Cooks++ v JuJu++

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Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby BiggieV » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:48 am

Team 2 in sig

Which side and my how much?

Side 1: Brandin Cooks, Randall Cobb, Jerrick McKinnon

Side 2: JuJu, Cooper Kupp, Tevin Coleman
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QB: Jimmy G; Winston; Tannehill
RB: J.Ajayi; M.Mack; D.Foreman; J.Williams;R.Penny; K.Ballage; J.Adams
WR: K.Allen; C.Davis; J.Gordon; D.Funchess; N.Agholor; M.Lee; T.Lockett; M.Hollins;C.Sutton
TE: J.Reed; G.Kittle; V.Davies; H.Hurst

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LB: B.Martinez; C.Kirksey; TJ.Watt; K.Van Noy
CB: D.King; K.Fuller
S: M.Farley; J.Reid

Team 2 1/2 PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, 2Flex, 2DE, 1DT, 3LB, 2CB, 2S, 1IDP Flex

QB: R.Wilson; M.Ryan
RB: D.Johnson; J.McKinnon; D.Foreman; L.Blount; J.Hill; M.Breida
WR: D.Hopkins; B.Cooks; D.Parker; R.Cobb; R.Matthews; T.Prior; T.Gabriel; M.Hollins; DJ.Moore; D.Pettis
TE: G.Olsen; J.Doyle; J.Cook; R.Gathers

DT: A.Robinson; L.Ogunjobi; V.Vea
DE: Y.Ngakoue; T.Flowers; M.Bennett; D.Barnett; J.Allen
LB: K.Alexander; R.Shazier; R.Foster J.Davis; J.Collins; J.Hicks; BJ.Goodson; F.Warner
CB: P.Peterson; D.Trufant; K.Fuller
S: M.Hyde; M.Farley; D.Sorensen; J.Reid

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Re: Trade Help!

Postby Ravenous » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:06 am

this is pretty close.

I think Cooks and Juju are more or less about equal
Cobb and Kupp...i think Kupp has the edge, but cobb is undervalued this year
McKinnon > Coleman, at least this year.

About even, but ill give the "win this year" value to Side 1
and the "win next year" value to side 2
Too many teams and lineup changes to keep track of them all.

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Re: Trade Help!

Postby rmacattack6 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:09 am

Ravenous wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:06 am this is pretty close.

I think Cooks and Juju are more or less about equal
Cobb and Kupp...i think Kupp has the edge, but cobb is undervalued this year
McKinnon > Coleman, at least this year.

About even, but ill give the "win this year" value to Side 1
and the "win next year" value to side 2
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QB - Jackson, Stafford, Darnold
RB - Chubb, Mack, Henderson, Mostert, Howard, Coleman, Cohen, T.Pollard, D.Harris, D. Freeman
WR - Hopkins, Thielen, Robinson, Metcalf, M.Jones, Washington, Arcega-Whiteside
TE - Henry, Howard
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2021 2,2,3,3,4

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RB - Chubb, Mack, Coleman, Penny, D Harris, D. Freeman
WR -Thomas, Moore, Boyd, Ridley, Sanders, Jeffrey, Crowder, Campbell, Miller, Sims Jr
TE - Kittle, Hurst, Knox

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2021 1,2,3,3,4
2022 1,2,2,3,4

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Re: Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby Farley » Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:29 pm

I like the JuJu side.

JuJu > Cooks because more consistent game to game and less questions with Cooks going to a new team.
Kupp > Cobb
Tevin < McKinnon right now but that script could easily be flipped this time next year.

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Re: Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby knotts4372 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:04 pm

Farley wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:29 pm I like the JuJu side.

JuJu > Cooks because more consistent game to game and less questions with Cooks going to a new team.
Kupp > Cobb
Tevin < McKinnon right now but that script could easily be flipped this time next year.
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Re: Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby Trevormortis » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:21 pm

knotts4372 wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:04 pm
Farley wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:29 pm I like the JuJu side.

JuJu > Cooks because more consistent game to game and less questions with Cooks going to a new team.
Kupp > Cobb
Tevin < McKinnon right now but that script could easily be flipped this time next year.
lmfao
beat me to it. All these replies seem way off value.
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QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5

Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
QB - Tua
RB - T. Spears, Z. Charbonnet, C. Hubbard, R. Rivers, D. Vaughn, J. Kelly, Chubb (IR)
WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
TE - J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,1,1,2,2,2
2025 - 1,1,2,2,5

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Re: Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby Farley » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:29 pm

Trevormortis wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:21 pm
knotts4372 wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:04 pm
Farley wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:29 pm I like the JuJu side.

JuJu > Cooks because more consistent game to game and less questions with Cooks going to a new team.
Kupp > Cobb
Tevin < McKinnon right now but that script could easily be flipped this time next year.
lmfao
beat me to it. All these replies seem way off value.
Sorry for the unbiased response, Cooks' owners.

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Re: Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby Flatlander19 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:48 pm

Cooks>>JuJu, Cobb<<Kupp, McKinnon>Coleman so I would have to go with the Cooks side but it's a pretty even deal
Team 1
12 team PPR 1QB, 2RB,3WR,1TE, flex
QB Lawrence, Garoppollo
RB Barkley, Jacobs, Mack, Ingram,T Coleman, Gallman,E Benjamin
WR Jefferson, Mclaurin, Godwin, E Moore, Reagor, Campbell, Hardman
TE Kittle, Tonyan
Team 2
10 team Half PPR 1QB, 2 RB, 3WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE
QB J Allen, Tua, Mayfield
RB JT, Zeke, CEH, Sanders, Javontae Williams, Drake, Penny
WR AJ Brown, Chase, DJ Moore, Ridley, Mclaurin, Amon Ra St Brown, M Williams, Davis, Campbell
TE Hockenson, Engram
Team 3
10 team Non PPR 1QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1Flex, 1TE, 1 K, 1Def
QB Wilson, Lance, Z Wilson, Cousins
RB Jones, Akers, Sanders, Coleman, Pollard
WR M Thomas, AJ Brown, Golladay, DJ Moore, OBJ, Jeudy, Mims, Davis
TE Kittle, Gesicki,
K Koo, Sanders
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Re: Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby JDogil12 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:14 pm

Only 8 receivers in NFL history have been as productive as Cooks in their first 3 years (about to be 9 with MT), but keep saying Cooks doesnt produce, I will gladly profit off of his perceived value hit.
Cooks>>JuJu
Mckinnon>Tev
Kupp>>Cobb

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Re: Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby Trevormortis » Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:44 pm

Farley wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:29 pm
Trevormortis wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:21 pm
knotts4372 wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:04 pm

lmfao
beat me to it. All these replies seem way off value.
Sorry for the unbiased response, Cooks' owners.
...yup.. and a JuJu owner, and a Kupp owner...annnnndddddd all on the same team. My bad. :wall:
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QB - Watson, G. Smith
RB - Henry, Ekeler, Kamara, D. Pierce, AJ Dillon, J. McLaughlin, Gainwell
WR - J. Jefferson, Diggs, AJ Brown, T. Higgins, M. Thomas, Cooks, Bateman, R. Moore, C. Tillman, J. Hyatt, D. Parker
TE - Kelce, J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,2,3,4,5
2025 - 1,2,3,4,5

Team 2. 12 team. .5 PPR. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX 2019 1st, 2020 1st, 2021 2nd, 2023 Full rebuild mode
QB - Tua
RB - T. Spears, Z. Charbonnet, C. Hubbard, R. Rivers, D. Vaughn, J. Kelly, Chubb (IR)
WR - London, J. Downs, R. Rice, Burks, J. Jeudy, A. Pierce, C. Tillman, R. Bell, D. Parker, D. Slayton, Cooks
TE - J. Ferguson
2024 - 1,1,1,2,2,2
2025 - 1,1,2,2,5

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Re: Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby Farley » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:08 pm

Trevormortis wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:44 pm
Farley wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:29 pm
Trevormortis wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:21 pm

beat me to it. All these replies seem way off value.
Sorry for the unbiased response, Cooks' owners.
...yup.. and a JuJu owner, and a Kupp owner...annnnndddddd all on the same team. My bad. :wall:
Yep. And I own them on a couple of teams, too.

Plus I can read expert rankings and ADP data that shows me it's not laughable to prefer JuJu over Cooks. But keep smashing your head on the wall...maybe you'll get those synapses firing.

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Re: Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:15 pm

Farley wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:29 pm I like the JuJu side.

JuJu > Cooks because more consistent game to game and less questions with Cooks going to a new team.
Kupp > Cobb
Tevin < McKinnon right now but that script could easily be flipped this time next year.
JuJu had 79 targets last year. Love the player, but I think Cooks>JuJu right now. JuJu has not shown enough yet for me to have him over Cooks. Agreed with everything else.

Then again, AB being on the cover of Madden may be a sign to buy JuJu.... :think:
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Re: Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby skip » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:59 am

Cooks >> JuJu
Kupp > Cobb, though it wouldn't surprise me if these two are equal after 2018
McKinnon > Coleman
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Re: Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:47 am

Farley wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 7:08 pm
Trevormortis wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:44 pm
Farley wrote: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:29 pm

Sorry for the unbiased response, Cooks' owners.
...yup.. and a JuJu owner, and a Kupp owner...annnnndddddd all on the same team. My bad. :wall:
Yep. And I own them on a couple of teams, too.

Plus I can read expert rankings and ADP data that shows me it's not laughable to prefer JuJu over Cooks. But keep smashing your head on the wall...maybe you'll get those synapses firing.
I think the laughable part was that juju is more consistent game to game. That's a bridge too far in the "Cooks is too inconsistent" hot taek. Juju has like 2 good games in his career so far.
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Re: Cooks++ v JuJu++

Postby topher » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:58 am

This is a close one....Gonna wipe out Cooks/Juju and say I would prefer Kupp/Coleman side.....if I were to take the McKinnon side, I would be looking to flip him.


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