Lamar Jackson time? (aka Lamar vs. Gerinomo)
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Man, this guy makes me want to overpay for Geronimo.
I’m thinking I send OBJ straight up for Geronimo...
Or do I need to add something to the OBJ side to make it fair?
I’m thinking I send OBJ straight up for Geronimo...
Or do I need to add something to the OBJ side to make it fair?
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Elroypedro wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:09 pm I know. Not a good look for this forum at all that posters are so sloppy and uninformed of the very basics.
- everyone else here AND in your league would rather have Lamar Jackson, a QB with immense upside, than a middling Packers WR who has lost his job and is on IR #basicsElroypedro wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:21 pm No. This is walking into a bar for trivia night and when I answer 1821 as the year Napoleon died everyone there insists together how could that be if he starred in that movie with his friend Pedro in 2004? And then when I order a drink they tell me all they have is bags of paint to huff. I’m not joining in with the paint huffing just because everyone else here is
- Lamar Jackson has a chance to improve his value immensely this season... as opposed to a middling Packers WR who has lost his job and is on IR #basics
- your talking about Napoleon to make your point in a fantasy football forum, and then in the same breath claiming you're not the one huffing paint. that's basic alright.
- and you're rude to boot. you suck! #basics
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"That guy on your team sucks, this guy on my team is awesome. I'll trade you this awesome dude for your sucky one...... what NO? Are you an idiot.... you'll never win any league I don't know why you even play dynasty, you should go back to redraft you amateur."
Ainslie-Rachlin Law, "Our decisions... are guided by the perceived values at the moment of the decision - not by the potential final value."
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Everyone is allowed to have their own values on players and trades. It’s completely natural that not everyone will agree with each other. However, it’s pretty immature to come to an established dynasty fantasy football forum, post about a trade where you clearly value Lamar Jackson over Geronimo (or you wouldn’t be trying to trade for him). And then you continue to play it up that Geronimo this Geronimo that, but Jackson sucks Jackson sucks. You use one set of rules to say how great Geronimo will be, but you completely different when saying how bad Jackson will be...
And then...when everyone else disagrees with you (in this forum, the other owner in your league, and likely yourself if you are looking to make that trade) then you act like a child and throw a fit about how everyone else is wrong and how everyone else is misinformed.
It really is funny to watch how feverishly you defend Geronimo’s value while saying how bad Lamar is...and yet you still want to trade the GREAT Geronimo for the HORRID Lamar. I don’t get it.
Either you are a child who can’t admit what everyone else already sees. Or you are hoping the other owner sees this thread and changes his mind (which obviously has backfired for you). Or you are simply a troll.
I can get on board with you being high on a player and being low on another player. Completely acceptable. I can even get on board with you defending why you feel that way and debating against others who disagree. Still good. But where this all falls apart for you is where you are trying to trade the guy that you value so much for the guy who has no future in the NFL.
At first I thought this just reeked of some reverse psychology...but after reading through all your posts...that’s giving you too much credit. I think you are too immature to handle the vast majority of people disagreeing with you. Or you are trolling.
And then...when everyone else disagrees with you (in this forum, the other owner in your league, and likely yourself if you are looking to make that trade) then you act like a child and throw a fit about how everyone else is wrong and how everyone else is misinformed.
It really is funny to watch how feverishly you defend Geronimo’s value while saying how bad Lamar is...and yet you still want to trade the GREAT Geronimo for the HORRID Lamar. I don’t get it.
Either you are a child who can’t admit what everyone else already sees. Or you are hoping the other owner sees this thread and changes his mind (which obviously has backfired for you). Or you are simply a troll.
I can get on board with you being high on a player and being low on another player. Completely acceptable. I can even get on board with you defending why you feel that way and debating against others who disagree. Still good. But where this all falls apart for you is where you are trying to trade the guy that you value so much for the guy who has no future in the NFL.
At first I thought this just reeked of some reverse psychology...but after reading through all your posts...that’s giving you too much credit. I think you are too immature to handle the vast majority of people disagreeing with you. Or you are trolling.
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Did we gloss over the 'Allison would clearly go over LJ in startups' when ADP says otherwise and it's not somehow just this forum? Either way I'm thoroughly entertained here.
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QB: Brady, Wilson
RB: Fournette, cook, mixon, Ajayi, Gordon, Ware, Joe Williams, Hunt, Martin
WR: Evans, TY, Dez, Sammy, Coleman, Diggs, Ross, White, Fitz
TE: Watson, Eifert, Bennet
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Fournette, Zeke, Mixon, mcCaffrey, Joe Williams, Mcnichols, Mack, Martin
Cooper, Evans, Watkins, Coleman, Diggs, Martavis, Chad Williams, Parker
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I would agree but I grabbed Jackson as a free agent not even forced to use a waiver in a 12 team PPR league with large rosters, and Allison was still rostered. Lots of people are short sighted I guess. I understand too that Jackson isn't worth a ton either.Bot101 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:48 pmUh thats a terrible offer. I would have rejected it too.Elroypedro wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:44 pm I tried to give Geronimo for him in a 1 QB league right now but got denied somehow. Thought that was a big premium but guess not
12 Team UNLIMITED Keeper / 23 Roster 1.0-PPR: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/RB/TE, 1 K, 1 DEF 2 IR - 11th Year
QB: L. Jackson, J. Browning
RB: Aaron Jones, D'Ernest Johnson, E. Mitchell, Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Williams, Alexander Mattison, K. Miller, P. Taylor
WR: R. Doubs, G. Pickens, Christian Kirk, Juju, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, K. Boutte
TE: Z. Ertz, C. Okonkwo, Trey McBride, Tucker Kraft
K: T. Bass, J. Moody
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QB: L. Jackson, J. Browning
RB: Aaron Jones, D'Ernest Johnson, E. Mitchell, Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Williams, Alexander Mattison, K. Miller, P. Taylor
WR: R. Doubs, G. Pickens, Christian Kirk, Juju, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, K. Boutte
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Lamar has top 3 upside as qb, and he also has a decent weekly floor with rushing.
Allison has flex value
which one would I rather?
Allison has flex value
which one would I rather?
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Dude, Jackson plays for Baltimore. The QB there is Flacco. Why are you talking about Cousins and Brees?!?!?!Elroypedro wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:17 pmI value Jackson as a taxi squad Rookie who has not started a game with a ton of risk who could hopefully develop into a backup to Cousins starting in a year or 2 when Brees retires.grooner wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:10 pmI agree, it's a terrible offer. You clearly value Jackson more also or you wouldn't have made the offer.Elroypedro wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:57 pm
Not sure if serious?
GMO is a solid flex WR when back from his minor injury with some situation concerns starting next season that take his value down but not too low.
Jackson is a complete lottery flyer taxi squad type guy who hasn’t started a game in the NFL yet.
Geronimo is definitely worth more, in a startup he would go higher for sure, though not way higher due to his current IR designation(only a 6 week recovery, available for NFL playoffs), and because of RFA situation in GB next year.
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)
QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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Dude, take a deep breath. OK, another one. One more... I'm not trying to be a dick (which you were). I don't own either guy but think that was a bad trade offer.Elroypedro wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:04 pmIts because Allison is a clear overpay for Jackson. Not sure what bizarre paint based substance the people in this thread are smoking but it is either that destroying their brain cells or they just don’t play in good dynasty leagues and can get away with being so sloppy and uninformed. Either way it isn’t a good look for this forum
When a whole forum is disagreeing with you, then you might be wrong. ARod can make a lot of guys look good for short windows. Allison isn't some special talent. If he was why did the Pack draft THREE more rookie WRs???
Lamar Jackson hasn't proven anything yet, but neither have any of the 2019 1st round picks and you won't get one of those for Allison either. Potential. It's valued in dynasty. Running QBs have it in spades if they can become starters in this league.
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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They’re the other two QBs on his team.jetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:13 amDude, Jackson plays for Baltimore. The QB there is Flacco. Why are you talking about Cousins and Brees?!?!?!Elroypedro wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:17 pmI value Jackson as a taxi squad Rookie who has not started a game with a ton of risk who could hopefully develop into a backup to Cousins starting in a year or 2 when Brees retires.
Geronimo is definitely worth more, in a startup he would go higher for sure, though not way higher due to his current IR designation(only a 6 week recovery, available for NFL playoffs), and because of RFA situation in GB next year.
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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
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TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
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$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
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Then WHY are you trying to acquire him? And why are you interested in "overpaying for him"? What is special about him tht you would "overpay" for? Enlighten me, because I'm confused...Elroypedro wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:32 pmThere is a small chance that Jackson ever becomes startable in a 1QB format. Small chance. Allison is already a usable piece with a short term injury that was showing solid WR2 numbers. Not potential. But actual numbersbdynomite wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:30 pmYou're probably just trolling here but as (everyone) others have said, terrible offer. This is dynasty. No Lamar Jackson owners drafted him thinking he'd see much if any time this season. He's a bit of a gamble but has as high as top 5 upside with his skill set if he continues to develop. Geronimo barely starts for his own team; I wouldn't even love rolling him out on a bye week and I think he's already hit his ceiling. Oh yeah, and he's on IRElroypedro wrote: ↑Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:04 pm
Its because Allison is a clear overpay for Jackson. Not sure what bizarre paint based substance the people in this thread are smoking but it is either that destroying their brain cells or they just don’t play in good dynasty leagues and can get away with being so sloppy and uninformed. Either way it isn’t a good look for this forum
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)
QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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lol. My bad. Didn't look at his sig...M-Dub wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:21 amThey’re the other two QBs on his team.jetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:13 am Dude, Jackson plays for Baltimore. The QB there is Flacco. Why are you talking about Cousins and Brees?!?!?!
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)
QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
PS: I often don't revisit a thread after posting. Send me a message if you ever want further thoughts on a comment I made.
QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)
QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
PS: I often don't revisit a thread after posting. Send me a message if you ever want further thoughts on a comment I made.
QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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