Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

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Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby kmbryant09 » Tue May 07, 2019 6:03 am

I own Keenan Allen, have been in casual talks with the Diggs owner on a potential swap.

I definitely value Keenan higher, but how much higher? I'm looking to add some depth, particularly to my WR core, and the early 2nd round is a good place to be.

The Diggs owner has 2.04, 2.05, and 2.10 (I have pick 2.06 but might be packaging it + future 2nd for M. Brown). Our draft is on-going and 2.03 is currently on-the-clock, with the following players still available:

-Deebo Samuel
-K. Murray
-A. Isabella
-JJ Arcega-Whiteside
-N. Fant
-D. Singletary

Should I try to trade Allen for Diggs and a combo of these 2nd round picks?
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WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby Gator Sens » Tue May 07, 2019 6:15 am

I think it's unlikely, but I would ask for a 1st in 2020 and see how badly he wants Allen.

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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby AresGodOWar » Tue May 07, 2019 6:19 am

I thought Diggs was worth more. My startup last week Diggs went 30th , I got Allen 40th
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WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
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QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Tue May 07, 2019 6:28 am

I have them only a few spots different in my dynasty rankings, with KA slightly higher than Diggs. I think the gap is larger for this upcoming year, but I think dynasty wise, with Diggs being a couple of years younger than KA, that puts them pretty even long term.

I'd try for a 2020 1st, but Diggs and an early to mid 2nd is probably about right.
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RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby abloom » Tue May 07, 2019 6:29 am

start with a 2020 1st, assuming thats rejected, I think either the 2.04 or 2.05 with those current WRs available is good.

IF 2.03 doesn't take one of those WRs, I'd be happy to make the trade for either 2.04 or 2.05 and grab 2 of the 3 WRs. If a WR goes 2.03 I'd want the 2.04 to take your favorite of those 2 WRs remaining.
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W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
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T: Kelce, Pitts
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W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue May 07, 2019 6:59 am

I'd try Allen for Diggs + 2.04 + 2.05 or Allen + 2.06 for Diggs + 2020 1st.
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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby kmbryant09 » Tue May 07, 2019 7:01 am

Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll see where talks go. I doubt I can pry a 2020 1st from him, this owner loves future 1sts and values them higher than anyone else in our league.

He also just recently acquired Diggs, 2.04, 2.05 by trading away M. Evans. I don't think I could get that exact return, so I might have to settle for Diggs, 2.04, and 2.10 or something - is that worth it (even if I have to throw in 3.10 or something)?
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QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich

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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby FantasyFoosball » Tue May 07, 2019 7:05 am

Yes, KA for Diggs, 2.04 and 2.10 would be fine if it came to that. Evans > KA.
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RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby abloom » Tue May 07, 2019 7:06 am

kmbryant09 wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:01 am Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll see where talks go. I doubt I can pry a 2020 1st from him, this owner loves future 1sts and values them higher than anyone else in our league.

He also just recently acquired Diggs, 2.04, 2.05 by trading away M. Evans. I don't think I could get that exact return, so I might have to settle for Diggs, 2.04, and 2.10 or something - is that worth it (even if I have to throw in 3.10 or something)?
its a negotiation start off higher and see if you can meet in the middle. I think anything beyond Diggs + 2.04 is great.
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W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

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R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
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W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby jwb32 » Tue May 07, 2019 7:33 am

I doubt anyone is adding to Diggs here. I certainly wouldn't.
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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby Tyrober » Tue May 07, 2019 8:04 am

In a startup I think I would take Diggs more Allen. Now that's just me but it sounds like the other guy would prefer Allen. If you can grab a couple of those 2nds or add your 2.06 and try to squeeze a 2020 1st out of him that would be a huge win for me

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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby Goddard » Tue May 07, 2019 8:07 am

Not a huge fan of the players taken in the 2nd round of this draft, so I'm not sure Diggs and a 2nd would be enough. If you can get Diggs and a 2020 1st, then I'd probably take it.

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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby Titans95 » Tue May 07, 2019 8:10 am

kmbryant09 wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 7:01 am Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll see where talks go. I doubt I can pry a 2020 1st from him, this owner loves future 1sts and values them higher than anyone else in our league.

He also just recently acquired Diggs, 2.04, 2.05 by trading away M. Evans. I don't think I could get that exact return, so I might have to settle for Diggs, 2.04, and 2.10 or something - is that worth it (even if I have to throw in 3.10 or something)?
Then IMO there probably isn't a deal to be done. I would never have sold Evans for Diggs+2nds so now he will likely be overvaluing Diggs in any trade involving him. KA>Diggs

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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Tue May 07, 2019 9:20 am

I'd be pretty happy with Diggs and Deebo or Isabella. I don't think think there is much, if any, gap from KA to Diggs.
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Re: Difference between Keenan & Diggs?

Postby Fantasy>>>Reality » Tue May 07, 2019 9:40 pm

I have Diggs higher than KA so anything on top is a win in my books. That said, Id try and squeeze as much on top as you could.
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