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Just sold Conner and my 2020 2nd for a 2019 1st and 2020 1st (both middle projected).
I have a lot of rb depth, and was too easy to cash out while only investing a 4th round pick in him.
I have a lot of rb depth, and was too easy to cash out while only investing a 4th round pick in him.
10 team, 2 qb, .5 ppr, 5 pt passing td, 6 pts rush/rec tds (7 qb roster max):
QB: A. Rodgers, D. Prescott, M. Stafford, M. Mariotta
RB: T. Gurley, S. Barkley, A. Kamara, K. Johnson, M. Sanders, M. Ingram, I. Smith, J. Jackson, S. Ware, C. Grant, C. Warren, Dex. Williams
WR: M. Evans, K. Allen, J. Smith-Schuster, C. Sutton, D. Jackson, D. Funchess, D Hamilton, JJAW, Tay. Taylor, T. Quinn
TE: Z. Ertz, OJ Howard, D. Goedert, M. Andrews
DEF: Minnesota
2020 Picks 1,3,4
QB: A. Rodgers, D. Prescott, M. Stafford, M. Mariotta
RB: T. Gurley, S. Barkley, A. Kamara, K. Johnson, M. Sanders, M. Ingram, I. Smith, J. Jackson, S. Ware, C. Grant, C. Warren, Dex. Williams
WR: M. Evans, K. Allen, J. Smith-Schuster, C. Sutton, D. Jackson, D. Funchess, D Hamilton, JJAW, Tay. Taylor, T. Quinn
TE: Z. Ertz, OJ Howard, D. Goedert, M. Andrews
DEF: Minnesota
2020 Picks 1,3,4
Re: Conner dynasty value
IDK if I would have done that tbh
only because I'm high on Connor.
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR 1TE, Super Flex, 2 Flex Spots. 10 Team Dynasty PPR
2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs
QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF
2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
“Not good enough to count on as a starter, but too good to drop, so they clog my bench.” dlf_mikeh
2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs
QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF
2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
“Not good enough to count on as a starter, but too good to drop, so they clog my bench.” dlf_mikeh
Re: Conner dynasty value
http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-ste ... tions-more
How does Bell become an unrestricted free agent?
If the Steelers do not place the franchise or transition tag on him this offseason, Bell will become an unrestricted free agent at the start of the new league year in March. That is the case whether he plays seven or zero games this season.
Why is that the case?
Bell is in his sixth NFL season. He has more than played out his four-year rookie contract. Once he isn't under the restriction of a tag, he's open for business. And that's his goal.
How does Bell become an unrestricted free agent?
If the Steelers do not place the franchise or transition tag on him this offseason, Bell will become an unrestricted free agent at the start of the new league year in March. That is the case whether he plays seven or zero games this season.
Why is that the case?
Bell is in his sixth NFL season. He has more than played out his four-year rookie contract. Once he isn't under the restriction of a tag, he's open for business. And that's his goal.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
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Two questions on this:ArrylT wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:18 am http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-ste ... tions-more
How does Bell become an unrestricted free agent?
If the Steelers do not place the franchise or transition tag on him this offseason, Bell will become an unrestricted free agent at the start of the new league year in March. That is the case whether he plays seven or zero games this season.
Why is that the case?
Bell is in his sixth NFL season. He has more than played out his four-year rookie contract. Once he isn't under the restriction of a tag, he's open for business. And that's his goal.
1. If he doesn't play this year can't they franchise him again as a 2nd franchise tag or would it have to be a 3rd franchise tag?
2. Is there any scenario where if they can't or choose not to franchise him again that they don't transition tag him?
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Re: Conner dynasty value
If he doesn't sign this year, Pittsburgh could tag him for the same amount as this year (14.5) and essentially control where he goes. They could tag him and say we'll only trade you to these teams (if you sign your tender) or you don't play at all. It would prevent him from going to a division or conference foe, which is smart. If anything, this is the big reason why Bell should sign next week. Otherwise, they are screwed.thebeast wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:25 amTwo questions on this:ArrylT wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:18 am http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-ste ... tions-more
How does Bell become an unrestricted free agent?
If the Steelers do not place the franchise or transition tag on him this offseason, Bell will become an unrestricted free agent at the start of the new league year in March. That is the case whether he plays seven or zero games this season.
Why is that the case?
Bell is in his sixth NFL season. He has more than played out his four-year rookie contract. Once he isn't under the restriction of a tag, he's open for business. And that's his goal.
1. If he doesn't play this year can't they franchise him again as a 2nd franchise tag or would it have to be a 3rd franchise tag?
2. Is there any scenario where if they can't or choose not to franchise him again that they don't transition tag him?
If he plays, then they would have to use a QB franchise tender to tag him a 3rd time. That amount is worth $25M, so that's not happening. The transition tag could happen but it's meaningless. They'd have no incentive to match a contract from him.
On paper, the most logical scenario is that Bell reports next Tuesday, signs his tender and leaves in free agency without any sort of tag. Similar to Kirk Cousins last year.
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Re: Conner dynasty value
Rumour is both parties are happy to just part ways at the end of the year regardless of whether he plays any games this year, I'm intrigued to how this plays out, I also think 2 franchise tags in a row is rediculous and needs to go, 1 is enough.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:33 amIf he doesn't sign this year, Pittsburgh could tag him for the same amount as this year (14.5) and essentially control where he goes. They could tag him and say we'll only trade you to these teams (if you sign your tender) or you don't play at all. It would prevent him from going to a division or conference foe, which is smart. If anything, this is the big reason why Bell should sign next week. Otherwise, they are screwed.thebeast wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:25 amTwo questions on this:ArrylT wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:18 am http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-ste ... tions-more
How does Bell become an unrestricted free agent?
If the Steelers do not place the franchise or transition tag on him this offseason, Bell will become an unrestricted free agent at the start of the new league year in March. That is the case whether he plays seven or zero games this season.
Why is that the case?
Bell is in his sixth NFL season. He has more than played out his four-year rookie contract. Once he isn't under the restriction of a tag, he's open for business. And that's his goal.
1. If he doesn't play this year can't they franchise him again as a 2nd franchise tag or would it have to be a 3rd franchise tag?
2. Is there any scenario where if they can't or choose not to franchise him again that they don't transition tag him?
If he plays, then they would have to use a QB franchise tender to tag him a 3rd time. That amount is worth $25M, so that's not happening. The transition tag could happen but it's meaningless. They'd have no incentive to match a contract from him.
On paper, the most logical scenario is that Bell reports next Tuesday, signs his tender and leaves in free agency without any sort of tag. Similar to Kirk Cousins last year.
Re: Conner dynasty value
I personally wouldn't have done this deal. Far more mid round 1st round draft picks bust than people like to remember. In my opinion Conner is more likely to retain RB1 type production than 2 future no name,no team (at the moment)1st round rookie picks. But, 2 firsts is reasonable and, like you stated, you have rb depth to spare. I prob would have dealt a diff rb for an even better return.
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Re: Conner dynasty value
Thanks! Just saw this on rotoworld though, seems like the would have to franchise him at a higher rate next year whether he plays this year or not. If that's the case I think he just sits out the year.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:33 amIf he doesn't sign this year, Pittsburgh could tag him for the same amount as this year (14.5) and essentially control where he goes. They could tag him and say we'll only trade you to these teams (if you sign your tender) or you don't play at all. It would prevent him from going to a division or conference foe, which is smart. If anything, this is the big reason why Bell should sign next week. Otherwise, they are screwed.thebeast wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:25 amTwo questions on this:ArrylT wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:18 am http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-ste ... tions-more
How does Bell become an unrestricted free agent?
If the Steelers do not place the franchise or transition tag on him this offseason, Bell will become an unrestricted free agent at the start of the new league year in March. That is the case whether he plays seven or zero games this season.
Why is that the case?
Bell is in his sixth NFL season. He has more than played out his four-year rookie contract. Once he isn't under the restriction of a tag, he's open for business. And that's his goal.
1. If he doesn't play this year can't they franchise him again as a 2nd franchise tag or would it have to be a 3rd franchise tag?
2. Is there any scenario where if they can't or choose not to franchise him again that they don't transition tag him?
If he plays, then they would have to use a QB franchise tender to tag him a 3rd time. That amount is worth $25M, so that's not happening. The transition tag could happen but it's meaningless. They'd have no incentive to match a contract from him.
On paper, the most logical scenario is that Bell reports next Tuesday, signs his tender and leaves in free agency without any sort of tag. Similar to Kirk Cousins last year.
Bell tweeted Monday he was leaving his training spot in Miami. There were rumblings he planned to sign his franchise tag this week, but there's now a chance he sits out all season. Bell counts as a third-year franchise player in 2019 even if he doesn't sign, so his $25 million tag number will prevent the Steelers from franchising him again in the offseason. Bell will forfeit his remaining $6.84 million salary if he doesn't report before next week.
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Re: Conner dynasty value
I just offered 2019 1st, 2019 2nd, and Antonio Callaway for Conner for the team in my sig to make a playoff run. Lots of risk in his situation, but could payoff big time. And it would in no way cripple my team in the present or future if it didn’t work out.
Team 1
10 team .5 PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 1Flex
QB: Brees, Cousins
RB: McCaffery, Guice, D Williams, Breida, Drake, Penny, S Ware, R Jones, J Adams, I Smith
WR: A Brown, Jeffery, Robinson, Ridley, Pettis, Miller, Shepard, Callaway, MVS, Washington
TE: Kelce, Herndon
Picks:
2019 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10
2020 1, 2, 3, 4
*2018 Champ*
10 team .5 PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 1Flex
QB: Brees, Cousins
RB: McCaffery, Guice, D Williams, Breida, Drake, Penny, S Ware, R Jones, J Adams, I Smith
WR: A Brown, Jeffery, Robinson, Ridley, Pettis, Miller, Shepard, Callaway, MVS, Washington
TE: Kelce, Herndon
Picks:
2019 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10
2020 1, 2, 3, 4
*2018 Champ*
Re: Conner dynasty value
You're gonna get yelled at for that offer here. Fair warningElroypedro wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:56 pm I just offered 2019 1st, 2019 2nd, and Antonio Callaway for Conner for the team in my sig to make a playoff run. Lots of risk in his situation, but could payoff big time. And it would in no way cripple my team in the present or future if it didn’t work out.
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Re: Conner dynasty value
What they think that’s too high a price?Jigga94 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:31 pmYou're gonna get yelled at for that offer here. Fair warningElroypedro wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:56 pm I just offered 2019 1st, 2019 2nd, and Antonio Callaway for Conner for the team in my sig to make a playoff run. Lots of risk in his situation, but could payoff big time. And it would in no way cripple my team in the present or future if it didn’t work out.
Team 1
10 team .5 PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 1Flex
QB: Brees, Cousins
RB: McCaffery, Guice, D Williams, Breida, Drake, Penny, S Ware, R Jones, J Adams, I Smith
WR: A Brown, Jeffery, Robinson, Ridley, Pettis, Miller, Shepard, Callaway, MVS, Washington
TE: Kelce, Herndon
Picks:
2019 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10
2020 1, 2, 3, 4
*2018 Champ*
10 team .5 PPR, 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 TE, 1Flex
QB: Brees, Cousins
RB: McCaffery, Guice, D Williams, Breida, Drake, Penny, S Ware, R Jones, J Adams, I Smith
WR: A Brown, Jeffery, Robinson, Ridley, Pettis, Miller, Shepard, Callaway, MVS, Washington
TE: Kelce, Herndon
Picks:
2019 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10
2020 1, 2, 3, 4
*2018 Champ*
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Re: Conner dynasty value
I dont know why he said you would get yelled at. But no way that buys you Conner in dynasty. If that 2019 first isnt early, you're not even going to get a counter offer.Elroypedro wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:51 pmWhat they think that’s too high a price?Jigga94 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:31 pmYou're gonna get yelled at for that offer here. Fair warningElroypedro wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:56 pm I just offered 2019 1st, 2019 2nd, and Antonio Callaway for Conner for the team in my sig to make a playoff run. Lots of risk in his situation, but could payoff big time. And it would in no way cripple my team in the present or future if it didn’t work out.
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Re: Conner dynasty value
I traded Connor and Duke Johnson for Joe Williams during that draft that year because Shanahan was pounding the table.........
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Re: Conner dynasty value
Samuel's getting a fair few carries today.... I'm not worried about Conner as he's apparently fine and standing on the sideline, maybe they want to see what they have in their backups.
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