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DT Trade help

Postby vbbish » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:12 am

Hey guys,

Buddy and I have been going at it for a week straight trying to agree on value for DT. He is rebuilding after taking over an orphaned team and I am competing. Having recently traded away Julio for M. Gordon, Baldwin & 2nd I would like to add another WR.

I have offered Docston, Powell & 2x 2nds for DT

He is holding firm at Williams & First which I feel is a total overpay.

Whats the going rate for DT??
12th Year Full Dynasty PPR (1 pt. per Rec.) 1QB,2RB,2WR,1TE,1TE/RB/WR 12 team league **Champ 20, 21 & 22 **
QB: J. Burrow, M. Jones, B. Zappe
RB: Breece Hall, J. Gibbs, D. Cook, AJ Dillon, D. Pierce
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Jeudy, R. Moore, K. Shakir, T. Burks, Z. Flowers, S. Moore, J. Reed, J. Metchie, J. Downs
TE: Andrews, J. Johnson, T. Kraft

2024 1.01, 1.02, 1.11, 3.10

1st Year Superflex PPR (.5 per Rec) 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2WR/RB/TE, 1SF

QB: Herbie, T. Law, B. Young, J. Winston, K. Pickett, M. Willis
RB: D. Singletary, E. Gray, E. Wilson, M. Carter, I. Spiller, R. Blackshear, I. Abanikanda, T. Bigsby
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, KJ Osborn, M. Wilson, D. Davis, J. Watson, J. Williams, T, Scott, Q, Johnson, P. Washingon
TE: C. Otton, D. Kincaid, T. Conklin, N. Fant, J, Whyle, M. Mayer

2024 1.05, 2.02, 2.10, 3.02, 3.04

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Re: DT Trade help

Postby kmbryant09 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:23 am

Assuming this is for your team in sig? With Ryan / Fournette / Gordon / Ingram / Miller / Penny / Hopkins / AJG / Baldwin / Alshon / Gronk, a couple thoughts:
Not sure you really need DT.[/list]
  • I wouldn't put much value in M. Williams since he's buried on your depth chart and likely plays 3rd or 4th fiddle for the Chargers.
  • Can you center a trade around your veteran RB depth like Ingram or Miller?
  • DT is a strong buy for me this off-season - he's lost weight and completely changed his diet & workout regimen - he's finally healthy & he'll have much improved QB play from the past few year.
  • What about a compromise of Doctson & 1st?
  • Ultimately, I'd be motivated to push this across the goalline. Your 1st should be in the 1.08 - 1.12 range, and I think DT is worth a mid-first that's a year-out.
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: J. Hurts, K. Murray
RB: Bi. Robinson, D. Henry, D. Achane, , J. Cook, Z. Charbonnet, T. Chandler, R. Johnson, K. Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, T. Allgeier, J. McLaughlin, S. Tucker, T. Bigsby
WR: G. Wilson, B. Aiyuk, J. Waddle, T. Higgins,, Z. Flowers, Di. Johnson, K. Toney, A. Iosivas
TE: K. Pitts, E. Engram, C. Okonkwo, G. Dulcich

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Re: DT Trade help

Postby vbbish » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:29 am

Thanks for the great response!

I know what you mean about Williams but I get the feeling that a year or two away im going to regret moving him.

As he is rebuilding he isnt at all interested in vets. He only wants Fournette, Penny or Gordon for RB's. Cheers!
12th Year Full Dynasty PPR (1 pt. per Rec.) 1QB,2RB,2WR,1TE,1TE/RB/WR 12 team league **Champ 20, 21 & 22 **
QB: J. Burrow, M. Jones, B. Zappe
RB: Breece Hall, J. Gibbs, D. Cook, AJ Dillon, D. Pierce
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Jeudy, R. Moore, K. Shakir, T. Burks, Z. Flowers, S. Moore, J. Reed, J. Metchie, J. Downs
TE: Andrews, J. Johnson, T. Kraft

2024 1.01, 1.02, 1.11, 3.10

1st Year Superflex PPR (.5 per Rec) 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2WR/RB/TE, 1SF

QB: Herbie, T. Law, B. Young, J. Winston, K. Pickett, M. Willis
RB: D. Singletary, E. Gray, E. Wilson, M. Carter, I. Spiller, R. Blackshear, I. Abanikanda, T. Bigsby
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, KJ Osborn, M. Wilson, D. Davis, J. Watson, J. Williams, T, Scott, Q, Johnson, P. Washingon
TE: C. Otton, D. Kincaid, T. Conklin, N. Fant, J, Whyle, M. Mayer

2024 1.05, 2.02, 2.10, 3.02, 3.04

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Re: DT Trade help

Postby ap28.allday » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:34 am

DT still put up over 200 pts in my ppr league last season. He has been playing with atrocious QB the last few years. Though he is on the decline bc of age, I definitely seeing him having a bounce back year. I think he is undervalued by most people. I'm a DT owner and I would instant decline your offer. I don't think M.Williams + 1st is an over pay. You have a good team so it's going to be a late first anyways, and not a big M.Williams fan. I value productive players over draft picks unless I'm guaranteed to get a stud. He's one of those aging stars in dynasty where he will still put up 200+ points for the next 3-4 years.
12 team PPR IDP Dynasty - Starters 17, Bench 15, 7 Rookie Practice squad 3 - 2 pts per tackle
1 qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 te 2 flex 1 k, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 2 flex

QB: J.Burrow, T.Lawerence
RB: Jonathan Taylor, D.Swift, R.Stevenson, Javonte Williams, A.Dillion, D.Jackson
WR: J.Jefferson, C.Lamb, T.Higgins, J.Waddle, T.McLaurin, E.Moore, K.Toney
TE: D.Schultz, E.Engram
K: J.Tucker
DL: TJ Watt, B.Burns, J.Allen, R.Gary, D.Brown
LB: F.Warner, D.Jones, I.Simmons, L.Wilson, TJ Edwards, D.Long, M.Rodrigez, D.Tranquill, M.Walker
DB: D.James, R.Neal

Rookie Practice squad
J.Pitre, D.Bellinger, D.Ojabo, C.Austin, J.Warren, K.Phillips, D.Ridder

2023 Rookie Draft Picks
3rd, 5th, 6th
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Re: DT Trade help

Postby vbbish » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:03 pm

ap28.allday wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:34 am DT still put up over 200 pts in my ppr league last season. He has been playing with atrocious QB the last few years. Though he is on the decline bc of age, I definitely seeing him having a bounce back year. I think he is undervalued by most people. I'm a DT owner and I would instant decline your offer. I don't think M.Williams + 1st is an over pay. You have a good team so it's going to be a late first anyways, and not a big M.Williams fan. I value productive players over draft picks unless I'm guaranteed to get a stud. He's one of those aging stars in dynasty where he will still put up 200+ points for the next 3-4 years.
I think this is where the problem is... previous posts asking what the value of DT are say that he is worth a late first or a couple 2nds... Im offering 2 players and 2x 2nds?
12th Year Full Dynasty PPR (1 pt. per Rec.) 1QB,2RB,2WR,1TE,1TE/RB/WR 12 team league **Champ 20, 21 & 22 **
QB: J. Burrow, M. Jones, B. Zappe
RB: Breece Hall, J. Gibbs, D. Cook, AJ Dillon, D. Pierce
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Jeudy, R. Moore, K. Shakir, T. Burks, Z. Flowers, S. Moore, J. Reed, J. Metchie, J. Downs
TE: Andrews, J. Johnson, T. Kraft

2024 1.01, 1.02, 1.11, 3.10

1st Year Superflex PPR (.5 per Rec) 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2WR/RB/TE, 1SF

QB: Herbie, T. Law, B. Young, J. Winston, K. Pickett, M. Willis
RB: D. Singletary, E. Gray, E. Wilson, M. Carter, I. Spiller, R. Blackshear, I. Abanikanda, T. Bigsby
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, KJ Osborn, M. Wilson, D. Davis, J. Watson, J. Williams, T, Scott, Q, Johnson, P. Washingon
TE: C. Otton, D. Kincaid, T. Conklin, N. Fant, J, Whyle, M. Mayer

2024 1.05, 2.02, 2.10, 3.02, 3.04

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Re: DT Trade help

Postby Goddard » Wed Aug 15, 2018 2:13 pm

Williams and a late 1st seems fair to me. If anything, I'd try to negotiate it to Williams and the two 2nds that you have and hope that gets it done. The initial offer wouldn't really be close for me and I would reject it whether I'm rebuilding or not.

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Re: DT Trade help

Postby vbbish » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:57 pm

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Ended up with Williams & 2x 2nds for DT
12th Year Full Dynasty PPR (1 pt. per Rec.) 1QB,2RB,2WR,1TE,1TE/RB/WR 12 team league **Champ 20, 21 & 22 **
QB: J. Burrow, M. Jones, B. Zappe
RB: Breece Hall, J. Gibbs, D. Cook, AJ Dillon, D. Pierce
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Jeudy, R. Moore, K. Shakir, T. Burks, Z. Flowers, S. Moore, J. Reed, J. Metchie, J. Downs
TE: Andrews, J. Johnson, T. Kraft

2024 1.01, 1.02, 1.11, 3.10

1st Year Superflex PPR (.5 per Rec) 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2WR/RB/TE, 1SF

QB: Herbie, T. Law, B. Young, J. Winston, K. Pickett, M. Willis
RB: D. Singletary, E. Gray, E. Wilson, M. Carter, I. Spiller, R. Blackshear, I. Abanikanda, T. Bigsby
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, KJ Osborn, M. Wilson, D. Davis, J. Watson, J. Williams, T, Scott, Q, Johnson, P. Washingon
TE: C. Otton, D. Kincaid, T. Conklin, N. Fant, J, Whyle, M. Mayer

2024 1.05, 2.02, 2.10, 3.02, 3.04

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Re: DT Trade help

Postby ap28.allday » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:23 pm

Nice!! Good move for you.
12 team PPR IDP Dynasty - Starters 17, Bench 15, 7 Rookie Practice squad 3 - 2 pts per tackle
1 qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 te 2 flex 1 k, 2 dl, 2 lb, 2 db, 2 flex

QB: J.Burrow, T.Lawerence
RB: Jonathan Taylor, D.Swift, R.Stevenson, Javonte Williams, A.Dillion, D.Jackson
WR: J.Jefferson, C.Lamb, T.Higgins, J.Waddle, T.McLaurin, E.Moore, K.Toney
TE: D.Schultz, E.Engram
K: J.Tucker
DL: TJ Watt, B.Burns, J.Allen, R.Gary, D.Brown
LB: F.Warner, D.Jones, I.Simmons, L.Wilson, TJ Edwards, D.Long, M.Rodrigez, D.Tranquill, M.Walker
DB: D.James, R.Neal

Rookie Practice squad
J.Pitre, D.Bellinger, D.Ojabo, C.Austin, J.Warren, K.Phillips, D.Ridder

2023 Rookie Draft Picks
3rd, 5th, 6th
2024 Rookie Draft Picks
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Re: DT Trade help

Postby IR1 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:48 pm

Good deal for both sides
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston

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Re: DT Trade help

Postby jeffster » Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:27 am

IR1 wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:48 pm Good deal for both sides
That was my thought, I actually like this trade from both sides just fine.


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