Nick Chubb Thread: Chubb = Stud
Re: Why is Chubb falling?
I feel like Chubb is getting more threads than anyone in the last couple months.
Re: Why is Chubb falling?
Not so many are "Chubb-y Chasing" ... They figure they can settle for that at a later time, just before closing time after all of "her" sexy, hot friends like Penny & Michel have hooked up with dudes.
Be glad you got "stuck" with less sexy pickup. Odds are your long term relationship will be better. Although I prefer "Guice" myself.
Be glad you got "stuck" with less sexy pickup. Odds are your long term relationship will be better. Although I prefer "Guice" myself.
Re: Why is Chubb falling?
Fell to 1.12 in 16 Team IDP draft I’m currently in
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
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DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
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Re: Why is Chubb falling?
predraft i had him 2 or 3. post draft, i wont touch until 8 (which is a bargain in my book). i dont trust the browns and that destination has to scare people. its strictly a guess....but i do see him falling in most drafts, although i think he's been gone by 7 in all (nearly all) of my drafts.
something seems fishy here for me aswell. but i cant bring myself to take the plunge with others on the board. his fall has actually led me to trading up to the 6-8 range in a lot of leagues in hopes that he makes it to me in my late drafts. in the long run, i may end up settling for the "rb that slips"....but if chubb doesnt make it...there are quality players there aswell.
something seems fishy here for me aswell. but i cant bring myself to take the plunge with others on the board. his fall has actually led me to trading up to the 6-8 range in a lot of leagues in hopes that he makes it to me in my late drafts. in the long run, i may end up settling for the "rb that slips"....but if chubb doesnt make it...there are quality players there aswell.
Re: Why is Chubb falling?
Maybe because this analytics darling is now capping his upside for the next four years, and after the extension became official it took a few weeks for its impact to fully register with regard to ADP. That's my guess.
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Re: Why is Chubb falling?
It's a 3 year extension with only half the money guaranteed, so how does that equate to four years??? Wouldn't they be able to cut him sooner if possible? Genuinely curious, as I can't find the details right now.ninotoreS wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:55 pm Maybe because this analytics darling is now capping his upside for the next four years, and after the extension became official it took a few weeks for its impact to fully register with regard to ADP. That's my guess.
I'm really high on Chubb, but I never expected him to be a 3 down back regularly. Same with Guice. Only a handful of those guys around in the NFL.
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Re: Why is Chubb falling?
i cannot believe you guys brought up dj. he is irrelevant.
Re: Why is Chubb falling?
Only one of the most effective per touch running-backs in football at every aspect of the position. Oh yeah, irrelevant.
Spotrac.com still doesn't have the information on his cap vs dead-cap hit each year throughout the deal, so I don't know when he potentially becomes viable to cut, or how frontloaded or backloaded the contract may or may not be.
Regardless, if Duke continues to be as analytically elite as he has been to this point, then it's probable he'll play out the contract. Keeping his touches capped also boosts his odds to maintain good health.
The extension begins after this season, so it's four years including '18.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:05 pmIt's a 3 year extension with only half the money guaranteed, so how does that equate to four years??? Wouldn't they be able to cut him sooner if possible?ninotoreS wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:55 pm Maybe because this analytics darling is now capping his upside for the next four years, and after the extension became official it took a few weeks for its impact to fully register with regard to ADP. That's my guess.
Spotrac.com still doesn't have the information on his cap vs dead-cap hit each year throughout the deal, so I don't know when he potentially becomes viable to cut, or how frontloaded or backloaded the contract may or may not be.
Regardless, if Duke continues to be as analytically elite as he has been to this point, then it's probable he'll play out the contract. Keeping his touches capped also boosts his odds to maintain good health.
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Re: Why is Chubb falling?
if chubb proves to be the player that most are drafting....dj is a lost factor here. its no secret that haley will roll with 1 rb...if chubb, hyde, dj...can earn that....its their job to lose. i would not get wrapped up in the situation here.....other than "its the browns".ninotoreS wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:15 pm Only one of the most effective per touch running-backs in football at every aspect of the position. Oh yeah, irrelevant.
FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:05 pmIt's a 3 year extension with only half the money guaranteed, so how does that equate to four years??? Wouldn't they be able to cut him sooner if possible?ninotoreS wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:55 pm Maybe because this analytics darling is now capping his upside for the next four years, and after the extension became official it took a few weeks for its impact to fully register with regard to ADP. That's my guess.
The extension begins after this season, so it's four years including '18.
Spotrac.com still doesn't have the information on his cap vs dead-cap hit each year throughout the deal, so I don't know when he potentially becomes viable to cut, or how frontloaded or backloaded the contract may or may not be.
Regardless, if Duke continues to be as analytically elite as he has been to this point, then it's probable he'll play out the contract. Keeping his touches capped also boosts his odds to maintain good health.
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Re: Why is Chubb falling?
You can't believe the guy they just signed to a decent extension got brought up in a thread about why Chubb is falling?
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I probably should have done something more productive with that time...
I probably should have done something more productive with that time...
Re: Why is Chubb falling?
Yeah, but the situation is murky. After paying Hyde and drafting Chubb you would have thought they would let Duke walk. I think he’s very relevant to the situation. I’m not sure why Chubb proponents care that he is slipping in drafts as it makes it more likely they can get him one way or another, unless they’re getting nervous themselves.sloth8u wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:31 pmif chubb proves to be the player that most are drafting....dj is a lost factor here. its no secret that haley will roll with 1 rb...if chubb, hyde, dj...can earn that....its their job to lose. i would not get wrapped up in the situation here.....other than "its the browns".ninotoreS wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:15 pm Only one of the most effective per touch running-backs in football at every aspect of the position. Oh yeah, irrelevant.
FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:05 pm
It's a 3 year extension with only half the money guaranteed, so how does that equate to four years??? Wouldn't they be able to cut him sooner if possible?
The extension begins after this season, so it's four years including '18.
Spotrac.com still doesn't have the information on his cap vs dead-cap hit each year throughout the deal, so I don't know when he potentially becomes viable to cut, or how frontloaded or backloaded the contract may or may not be.
Regardless, if Duke continues to be as analytically elite as he has been to this point, then it's probable he'll play out the contract. Keeping his touches capped also boosts his odds to maintain good health.
Re: Why is Chubb falling?
well any Chubb that last for more than 4 hours, one should consult a doctor....
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Re: Why is Chubb falling?
Has he fallen and cannot get up?
Re: Why is Chubb falling?
I'll be Chubb-y Chasing as in today's game there's plenty of opportunity for a receiving RB & traditional RB to get number one stats in a PPR lg.
Just what teams like NE, NO , Wash , Philly, etc... do with a TD's& pounder type combined with a downfield & in space receiving threat RB allows for both to finish top twelve-twenty range.
Now before we get the deluge of "top twenty is not RB1 " let us explain. Most look at end season totals. We look @ per game basis. Nobody scores the same every week. If you can identify the games where the game flow or planning favors your guy then you can get RB1 results 8-10 times during the season from a top twenty RB.
Chubb is sinking because most don't see a path towards him being a top 5 overall alongside Zeke, Gurley, DJ (The real one) , Le'Veon and ... (enter your personal preference). Maybe no one other than Susquatch, Squanto or whatever his name is will become that guy. Penny (and possibly RoJo) has a path towards being the all down RB . Really no one else in the draft profiles as being that guy based upon destination. Guice, Chubb, Michel,Kerryon, Nyheim all have obstacles to overcome.
Of all those outside of Penny and Squanchy (as one guy named him) I will be looking to acquire Chubb. ( i like my RB's like my women... BIG BONEDed )
Just what teams like NE, NO , Wash , Philly, etc... do with a TD's& pounder type combined with a downfield & in space receiving threat RB allows for both to finish top twelve-twenty range.
Now before we get the deluge of "top twenty is not RB1 " let us explain. Most look at end season totals. We look @ per game basis. Nobody scores the same every week. If you can identify the games where the game flow or planning favors your guy then you can get RB1 results 8-10 times during the season from a top twenty RB.
Chubb is sinking because most don't see a path towards him being a top 5 overall alongside Zeke, Gurley, DJ (The real one) , Le'Veon and ... (enter your personal preference). Maybe no one other than Susquatch, Squanto or whatever his name is will become that guy. Penny (and possibly RoJo) has a path towards being the all down RB . Really no one else in the draft profiles as being that guy based upon destination. Guice, Chubb, Michel,Kerryon, Nyheim all have obstacles to overcome.
Of all those outside of Penny and Squanchy (as one guy named him) I will be looking to acquire Chubb. ( i like my RB's like my women... BIG BONEDed )
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Re: Why is Chubb falling?
I agree with most of this.sloth8u wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:10 pm predraft i had him 2 or 3. post draft, i wont touch until 8 (which is a bargain in my book). i dont trust the browns and that destination has to scare people. its strictly a guess....but i do see him falling in most drafts, although i think he's been gone by 7 in all (nearly all) of my drafts.
something seems fishy here for me aswell. but i cant bring myself to take the plunge with others on the board. his fall has actually led me to trading up to the 6-8 range in a lot of leagues in hopes that he makes it to me in my late drafts. in the long run, i may end up settling for the "rb that slips"....but if chubb doesnt make it...there are quality players there as well.
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