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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby Ice » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:43 pm

Phaded wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:40 pm Does anyone have his 10-yard split?
I would be more curious in that.

Plus, did he do agility drills?
Haven't seen but you can bet teams will be looking at that 10 yard number during site visits.
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby Titans95 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:45 pm

Didn't even realize this but looking at Kareem Hunt's combine number's they look identical to Jacobs....5'10 216lbs ran a 4.62.....If I'm not mistaken Hunt either had the highest or was right behind kamara for most 20+ yard runs in his rookie season

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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby cazzie33 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:52 pm

Ice wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:18 pm Well, at least he ran faster than Emmitt Smith did. :roll:
Yea , but Emmit's like 50 yrs old :lol:

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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby Ice » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:54 pm

Titans95 wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:45 pm Didn't even realize this but looking at Kareem Hunt's combine number's they look identical to Jacobs....5'10 216lbs ran a 4.62.....If I'm not mistaken Hunt either had the highest or was right behind kamara for most 20+ yard runs in his rookie season
It is all about Burst and Hunt has a ton and Jacobs burst jumps off the page on tape. His 40 time won't matter much to the scouts at his size. They will just look at that outstanding stiff arm and have synergistic thoughts running through their heads.

K. Johnson didn't run at the combine and ran 4.58 at his pro day and everyone around here loves that guy.
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby Ice » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:54 pm

cazzie33 wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:52 pm
Ice wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:18 pm Well, at least he ran faster than Emmitt Smith did. :roll:
Yea , but Emmit's like 50 yrs old :lol:
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby Titans95 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:58 pm

Ice wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:54 pm
Titans95 wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:45 pm Didn't even realize this but looking at Kareem Hunt's combine number's they look identical to Jacobs....5'10 216lbs ran a 4.62.....If I'm not mistaken Hunt either had the highest or was right behind kamara for most 20+ yard runs in his rookie season
It is all about Burst and Hunt has a ton and Jacobs burst jumps off the page on tape. His 40 time won't matter much to the scouts at his size. They will just look at that outstanding stiff arm and have synergistic thoughts running through their heads.
Just making a point that the 40 time really isn't a big deal as long as your under the threshold. IF he was running like a 4.75-4.8 I'd start to get really concerned.

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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby Hottoddies » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:04 pm

Straight line speed is a skill that most RBs rarely use. It's more about what you do in short areas. It's just not a deal breaker.
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby Jason3123 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:12 pm

That broad jump would’ve been the worst of the RB group at the combine.

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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby tresskid84 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:14 pm

Ice wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:54 pm
Titans95 wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:45 pm Didn't even realize this but looking at Kareem Hunt's combine number's they look identical to Jacobs....5'10 216lbs ran a 4.62.....If I'm not mistaken Hunt either had the highest or was right behind kamara for most 20+ yard runs in his rookie season
It is all about Burst and Hunt has a ton and Jacobs burst jumps off the page on tape. His 40 time won't matter much to the scouts at his size. They will just look at that outstanding stiff arm and have synergistic thoughts running through their heads.

K. Johnson didn't run at the combine and ran 4.58 at his pro day and everyone around here loves that guy.
I do think it could affect his draft position, but I agree, it will have zero bearing on his success in the league. The lower broad number was more surprising to me than his 40 time, but it wasn't dramatically low or anything, just below average (and if his groin is indeed bothering him, that could very well account for the disparity.)
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby CGW » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:29 pm

Good news, more of a bargain for me when he slides.
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:31 pm

Hottoddies wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:04 pm Straight line speed is a skill that most RBs rarely use. It's more about what you do in short areas. It's just not a deal breaker.
Broad jump was terrible, too. These numbers are concerning. He has no real production, and now he's confirmed he's a subpar athlete stepping on to an NFL field. He may still be a good football player, but it's a lot to give him the benefit of the doubt at every turn when sinking a high pick into him.
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby jenkins.math » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:34 pm

Jacobs is an example of classic pre-draft (and late season) rookie hype. I'd wager a fair amount most didn't even know who this guy was until December, and then he vaulted himself into 1.01 territory.

2019 has been viewed as a weak RB class for a while now, yet as soon as the calendar struck 2019, the rookie hype train started rolling. Happens every single year.

This class is what it has always been: No clear cut number 1 guy and very landing spot dependent. Nothing about the combine and pro days has changed that for me.

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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby Titans95 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:36 pm

If people are knocking Jacobs down their board purely because of subpar 40 and a bad broad jump then it's likely the people that that think Metcalf is the next coming of Jesus because of his combine numbers.

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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:43 pm

It's all about the numbers guys. Ignore Emmith Smith, Arian Foster, Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, Russel Wilson, Drew Brees, et al who were too small, to short, to slow to play their position. Heck, as some noted above, some of the best RBs in the game today have not run sub 4.5 40s.

But by all means keep picking the gym warriors with elite measureables and let me snap up talent, instinct, skill, heart, intelligence.

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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby Jason3123 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:20 pm

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:43 pm It's all about the numbers guys. Ignore Emmith Smith, Arian Foster, Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, Russel Wilson, Drew Brees, et al who were too small, to short, to slow to play their position. Heck, as some noted above, some of the best RBs in the game today have not run sub 4.5 40s.

But by all means keep picking the gym warriors with elite measureables and let me snap up talent, instinct, skill, heart, intelligence.
I get your point but Jacobs also didn’t produce anything in college. Emmitt Smith had as many yards as a Freshman as Jacobs had in his 3 years. So now you have poor measurables plus poor production.


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