Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
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Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
Im looking to make a trade for tyreek in team 3 of my signature i am wondering if kupp + 3 2019 2nds is a slap in the face or solid offer. its a superflex league so 2nd round picks are deff more valuable than normal leagues. wondering if there is anything else you guys see that i could offer with out giving up cooper kupp to obtain tyreek hill i would ideally like to keep evans and adams and add tyreek to make it a 3 headed monster at wr
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
I’d reject that offer with no counter if I owned Tyreek. Kupp cannot be the main piece in a trade for Tyreek. Too much of a gap
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TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
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Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
i figured that might be the case but based on the information i gave what else would you suggest i do/offer?
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
Since it’s a SF league, you could maybe try Kupp and Mayfield or Kupp and Stafford. I doubt you get it done without giving up Adams, Evans, Hunt or Kamara though.
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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
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TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
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$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
Not sure what else you can offer. Adding Baker might get it done, but not sure you want to leave yourself with only 2 starting QBs.
Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
T. Hill's overall '17 PFF grade: 83.7 (11th at WR)
C. Kupp's overall '17 PFF grade: 81.2 (20th at WR)
Kupp is 0.7 years older. Hill was in his second pro season. Kupp was a rookie. Hill was the 8th best WR in half-ppr in '17. Kupp was the 26th best.
Hill had 10.0+ fantasy points 8 of 16 weeks, 15.0+ in 5 of 16 weeks, 20.0+ in 3 of 16 weeks.
Kupp had 10.0+ fantasy points 6 of 16 weeks, 15.0+ in 3 of 16 weeks, 20.0+ in 1 of 16 weeks.
Tyreek Hill is obviously worth more than Kupp, but these guys aren't in different galaxies. I all but guarantee you the gap between them in '18 will be closer than 8th vs 26th.
So I would not throw in a QB prospect as promising as Baker Mayfield in superflex. The gap between Hill and Kupp isn't big enough for that.
C. Kupp's overall '17 PFF grade: 81.2 (20th at WR)
Kupp is 0.7 years older. Hill was in his second pro season. Kupp was a rookie. Hill was the 8th best WR in half-ppr in '17. Kupp was the 26th best.
Hill had 10.0+ fantasy points 8 of 16 weeks, 15.0+ in 5 of 16 weeks, 20.0+ in 3 of 16 weeks.
Kupp had 10.0+ fantasy points 6 of 16 weeks, 15.0+ in 3 of 16 weeks, 20.0+ in 1 of 16 weeks.
Tyreek Hill is obviously worth more than Kupp, but these guys aren't in different galaxies. I all but guarantee you the gap between them in '18 will be closer than 8th vs 26th.
So I would not throw in a QB prospect as promising as Baker Mayfield in superflex. The gap between Hill and Kupp isn't big enough for that.
Last edited by ninotoreS on Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:28 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
Truth, you need a much better player on the table
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Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
This was going to be my suggestion as well. It could get it done if the Hill owner needs QB help.
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
see i kinda feel this i dont think the gap between kupp and tyreek is all that great either but more so the name youre paying for i guess im better off just sitting tightninotoreS wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:22 am T. Hill's overall '17 PFF grade: 83.7 (11th at WR)
C. Kupp's overall '17 PFF grade: 81.2 (20th at WR)
Kupp is 0.7 years older. Hill was in his second pro season. Kupp was a rookie. Hill was the 8th best WR in half-ppr in '17. Kupp was the 26th best.
Hill had 10.0+ fantasy points 8 of 16 weeks, 15.0+ in 5 of 16 weeks, 20.0+ in 3 of 16 weeks.
Kupp had 10.0+ fantasy points 6 of 16 weeks, 15.0+ in 3 of 16 weeks, 20.0+ in 1 of 16 weeks.
Tyreek Hill is obviously worth more than Kupp, but these guys aren't in different galaxies. I all but guarantee you the gap between them in '18 will be closer than 8th vs 26th.
So I would not throw in a QB prospect as promising as Baker Mayfield in superflex. The gap between Hill and Kupp isn't big enough for that.
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
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Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
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I don't think it's necessarily a slap in the face, but it's darn close.
I value Hill around the 1.03 if not 1.02, and Kupp to me is an early 2nd.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
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KITTLE, Goedert
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MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
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KELCE, Schultz
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BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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KELCE, Schultz
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Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
Really ? just on kupps value i would easily pay 1.9 for kupp maybe even 1.8lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:37 pmx2
I don't think it's necessarily a slap in the face, but it's darn close.
I value Hill around the 1.03 if not 1.02, and Kupp to me is an early 2nd.
12 team PPR SuperFlex start 9 (Same for each team)
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
TM1
QB: Rodgers, Rivers, Dak, Dalton, Smith
RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells
TM2
QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
WR:M Evans,D Adams,Kupp, AJ brown, lockett, sanders,miller, Patrick, Robinson, Hamilton, Lasley, D.Robinson, Trey Quinn, Scantling, agholor
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Irv smith, gronk, Burton
Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
I dont think the gap is as wide as some seem to. I think Kupp is a decent main piece in a package for him. See what he thinks of the deal with Baker and if its not too high of a price for you, you could always add a 2019 2nd to get it over the line
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RB: J.Ajayi; M.Mack; D.Foreman; J.Williams;R.Penny; K.Ballage; J.Adams
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RB: D.Johnson; J.McKinnon; D.Foreman; L.Blount; J.Hill; M.Breida
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TE: G.Olsen; J.Doyle; J.Cook; R.Gathers
DT: A.Robinson; L.Ogunjobi; V.Vea
DE: Y.Ngakoue; T.Flowers; M.Bennett; D.Barnett; J.Allen
LB: K.Alexander; R.Shazier; R.Foster J.Davis; J.Collins; J.Hicks; BJ.Goodson; F.Warner
CB: P.Peterson; D.Trufant; K.Fuller
S: M.Hyde; M.Farley; D.Sorensen; J.Reid
Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
I think from a talent and ceiling aspect the gap is huge. Doesn’t hurt to try though and see if the Hill owner thinks more like those that think they’re relatively close or far apart like me and some others think.
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Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
I’d keep kupp and Baker. The value gap right now is real and significant but I’m low on off the field issue guys because it always shows up. See Winston.
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Re: Kupp + ? = Tryeek Hill
if you arent willing to give baker or 2019 1st along with kupp for hill you might as well move on cause there is no way it gets accepted unless you give one of those pieces or something better. honestly kupp/baker doesnt get even get the job done for me
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