Zay Jones Debate Plus
Zay Jones Debate Plus
Traded Zay for 3.2 and got some grief. 26th player in this draft over a guy with bad handles seems good to me. Then I was told Marvin Jones is worth 4.4 and Jeremy Hill is worth at least as much. Frustrated owner I guess. Am I missing something?
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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus
I probably wouldn't have let Zay go so soon... and if I did, I'd want a mid-2nd.
Team 1 -12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTF 2022 Champ
QB: Allen, Love
RB: Mixon, AJones,,Swift, Dillon, Dobbins
WR: Jefferson, AJB, DJM, NCollins, Sutton,
TE: Hockenson
1.10
Team 2 -12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTF - 2023 Champ
QB: Murray, Love
RB: Hall, Gibbs, Walker, Dobbins, KMitchell, EMitchell
WR: DSmith, Addison, Kupp DJM, Dionte, Chark
TE: Engram, Mayer, Waller
1.02, 1.09, 2.09, 2.12
Team 3-12 Team, SF, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTFS - 2023 Champ
QB: Purdy, Dak Daniels, Stafford
RB: Taylor, Henry, Najee, Warren, ZMoss EMitchell
WR: Olave, Samuel, DJM,Sutton, Bateman, Pierce, Chark
TE: Kittle, Ertz
1.06; 2025 1st, 2nd x3
QB: Allen, Love
RB: Mixon, AJones,,Swift, Dillon, Dobbins
WR: Jefferson, AJB, DJM, NCollins, Sutton,
TE: Hockenson
1.10
Team 2 -12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTF - 2023 Champ
QB: Murray, Love
RB: Hall, Gibbs, Walker, Dobbins, KMitchell, EMitchell
WR: DSmith, Addison, Kupp DJM, Dionte, Chark
TE: Engram, Mayer, Waller
1.02, 1.09, 2.09, 2.12
Team 3-12 Team, SF, 0.5 PPR, QRRWWWTFS - 2023 Champ
QB: Purdy, Dak Daniels, Stafford
RB: Taylor, Henry, Najee, Warren, ZMoss EMitchell
WR: Olave, Samuel, DJM,Sutton, Bateman, Pierce, Chark
TE: Kittle, Ertz
1.06; 2025 1st, 2nd x3
Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus
Fair enough, but whoever pays a mid 2nd for a Bills WR who was ranked 95th last year is reaching imo. I would rather reach with the 3rd in this draft. I would of gladly sent him to you for 2.5.
Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus
WRs aren’t like Rbs where you get instant results. You have to give WRs 2-3 years to show their potential. Zay jones is in a situation where he’s going to continue to get playing time. You shouldn’t give up a player in a situation like that to go draft another player hoping he gets put into a similar situation.
It’s way to soon to give up on him. I actually think he’s going to be a solid wr.
It’s way to soon to give up on him. I actually think he’s going to be a solid wr.
16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
Picks:
2020: 2, 4, 4, 5
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
Picks:
2020: 2, 4, 4, 5
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus
I would have held Zay. Everyone is quick to forget that he had a nice breakout game mid season vs the Jets and it would have been even better had he not been tackled in a dirty way which caused a pretty significant injury. He also played with a torn labrum the entire season. His father even said Zay had a hard time holding a cup of water he was in so much pain. He also had the highest percentage of uncatchable passes thrown his way.
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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus
I would have held Zay to. 3rd round picks are crap shoots.
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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus
Dumb trade. This is the same type of trade that ends up haunting a dynasty owner. How many people gave up on a player like Nelson Agholor? He was probably traded for a low pick or even released in many leagues. Need a little patience. Much rather hold a young player a little too long and having him not pan out over trading him for junk & watching him flourish a year or two later.
PPR league, 1.5 PPR TE 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 2 flex(RB,WR,TE), 1 TE, 1 K, 1Def
QB- Kirk Cousins, Drew Brees
RB- Devanta Freeman, Kareem Hunt, Mark Ingram, Chris Carson, Chase Edmonds
WR- Deandre Hopkins, Antonio Brown, Ty Hill, E. St. Brown
TE- Zach Ertz, Kyle Rudolph, Jack Doyle
K- Brett Maher
Def- Chargers
Team 2
Same scoring as above
QB- Derek Carr, Pat Mahomes
RB- Kareem Hunt, M. Gordon, M Breida
WR- Stefan Diggs, Larry Fitz, C. Ridley, DJ Moore, J Brown, J Ross
TE- Olsen, Hurst, I. Thomas
K- J Tucker
Def- Chiefs
Team 3
Same scoring as above
QB- Justin Herbert, Tua
RB- Devin Singletary, Raheem Mostert, Myles Gaskin. Marlon Mack
WR- Deandre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Copper Kupp, Russell Gage, KJ Hamler, Julian Edelman
TE- Travis Kelce, Robert Tonyan
K- Brandon McManus
Def- Bills, Dolphins
2021- picks 4.6,5.6,6.6, 7.6
QB- Kirk Cousins, Drew Brees
RB- Devanta Freeman, Kareem Hunt, Mark Ingram, Chris Carson, Chase Edmonds
WR- Deandre Hopkins, Antonio Brown, Ty Hill, E. St. Brown
TE- Zach Ertz, Kyle Rudolph, Jack Doyle
K- Brett Maher
Def- Chargers
Team 2
Same scoring as above
QB- Derek Carr, Pat Mahomes
RB- Kareem Hunt, M. Gordon, M Breida
WR- Stefan Diggs, Larry Fitz, C. Ridley, DJ Moore, J Brown, J Ross
TE- Olsen, Hurst, I. Thomas
K- J Tucker
Def- Chiefs
Team 3
Same scoring as above
QB- Justin Herbert, Tua
RB- Devin Singletary, Raheem Mostert, Myles Gaskin. Marlon Mack
WR- Deandre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Copper Kupp, Russell Gage, KJ Hamler, Julian Edelman
TE- Travis Kelce, Robert Tonyan
K- Brandon McManus
Def- Bills, Dolphins
2021- picks 4.6,5.6,6.6, 7.6
Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus
Good points... will hold the trigger a bit longer next time. Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus
Biased Zay owner - but I would have kept him. He had a rough 1st season, but that offense with Tyrod was a mess. Hopefully they get a young QB who opens the playbook up a little. Zay has a long ways to go but I still believe in him. I don't think it is wise, in dynasty, to ditch every player who dissapoints in their rookie season
12 team league - 1/2 ppr, 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (WR/RB/TE)
QB - Dak Prescott , Alex Smith, Sam Darnold
RB - Ezekiel Elliott , Carlos Hyde , James White, TY Montgomery, Ronald Jones
WR - Mike Evans , Davante Adams , Dez Bryant, Robby Anderson, Zay Jones, Courtland Sutton
TE - Hunter Henry, Tyler Eifert, Rico Gathers, RSJ
QB - Dak Prescott , Alex Smith, Sam Darnold
RB - Ezekiel Elliott , Carlos Hyde , James White, TY Montgomery, Ronald Jones
WR - Mike Evans , Davante Adams , Dez Bryant, Robby Anderson, Zay Jones, Courtland Sutton
TE - Hunter Henry, Tyler Eifert, Rico Gathers, RSJ
Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus
Agree with others, should've held over a 3rd. I'd need a mid 2nd.
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LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, AD, Pearsall, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Moss, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Kmet, Jordan, Higbee
PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington
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Stroud, Caleb, Daniels, Cousins
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Spears, Rodriguez, Watson
St. Brown, MHJ, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Odunze, Doubs, Pearsall, Baker, Washington, Cowing, Thrash, Flournoy
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Schoonmaker, Hurst
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, AD, Pearsall, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Moss, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Kmet, Jordan, Higbee
PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington
PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF +.5TEP
Stroud, Caleb, Daniels, Cousins
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Spears, Rodriguez, Watson
St. Brown, MHJ, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Odunze, Doubs, Pearsall, Baker, Washington, Cowing, Thrash, Flournoy
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Schoonmaker, Hurst
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That's funny
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Its probably my league mates commenting. LOL
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Re: Zay Jones Debate Plus
zay's as much as a crapshoot as an early 3rd. six in one hand, half dozen in another. i say it's not a bad trade at all.
12-team, PPR, 2QB, IDP League--Start 2QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 W/R/T, 2D, 1LB, 1DL, 1DB
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, Gardner Minshew
RB: Saquon Barkley, David Montgomery, D'Onta Foreman, AJ Dillon, Kenneth Gainwell, Jeff Wilson, Rico Dowdle, IR: JK Dobbins
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Devonta Smith, Cooper Kupp, Diontae Johnson, Marquise Brown, Josh Palmer, Dontayvion Wicks, Tutu Atwell
TE: TJ Hockensen, Pat Freiermuth
K: Dustin Hopkins
LB: Roquan Smith, CJ Mosley, Terrel Bernard Ernest Jones, Quincy Williams
DL: Jonathan Greenard , Malcolm Koonce
DB: Jason Pinnock
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, Gardner Minshew
RB: Saquon Barkley, David Montgomery, D'Onta Foreman, AJ Dillon, Kenneth Gainwell, Jeff Wilson, Rico Dowdle, IR: JK Dobbins
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, Devonta Smith, Cooper Kupp, Diontae Johnson, Marquise Brown, Josh Palmer, Dontayvion Wicks, Tutu Atwell
TE: TJ Hockensen, Pat Freiermuth
K: Dustin Hopkins
LB: Roquan Smith, CJ Mosley, Terrel Bernard Ernest Jones, Quincy Williams
DL: Jonathan Greenard , Malcolm Koonce
DB: Jason Pinnock
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