Dak/Tyreek/Kittle for Wentz/Julio/Engram (2QB)

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Dak/Tyreek/Kittle
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83%
Wentz/Julio/Engram
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6%
Even
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11%
 
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Dak/Tyreek/Kittle for Wentz/Julio/Engram (2QB)

Postby keebs3 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:13 pm

2 QB league who would win?

I could sub in Wilson for Wentz and/or H. Henry for Engram as well. I'd add John Kelly since he is also the Gurley owner.
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Re: Dak/Tyreek/Kittle for Wentz/Julio/Engram (2QB)

Postby LMS123 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:26 pm

I’d do it, Mayfield takes over as your #2 qb and you get an upgrade at wr and te
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Re: Dak/Tyreek/Kittle for Wentz/Julio/Engram (2QB)

Postby FantasyFoosball » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:52 pm

Lol. This isn’t close. The other owner would instantly decline it and wouldn’t even bother to counter.

I’m confused as to what the person was thinking that said this is even.... they must have misread something.
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TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
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Re: Dak/Tyreek/Kittle for Wentz/Julio/Engram (2QB)

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:04 pm

If you can pull it off, go for it. Id rather give up Wilson than Wentz fwiw

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Re: Dak/Tyreek/Kittle for Wentz/Julio/Engram (2QB)

Postby keebs3 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:25 pm

Is it closer if I took off the TEs altogether? Is the gap between Wentz and Dak that much smaller than Julio and Tyreek?
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WR: Davante Adams | Mike Evans | Julio Jones -Sammy Watkins | John Brown | DeVante Parker | Deebo Samuel | Nelson Agholor | Terry McLaurin
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Re: Dak/Tyreek/Kittle for Wentz/Julio/Engram (2QB)

Postby homer » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:48 pm

I would rather have Dak and Hill

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Re: Dak/Tyreek/Kittle for Wentz/Julio/Engram (2QB)

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:02 pm

keebs3 wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:25 pm Is it closer if I took off the TEs altogether? Is the gap between Wentz and Dak that much smaller than Julio and Tyreek?
I'd prefer Wentz and Julio over Dak and Tyreek in that case in a 2 QB league

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Re: Dak/Tyreek/Kittle for Wentz/Julio/Engram (2QB)

Postby vixen » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:04 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:02 pm
keebs3 wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:25 pm Is it closer if I took off the TEs altogether? Is the gap between Wentz and Dak that much smaller than Julio and Tyreek?
I'd prefer Wentz and Julio over Dak and Tyreek in that case in a 2 QB league
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Re: Dak/Tyreek/Kittle for Wentz/Julio/Engram (2QB)

Postby AresGodOWar » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:48 am

keebs3 wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:13 pm 2 QB league who would win?

I could sub in Wilson for Wentz and/or H. Henry for Engram as well. I'd add John Kelly since he is also the Gurley owner.
I would take the Hill side pretty easy , I'm about even on Wilson and Wentz so keep the younger QB and give him Wilson , Keep H.Henry and give him Engram.

Dak =< Wilson
Hill > Julio
Kittle >>>>> Engram
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TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

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Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:13 am

FantasyFoosball wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:52 pm Lol. This isn’t close. The other owner would instantly decline it and wouldn’t even bother to counter.

I’m confused as to what the person was thinking that said this is even.... they must have misread something.
Wentz is miles above Dak in 2QB in my opinion. I loooooove Kittle, but if Engram can get back to his rookie year or better, this really isn't as bad as you make it. You tend to have these types of responses a lot. I dig your over the top style, but my counter would be another good player on top. I think the Wentz owner needs to add, but in 2QB, Wentz is the best piece in this deal by far.
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Postby FantasyFoosball » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:09 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:13 am
FantasyFoosball wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:52 pm Lol. This isn’t close. The other owner would instantly decline it and wouldn’t even bother to counter.

I’m confused as to what the person was thinking that said this is even.... they must have misread something.
Wentz is miles above Dak in 2QB in my opinion. I loooooove Kittle, but if Engram can get back to his rookie year or better, this really isn't as bad as you make it. You tend to have these types of responses a lot. I dig your over the top style, but my counter would be another good player on top. I think the Wentz owner needs to add, but in 2QB, Wentz is the best piece in this deal by far.
I agree Wentz is way ahead of Dak, but having Cooper for a full year, Gallup in his second season, and Zeke, I think Dak makes a pretty decent leap forward and closes that gap a little.

Hill >> Julio, and that's not taking into account that he's six years younger than Julio.

Kittle >>>>> Engram, I don't see Engram getting back to his rookie year, he has a noodle-armed QB in Manning, plus OBJ and Barkley to contend with for targets.... And I think Kittle overtakes Ertz this year and becomes the TE2.

Maybe I was a tiny bit over the top, but even in a 2QB league it's really not that close for me.
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WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
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DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

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Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:15 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:13 am
FantasyFoosball wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:52 pm Lol. This isn’t close. The other owner would instantly decline it and wouldn’t even bother to counter.

I’m confused as to what the person was thinking that said this is even.... they must have misread something.
Wentz is miles above Dak in 2QB in my opinion. I loooooove Kittle, but if Engram can get back to his rookie year or better, this really isn't as bad as you make it. You tend to have these types of responses a lot. I dig your over the top style, but my counter would be another good player on top. I think the Wentz owner needs to add, but in 2QB, Wentz is the best piece in this deal by far.
wentz isnt miles ahead of dak, he just isnt. kittle is clearly elite and engram is a very good tight end with elite potential, and hill vs julio is even on talent and production but a giant edge to hill on age and situation. i too think this offer is not too good as is. asking for what the other owner likely considers the TE1 and WR1 in a deal for a slight qb upgrade makes no sense.
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Re: Dak/Tyreek/Kittle for Wentz/Julio/Engram (2QB)

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:38 am

Hill >> Julio
Prescott < Wentz
Kittle >> Engram

Best ball makes Hill more valuable, as you get his blow-up games without the risk of 8-pt games. It also narrows the gap between Prescott and Wentz. I think the Hill + Kittle side is way better here.
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Re: Dak/Tyreek/Kittle for Wentz/Julio/Engram (2QB)

Postby Goddard » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:50 am

In a 2QB league, this is actually close. Wentz is the best piece in this deal and people forget he was a top 3 pick in this format a year ago. Hill and Kittle are obviously worth more than Julio and Engram, making it very close. Since OP already has Wilson and Baker, I'd make the trade. But if Dak was going to be his QB1, I would have passed.


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