Hilton vs Cooks

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Hilton vs Cooks

Postby PhiladelphiaJack » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:09 pm

PPR league, let's assume we have a healthy Andrew Luck for this debate.

TY Hilton (age ~28 years, 8 months)
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Brandin Cooks (age~24 years, 10 months)

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Re: Hilton vs Cooks

Postby smallxl » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:15 am

Still take Cooks here
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Re: Hilton vs Cooks

Postby cougarplayer20 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:31 am

I say Hilton gets a slight edge because he can slide into WR1 territory while I think Cooks is capped at WR2.

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Re: Hilton vs Cooks

Postby BucFanJKE » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:06 am

Would definitely like to see some more input between these two. I have both on a team and I value Hilton slightly more because I think he has a higher ceiling. He is 4 years older though. I see Hilton as a WR1 ceiling, and WR2 floor (with Luck). And I see Cooks as a WR2 guy. I could just be overly optimistic that Luck comes back strong though.
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Re: Hilton vs Cooks

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:51 am

In general id rather have Cooks, but worries about his role year 1 in LA are legitimate. On a win-now team I might take Hilton.
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Re: Hilton vs Cooks

Postby Goddard » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:03 pm

If competing, I'd rather have Hilton. But because of the age difference, Cooks probably has slightly more dynasty value.

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Re: Hilton vs Cooks

Postby Space Cowboy » Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:25 pm

Hilton for me but it's personal preference.
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Re: Hilton vs Cooks

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:58 pm

Cooks. Age gap is pretty substantial, and the uncertainty surrounding Luck makes it an easier choice for me.
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Re: Hilton vs Cooks

Postby jcc6fd » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:55 pm

I own both. I think it’s Cooks without question. He’s 24 and has 2 WR1 finishes (and another where he was literally one spot away from being a WR1).

I have no issue with Hilton, but the only reason we’re debating the two in dynasty is irrational fear of Cook’s situation. People are looking at Watkins output last year and assuming Cooks will do the same, but Cooks is a much better, complete and consistent WR.
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Re: Hilton vs Cooks

Postby FiremanEd » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:36 am

Cooks for me due to age and Luck’s uncertainty. Cooks has also shown to be a skilled player in his own right. Hilton showed what can happen this past year, and I’d rather remove the risk of the older asset and lower production. Hilton would be focused to teams wanting to win right now...but you don’t even know if he can help you. I’ll go the safer route.

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Re: Hilton vs Cooks

Postby Z$$$ » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:25 pm

Cooks. Should do better than Watkins did in that offense. A lot more weapons to detract from him.
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