What to do with ARob

[Valhalla]

Wrote this following week 3
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“29- Play action bullet pass to the first down line to ARob over the middle and oh my the defense almost had that one. I’m not sure why the heck ARob is falling AWAY from that ball other than to get a head start to the endzone. Gotta come back to that and win the battle for the ball first, ARob. Side note in this…I could honestly see Gabriel becoming the more trusted target over the middle and on contested balls (not deep or jump, but comeback routes) simply because he’s been doing it and ARob hasn’t, and it’s the difference between those bullets being completed a hair before the defense arrives, and a potential pick. Pull it together, ARob! Is he more like Dez than we’ve given him credit? Quite similar athletically, great at the sidelines and with jump balls, but not to be trusted over the middle to come back to the ball. Maybe not…but it’s worth watching for you ARob owners.“

That was a ONE GAME sample size, and I haven’t had the time to watch much of the Bears...so it might just be that I caught an off game...but Gabriel was running better routes and positioning himself better for the ball than Robinson was. Maybe this wasn’t a blip? Maybe Robinson’s reputation for a “reliable deep route AND possession wr” is all wrong. It certainly is if he tends to turn upfield often before claiming the ball as his. Think Boldin played that way at the reception point?

[dynastyninja]

I feel like I'm in an alternate reality here. In what world does it make sense to drop Allen Robinson instead of Elijah McGuire, Ito Smith, MVS, and to a lesser extent guys like Kirk/Golladay/Kupp? Heck I'd drop my kicker or defense and hurt my lineup before I let a guy like ARob go for free.

Lotto, yours isn't as crazy because it's redraft, but still. You must have really thin rosters or something.

Maybe I'm just an owner in denial here, who knows?

[Lotto4Life]

It's a fairly shallow non PPR. 6.5ppg, good for WR53

[JJRules]

I feel like I'm in an alternate reality here. In what world does it make sense to drop Allen Robinson instead of Elijah McGuire, Ito Smith, MVS, and to a lesser extent guys like Kirk/Golladay/Kupp? Heck I'd drop my kicker or defense and hurt my lineup before I let a guy like ARob go for free.

Lotto, yours isn't as crazy because it's redraft, but still. You must have really thin rosters or something.

Maybe I'm just an owner in denial here, who knows?

ARob had one really outstanding season which he followed up with a complete dud. Not worried about his injured season as that can happen to anybody, but he's now picking back up with another dud. With shallow rosters and some solid starters, I'd rather take a chance on some promising young guys than hold onto what was, once.

And looking at the short-term, what-have-you-done-lately, ARob is currently WR60 in my non-PPR.

[Jigga94]

I feel like I'm in an alternate reality here. In what world does it make sense to drop Allen Robinson instead of Elijah McGuire, Ito Smith, MVS, and to a lesser extent guys like Kirk/Golladay/Kupp? Heck I'd drop my kicker or defense and hurt my lineup before I let a guy like ARob go for free.

Lotto, yours isn't as crazy because it's redraft, but still. You must have really thin rosters or something.

Maybe I'm just an owner in denial here, who knows?

Right. I think he still holds value, more than Eli or Ito... geez. Maybe hes done but at least get a 3rd for him lol

[dynastyninja]

I feel like I'm in an alternate reality here. In what world does it make sense to drop Allen Robinson instead of Elijah McGuire, Ito Smith, MVS, and to a lesser extent guys like Kirk/Golladay/Kupp? Heck I'd drop my kicker or defense and hurt my lineup before I let a guy like ARob go for free.

Lotto, yours isn't as crazy because it's redraft, but still. You must have really thin rosters or something.

Maybe I'm just an owner in denial here, who knows?

ARob had one really outstanding season which he followed up with a complete dud. Not worried about his injured season as that can happen to anybody, but he's now picking back up with another dud. With shallow rosters and some solid starters, I'd rather take a chance on some promising young guys than hold onto what was, once.

And looking at the short-term, what-have-you-done-lately, ARob is currently WR60 in my non-PPR.

He's had a bye, missed a game due to injury, and played injured another week. WR60 is not representative of his healthy production in Chicago, and you're just trying to justify your move by using that. He's been a high-end WR3 when healthy.

[dynastyninja]

It's a fairly shallow non PPR. 6.5ppg, good for WR53

Look at his numbers from Weeks 1-6 before the Week 7 injury. In PPR he was a high-end WR3, not sure about non-PPR.

[JJRules]

I feel like I'm in an alternate reality here. In what world does it make sense to drop Allen Robinson instead of Elijah McGuire, Ito Smith, MVS, and to a lesser extent guys like Kirk/Golladay/Kupp? Heck I'd drop my kicker or defense and hurt my lineup before I let a guy like ARob go for free.

Lotto, yours isn't as crazy because it's redraft, but still. You must have really thin rosters or something.

Maybe I'm just an owner in denial here, who knows?

ARob had one really outstanding season which he followed up with a complete dud. Not worried about his injured season as that can happen to anybody, but he's now picking back up with another dud. With shallow rosters and some solid starters, I'd rather take a chance on some promising young guys than hold onto what was, once.

And looking at the short-term, what-have-you-done-lately, ARob is currently WR60 in my non-PPR.

He's had a bye, missed a game due to injury, and played injured another week. WR60 is not representative of his healthy production in Chicago, and you're just trying to justify your move by using that. He's been a high-end WR3 when healthy.

Before ARob went down he was WR46, which is a mid-range WR4 in a 10-team league. Kupp has missed two and a half games to injury and is still WR21, so missed time isn't an excuse here.

Hold onto 2015 for as long you'd like, but the fact is that ARob simply hasn't produced outside of that one season. In a shallow league he's kinda just dead weight.

[dynastyninja]

ARob had one really outstanding season which he followed up with a complete dud. Not worried about his injured season as that can happen to anybody, but he's now picking back up with another dud. With shallow rosters and some solid starters, I'd rather take a chance on some promising young guys than hold onto what was, once.

And looking at the short-term, what-have-you-done-lately, ARob is currently WR60 in my non-PPR.

He's had a bye, missed a game due to injury, and played injured another week. WR60 is not representative of his healthy production in Chicago, and you're just trying to justify your move by using that. He's been a high-end WR3 when healthy.

Before ARob went down he was WR46, which is a mid-range WR4 in a 10-team league. Kupp has missed two and a half games to injury and is still WR21, so missed time isn't an excuse here.

Hold onto 2015 for as long you'd like, but the fact is that ARob simply hasn't produced outside of that one season. In a shallow league he's kinda just dead weight.

Edit: I'm looking at the numbers wrong on my phone. I'll have to re-visit at my computer.

Either way, go back and get ARob and drop Ito Smith.

[JJRules]

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[JJRules]

Bah, edited while I was quoting

Either way, for all the love the guy gets here, I don't consider "...but he's a WR3!" to be a remotely compelling argument for holding onto him. He's shitting the bed again and I'm done lying in it.

[Mefisto]

As a Bears fan I've watched almost every snap of his and while he hasn't produced at the level I was hoping, I don't place all of the blame on him. Sure, he's had his mistakes, but Trubisky's numbers are not painting a full picture. Most of his passing yards are to RB's and TE's. He has struggled to hit his WR's when they have been open. Both under and over throwing them. I'm not trying to make excuses for ARob but I would give him the year before getting rid of him. Trubisky is looking better and more comfortable as the year is going on but Nagy is doing a great job hiding his down field deficiency right now with a bunch of run pass options and short throws to the RB/TE's. Is Trubs better than Bortles? Of course! Is he better for WR's? Not through the first 8 games of the season. Regardless, this is an offense I'd be trying to buy into right now, not sell off.

[Jfever]

Received offer of ARob and a 2019 2nd for Mike Evans last week.

Instant decline. Not much thought about it either. I think the difference between Evans and Arob is much more than a 2nd round pick. I countered with ARob, 2019 1st, 2020 2nd for M.Evans. And he declined, no counter. So... There is that. I'm happy with Evans as my #3 wr.

[dynastyninja]

Bah, edited while I was quoting

Either way, for all the love the guy gets here, I don't consider "...but he's a WR3!" to be a remotely compelling argument for holding onto him. He's shitting the bed again and I'm done lying in it.

So what's the justification for holding Ito Smith or Elijah McGuire over him?

[JJRules]

So what's the justification for holding Ito Smith or Elijah McGuire over him?

I'd rather take a chance on some promising young guys than hold onto what was, once.

It could obviously be argued whether or not Ito or Eli should be considered "promising", but I feel that they are.