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Re: Jarvis Landry Worth

Postby Needalife » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:15 pm

I think now is the time to get what you can. If you can get a top 6 pick plus, I’d jump on it personally. He is volume guy and Tannehill just fed this dude. Not sure he’ll get the same reception totals in CLE.
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Re: Jarvis Landry Worth

Postby Lesman » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:31 pm

This topic was beaten to death here:
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Meanwhile, I have received nothing more than a mid 2nd round offer for him so far in a non-PPR. I am holding out for a 1st or I will just hang onto him.
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Re: Jarvis Landry Worth

Postby AlPal&Ange » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:52 pm

In ppr, hes a top 20 player. I would want the 1.02 and a second or a player pry!

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Re: Jarvis Landry Worth

Postby ArrylT » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:54 pm

My valuation would likely be in between that and what Space Cowboy said on the previous thread shared.
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Re: Jarvis Landry Worth

Postby ArrylT » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:55 pm

Lesman wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:31 pm This topic was beaten to death here:
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Meanwhile, I have received nothing more than a mid 2nd round offer for him so far in a non-PPR. I am holding out for a 1st or I will just hang onto him.
Funny enough I just turned down an offer that was basically a future 2nd for Landry.
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Re: Jarvis Landry Worth

Postby Jason3123 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:13 pm

Phaded wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:49 pm
Jason3123 wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:05 pm
BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:23 pm hes a WR1 in ppr, treat him like a top talent
He was.
He has not played a snap for the Browns, you don't know he won't be.
I don't know but fantasy is about looking forward, not backwards.

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Re: Jarvis Landry Worth

Postby Goddard » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:51 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:13 pm
Phaded wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:49 pm
Jason3123 wrote: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:05 pm

He was.
He has not played a snap for the Browns, you don't know he won't be.
I don't know but fantasy is about looking forward, not backwards.
Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. So if we're looking forward and making predictions, history tells us Landry will continue to be good.

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Re: Jarvis Landry Worth

Postby Jason3123 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:00 pm

Good, sure. WR1 in Cleveland with Tyrod? No.

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Re: Jarvis Landry Worth

Postby Phaded » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:42 am

I am not so sure Tyrod is any worse than Tannehill, Cutler or Moore though.

We can all guess and try to predict how he is going to be in Cleveland, but none of us know.

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Re: Jarvis Landry Worth

Postby Goddard » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:29 am

My issue with people downgrading Landry in Cleveland is that they're doing it solely based on their opinion that he's target dependent. That may have been the case somewhat in Miami, but that's because they didn't have a QB that was willing to throw the ball past 5 yards down the field and the coaches were drawing up those short passes. While I expect Landry's targets to decrease, I also expect his efficiency to go up and his YAC (something everyone loves to point out) to increase.

And like Phaded mentioned, not sure why Tyrod is a downgrade from Tannehill or Cutler.

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Re: Jarvis Landry - Should You Care?

Postby Phaded » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:12 pm

So - it is obviously very early into the year, but three weeks in he currently has an average per catch of 13.9; a whopping 5+ more yards per catch than last year in Miami. He is consistently being used down the field.

Things should only get better with Baker soon to be running the show as well.

Do we still think it was Landry or can we agree that the Miami coaching staff is just that awful?

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Re: Jarvis Landry - Should You Care?

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:34 pm

Phaded wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:12 pm So - it is obviously very early into the year, but three weeks in he currently has an average per catch of 13.9; a whopping 5+ more yards per catch than last year in Miami. He is consistently being used down the field.

Things should only get better with Baker soon to be running the show as well.

Do we still think it was Landry or can we agree that the Miami coaching staff is just that awful?
It's definitely encouraging that they're using him more downfield, though I'm hesitant to dismiss four years of sample size to three games despite a team change

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Re: Jarvis Landry - Should You Care?

Postby skip » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:06 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:34 pm
Phaded wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:12 pm So - it is obviously very early into the year, but three weeks in he currently has an average per catch of 13.9; a whopping 5+ more yards per catch than last year in Miami. He is consistently being used down the field.

Things should only get better with Baker soon to be running the show as well.

Do we still think it was Landry or can we agree that the Miami coaching staff is just that awful?
It's definitely encouraging that they're using him more downfield, though I'm hesitant to dismiss four years of sample size to three games despite a team change
I don't agree that it's a 4 year sample size. Every year saw Landry have an increased ypr except last season when Tannehill was hurt and they had garbage at QB. I fully expect 12-13 ypr as a lock as a minimum for this year.
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Re: Jarvis Landry - Should You Care?

Postby nathanq42 » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:30 pm

Nope, Miami had him run super shallow route all day every day because he clearly lacks the ability to do the exact same thing but 5 yards further down field. Obviously these 3 games are outliers, Landry has a low ypr because he physically can't make a cut or catch more than 5 yards down field. Idk how or why Landry has all of a sudden been able to catch the ball further down field.. it's as if the plays are designed to have him run a bit further down field or something.. but Miami the super team with a great offensive coaching staff and players, know how to better use Landry than the Browns, He cAn OnLy RuN rEaLlY sHaLlOw RoUtEs AnD iS iNcApAbLe oF gOiNg DeEp
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Re: Jarvis Landry - Should You Care?

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:48 pm

skip wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:06 pm
Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:34 pm
Phaded wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:12 pm So - it is obviously very early into the year, but three weeks in he currently has an average per catch of 13.9; a whopping 5+ more yards per catch than last year in Miami. He is consistently being used down the field.

Things should only get better with Baker soon to be running the show as well.

Do we still think it was Landry or can we agree that the Miami coaching staff is just that awful?
It's definitely encouraging that they're using him more downfield, though I'm hesitant to dismiss four years of sample size to three games despite a team change
I don't agree that it's a 4 year sample size. Every year saw Landry have an increased ypr except last season when Tannehill was hurt and they had garbage at QB. I fully expect 12-13 ypr as a lock as a minimum for this year.
Yards Per Reception wasn't the focus, since that includes YAC. It was Yards at the Catch, which Landry has usually ranked low in for four seasons. I'm not sure what the number is this year, but I'd assume it's higher so far. That's encouraging. I'm happy to be wrong about it though.


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