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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby TheRookiePro » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:50 am

SELL. You have an extra half-week to find a buyer. His knee injuries will never go away. They'll only increase over time.
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby Ice » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:06 am

TheRookiePro wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:50 am SELL. You have an extra half-week to find a buyer. His knee injuries will never go away. They'll only increase over time.
I tend to agree with selling him.

He still hits the hole hard north/south very well but I doubt he gets more than 50-54% of the touches at RB. Looks to be a complete non factor in the passing game.

That offense overall was not good. Looked very predictable. The Eagles Defense carried them stopping the Falcons twice on goal to goal situations. While he worked out last 6.2 points without the TD's is not good. He will have many games I suspect with zero TD's.
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby CharlieKelly » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:32 am

Ice wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:06 am
TheRookiePro wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:50 am SELL. You have an extra half-week to find a buyer. His knee injuries will never go away. They'll only increase over time.
I tend to agree with selling him.

He still hits the hole hard north/south very well but I doubt he gets more than 50-54% of the touches at RB. Looks to be a complete non factor in the passing game.

That offense overall was not good. Looked very predictable. The Eagles Defense carried them stopping the Falcons twice on goal to goal situations. While he worked out last 6.2 points without the TD's is not good. He will have many games I suspect with zero TD's.
People have been calling to sell him because of the knee stuff since he was drafted. Reality is that it probably wont heavily affect him until he's retired.

Also neither offense looked good because the whole field was wet and passes were getting dropped left and right. Oh and the Eagles were missing two of their most important skill position players (Wentz and Alshon).

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:35 am

CharlieKelly wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:32 am
Ice wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:06 am
TheRookiePro wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:50 am SELL. You have an extra half-week to find a buyer. His knee injuries will never go away. They'll only increase over time.
I tend to agree with selling him.

He still hits the hole hard north/south very well but I doubt he gets more than 50-54% of the touches at RB. Looks to be a complete non factor in the passing game.

That offense overall was not good. Looked very predictable. The Eagles Defense carried them stopping the Falcons twice on goal to goal situations. While he worked out last 6.2 points without the TD's is not good. He will have many games I suspect with zero TD's.
People have been calling to sell him because of the knee stuff since he was drafted. Reality is that it probably wont heavily affect him until he's retired.

Also neither offense looked good because the whole field was wet and passes were getting dropped left and right.
I don't agree. They were saying it would affect his longevity, and some teams were afraid he wouldn't even get out of his first contract before it started to affect him. It was degenerative, and it should only get worse. It's already starting to affect him, I would say that the concerns at the draft were warranted, as his recent history has shown the predictions about his knee are heading in the direction of being accurate.
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby Servo » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:45 am

Really peculiar the distribution of snaps for these PHI RBs. Not sure why it took Pederson until after halftime to get Ajayi in the game.

In my Superflex league the emotions went from, "Hmmm, I guess I'm glad I didn't start him." to "Welp, starting the year off on a bad GM move.".

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby TheRookiePro » Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:53 am

CharlieKelly wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:32 am Reality is that it probably wont heavily affect him until he's retired.
No it's already effected his career as far as limitations in practice. CharlieKelly, take my advice and sell him. Remember when I tried telling you last summer that you were drunk off the Willie Snead WR2 cool-aid? Listen to me this time.

I was the biggest Ajayi fan back in 2015 when I drafted him 12th overall. I sold him last year when he reached a high point in his first two weeks in Philly. I received a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd pick. I'm a happier man because of it. :D
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby CharlieKelly » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:06 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:35 am
CharlieKelly wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:32 am
People have been calling to sell him because of the knee stuff since he was drafted. Reality is that it probably wont heavily affect him until he's retired.

Also neither offense looked good because the whole field was wet and passes were getting dropped left and right.
I don't agree. They were saying it would affect his longevity, and some teams were afraid he wouldn't even get out of his first contract before it started to affect him. It was degenerative, and it should only get worse. It's already starting to affect him, I would say that the concerns at the draft were warranted, as his recent history has shown the predictions about his knee are heading in the direction of being accurate.
What recent history has shown any of that? Did you watch him play last night? He looked great. If anything he's slimmed down and looked even better than last season.

RBs don't have a terribly long shelf life anyways. How many RB2s are you expecting to be relevant 2-3 years from now? You expect Devonta Freeman to play into his 30s? Or for Jordan Howard to keep up production with his style of play for another 5 years?

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby sloth8u » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:13 am

we shouuld put the knee issue to rest. we all know about it! adjust your opinion accordingly.

he has little mileage on the tires imo. he's been in the league 3 years and touched the ball roughly 500 times. any players knee could go out...it is what it is.

when given a load, he's handled it. the question then becomes how much work the eagles plan to give him.... just an opinion, but i think its going to be hard to keep a guy with ajayi's skill set off the field. i anticipate seeing a much different offensive approach with wentz rather than foles.

last nite, there were plenty of runs in which he was making his way forward....with wentz, i expect more holes towards the boundaries.

in terms of buy vs sell.....as always, its price relative. im not one to make many moves until a few weeks in, but this certainly creates a selling point for those who wish to move him.

im an ajayi guy, own or have owned in several leagues. he's just now entering his prime, so certainly worth asking about. but i wouldnt get carried away (just yet) after 15 touches. id anticipate several responses to sell...the guy was ranked as a top 25 asset, any glimpse of that would provoke any owner to sell. the reality is....most owners are eager to see what the next couple weeks bring.

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby Ice » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:51 am

CharlieKelly wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:32 am
Ice wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:06 am
TheRookiePro wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:50 am SELL. You have an extra half-week to find a buyer. His knee injuries will never go away. They'll only increase over time.
I tend to agree with selling him.

He still hits the hole hard north/south very well but I doubt he gets more than 50-54% of the touches at RB. Looks to be a complete non factor in the passing game.

That offense overall was not good. Looked very predictable. The Eagles Defense carried them stopping the Falcons twice on goal to goal situations. While he worked out last 6.2 points without the TD's is not good. He will have many games I suspect with zero TD's.
People have been calling to sell him because of the knee stuff since he was drafted. Reality is that it probably wont heavily affect him until he's retired.

Also neither offense looked good because the whole field was wet and passes were getting dropped left and right. Oh and the Eagles were missing two of their most important skill position players (Wentz and Alshon).
My comments have more to do with touches, not his knee. I do not see him as a high volume type player. While effective in bursts, he is a complete non factor in the passing game. He will be lucky to get 25 receptions. (Don't think he has ever had 30 receptions in a season so I don't own him)

My take is this looks like a 3 back system offense which, if true, will mean inconsistency over a 16 game fantasy season
. That said, he is a quality runner of the football between the tackles. With that line he should still hit 4+ YPC on average.

So many owners live in the moment, he could fetch an overpay today for his services.
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby grooner » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:57 am

I think they were trying to rest Ajayi as much as they could. Then at halftime they realized that Foles wasn't going to get it done, and had to use Ajayi more than they wanted.

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby notweswelker » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:36 am

grooner wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:57 am I think they were trying to rest Ajayi as much as they could. Then at halftime they realized that Foles wasn't going to get it done, and had to use Ajayi more than they wanted.
Pretty much. Actually thought both clement and sproles looked like sh1t. Sproles dropped a few catchable balls and Clement looked awful outside of his one 20 yard run through the biggest hole of the night. If Ajayi is getting the goal-line work and 15-20 touches per week I'm pretty happy with that. Should be worth RB10-15 at that pace.

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby trc » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:44 am

Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:39 am

when wentz comes back this guy is gonna explode. there will be plenty more room for him to run.
Think Alshon returning will have a bigger impact. Foles last game was winning SB throwing a ton.

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby thebeast » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:50 am

Total sell high, if you can find a buyer.

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby Valhalla » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:06 am

The Blount role...after week 1.

I remember when the EXACT same thing was said of Gillislee after his 3TD opener. He had “secured the Blount role.”

Addition: didn’t he end up on a milk carton?

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:12 am

Phaded wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:47 am I expect them to continue to use him sparingly due to health reasons.
He will be reliant on TDs and inevitably frustrate his fantasy owners.
x2 PHI showed last night that the predictions about them using a RBBC are 100% accurate. I'd project Ajayi to be a TD-dependent boom-or-bust RB3/flex every week. I'd sell high ASAP if you can find an owner that believes Ajayi will finish the season as a fantasy RB1.
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