there's a relevant chance he's back.

Drake is a good, RB. I touted him a lot in the underrated players who were being wasted threads all season. But, I would not give up a mid-first, especially in a draft like this, for him.

I don't agree, and I don't think the Cards staff does, either. Not at this point in their careers. I wouldn't trade a mid first for him, but I also wouldn't trade him for much less.

[Cameron Giles]

I don't agree, and I don't think the Cards staff does, either. Not at this point in their careers. I wouldn't trade a mid first for him, but I also wouldn't trade him for much less.

The Cardinals staff agrees that Kenyan Drake is better than what David Johnson is right now, which is not healthy.

Johnson didn't turn into a bum overnight. He's good at football and had some tough situations in Arizona the last few years. If he is healthy, there's not much Drake does better than him.

[Vcize]

I don't agree, and I don't think the Cards staff does, either. Not at this point in their careers. I wouldn't trade a mid first for him, but I also wouldn't trade him for much less.

The Cardinals staff agrees that Kenyan Drake is better than what David Johnson is right now, which is not healthy.

Johnson didn't turn into a bum overnight. He's good at football and had some tough situations in Arizona the last few years. If he is healthy, there's not much Drake does better than him.

This is fantasy football. Guys turn into bums overnight all the time. Combine that with Drake looking infinitely better in that "tough situation" than David Johnson and Johnson being a 28 year old RB that was never really a great actual runner in the first place, and it's not really a stretch to think that Drake will be the guy next year.

[FantasyFreak]

I don't agree, and I don't think the Cards staff does, either. Not at this point in their careers. I wouldn't trade a mid first for him, but I also wouldn't trade him for much less.

The Cardinals staff agrees that Kenyan Drake is better than what David Johnson is right now, which is not healthy.

Johnson didn't turn into a bum overnight. He's good at football and had some tough situations in Arizona the last few years. If he is healthy, there's not much Drake does better than him.

He didn't look good as a runner before he got hurt. I have both guys on the same team, and I can say objectively that going into next year, there is a strong chance Drake does almost everything better than Johnson at this stage of their careers, even if both guys are healthy. Johnson is assumed to be hurt by people using it as the reason for his lack of playing time/production. He hasn't been on the injury report for some time. He may not be 100 percent, but he's certainly not hurt to the point where he's inactive.

Keim stated that they targeted Drake with the idea of retaining him, and that the injuries at the time were not the only reason they got him when he was made available. He's also non committal on DJ's return. It's highly unlikely that if Drake is re signed, that he isn't their lead back next year, IMO.

[baldwin415]

Is he worth giving up a late first for? How would you value him? There's a lot of unknowns right now, but might be worth the risk if he ends up going somewhere advantageous.

[patrickchula]

Tough....I was thinking the same thing. But its a gamble right now. I think Kingsbury likes him over DJ. So if Drake resigns and DJ is cut, then that's a good trade I think. Butttttt if both of those things don't happen its risky.

Personally I'm hoping that Kareem Hunt signs somewhere this year....but I think he'll head back to Cleveland for 2020.

[bjd5211]

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[eNdblu]

Tough....I was thinking the same thing. But its a gamble right now. I think Kingsbury likes him over DJ. So if Drake resigns and DJ is cut, then that's a good trade I think. Butttttt if both of those things don't happen its risky.

Personally I'm hoping that Kareem Hunt signs somewhere this year....but I think he'll head back to Cleveland for 2020.

Kareem Hunt is an RFA. I think it's pretty much a lock he'll be back in CLE next year

[Sfoster2625]

Thinking of targeting him and trying to get a general consensus of what he’s worth

[rmacattack6]

Completed this trade recently in 10 team PPR:
Give: Drake and Parker
Get: 2021 1st (top 5) and Parris Campbell

So approximately an early 2 is what the market valued him at.

[Packerland]

With all his hype i'm surprised he didn't go for a mid to late 1. I would only buy him for an early to mid second.