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Adam Theilan value

Postby The Juggernaut » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:37 am

I was offered Adam Theilan in a trade. I'd like some help determining his value. I see he's targeted quite a bit, but i'm not very familiar otherwise. Can someone help me out with some comparable players and your projections the next few years.
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2-5 RBs Elliott, Gurley, Freeman, Coleman, Sims, Turbin, Smallwood, Dixon(IR)
3-5 WRs Green, Fitzgerald, M.Williams(LAC), Marshall(IR), Gordon(S), Fuller, Mar.Jones, Br.Miller, Hunter, Ch.Williams, Tr.Taylor
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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby joeya2001 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:38 am

Id say hes worff about tree fifidy
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2016 Champs

QB- Philip Rivers, Jimmy G, Derek Carr, Lamar Jackson,
RB-James Connor, Nick Chubb, Kenyan Drake, AP, Jalen Richard
WR-OBJ, Mike Evans, Josh Gordon, Sammy Watkins, Tyler Boyd, Taylor Gabriel, Daesean Hamilton
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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:52 am

He's for real. I wouldn't sell him for less than a projected early First.

I would compare him to Jeremy Maclin in his prime, a little bigger and not quite as fast tho.
T1
LUCK, Flacco, J Allen, Brock
MIXON, AP, Collins, Ajayi, D Martin, Chase E, R Smith
EVANS/HILL/DIGGS/KA/HILTON, ARob, Sammy, C Davis, Tre'Quan, Inman
GRONK, Vance, Herndon, Shaheen
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DL: CHANDLER/CAM JORDAN/FLOWERS, Short, Golden, Addison, Okafor, Sheard, Larry O, Matt I
LB: KENDRICKS/WARNER/ZACH C, Schobert, Williamson, R Evans, Walker, KJW, Bynes, Kyzir
DB: ADDAE/AMOS/SIMMONS, John J, Kazee, TJ Mac, Diggs

T2
RIVERS, Jimmy G, Dalton, Eli
GURLEY/DJ/MIXON, Guice, A Jones, Chase E, Gus E, Darkwa
NUK/AJG/HILL/KA, Landry, Golladay, Sammy, David Moore, J-Wash, J'Mon, JMatt
ENGRAM, Doyle, Vance, Herndon, Higbee, Everett, Maxx, Heuerman, Hollister
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DL: BUCKNER/BARNETT/GRIFFEN/HEYWARD, Golden, Short, Ogbah, Wolfe, T Bryan, Autry, Spence, Simon, Wilkerson
LB: BURFICT/WARNER/HITCHENS, Danny T, KJW, Ebukam, Walker, Vince W, M Lee
DB: GEATHERS/POYER/JOHN J, Diggs, S Williams, Kazee, Maye, Fuller

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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby izekial » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:15 am

i was just checking the boards for this very question, weird.

guy offered me Thielen for what would currently be a top 3 pick, with a very strong chance of being the number 1 overall. im right smack in the middle of my league in both record and points scored.

im leaning towards no, i guess im just not big on Thielen long term for some reason. an early first seems to be just a little higher than im willing to pay.
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QB-stafford, Luck
RB- K Hunt, A. Kamara, S Michel, K Johnson, D Guice
WR- Beckham, A THielen, S Watkins, C Davis, G Tate, C Coleman, Mike Williams, Cooper Kupp, C Godwin, A Hurns, C sutton
TE- E Ebron, Njoku, Gesicki, Goedart

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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:30 am

izekial wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:15 am
i was just checking the boards for this very question, weird.

guy offered my Thielen for what would currently be a top 3 pick, with a very strong chance of being the number 1 overall. im right smack in the middle of my league in both record and points scored.

im leaning towards no, i guess im just not big on Thielen long term for some reason. an early first seems to be just a little higher than im willing to pay.
Yeah I don't blame you on that. If it's a First from a terrible team, I'd probably hang onto it
T1
LUCK, Flacco, J Allen, Brock
MIXON, AP, Collins, Ajayi, D Martin, Chase E, R Smith
EVANS/HILL/DIGGS/KA/HILTON, ARob, Sammy, C Davis, Tre'Quan, Inman
GRONK, Vance, Herndon, Shaheen
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DL: CHANDLER/CAM JORDAN/FLOWERS, Short, Golden, Addison, Okafor, Sheard, Larry O, Matt I
LB: KENDRICKS/WARNER/ZACH C, Schobert, Williamson, R Evans, Walker, KJW, Bynes, Kyzir
DB: ADDAE/AMOS/SIMMONS, John J, Kazee, TJ Mac, Diggs

T2
RIVERS, Jimmy G, Dalton, Eli
GURLEY/DJ/MIXON, Guice, A Jones, Chase E, Gus E, Darkwa
NUK/AJG/HILL/KA, Landry, Golladay, Sammy, David Moore, J-Wash, J'Mon, JMatt
ENGRAM, Doyle, Vance, Herndon, Higbee, Everett, Maxx, Heuerman, Hollister
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DL: BUCKNER/BARNETT/GRIFFEN/HEYWARD, Golden, Short, Ogbah, Wolfe, T Bryan, Autry, Spence, Simon, Wilkerson
LB: BURFICT/WARNER/HITCHENS, Danny T, KJW, Ebukam, Walker, Vince W, M Lee
DB: GEATHERS/POYER/JOHN J, Diggs, S Williams, Kazee, Maye, Fuller

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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby hockeyBjj » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:47 am

I sold him for a late first (8-10) before his last game where he finally found the endzone :wall: :wall: :wall: . I have WR depth and felt I needed another 1st to bundle with my own to move up in the draft and get an RB since trading for non bench fodder RBs in my league is all but impossible

I think that late first was fair, but would have much rather gone mid and certainly think there are people plenty willing to pay a first for Thielen and if my team was more balanced I'd buy him for the 1.6. He has amazing hands (zero drops this season and watching live, turns a lot of balls a WR should only be able to get a hand on into catches), great routes to get separation so gets the target volume, and good but not great speed. I don't think he has a super high ceiling though. Jarvis Landry 2.0 is a pretty fair comparison in that his value is directly tied to how good the team is doing.

His biggest problem is the questionable QB play, and the QB changing so much he gets out of rythum. It's looking like it'll change again to Teddy at some point this year, unless Case can keep winning games and make it very hard for coaches to give him the hook even when Teddy is 100% and Bradford knee stop hurting him. He's a very consistent WR2 with Diggs out or slowed by injry, but has a little boom/WR3 (not bust) potential when Diggs is in and lighting it up.
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 3RB, 3WR, 1TE, (a TE2 can flex for RB3 or WR3), 1D, 1K
7-2 this season, #3 points
6th place back to back years :oops:
QB: Russell Wilson, Dalton
RB: Saquan Barkley, Dalvin Cook, James White TJ Yeldon, Lat Murray, Mark Ingram, Rashaad Penny, Theo Riddick, Jay Ajayi (ir)
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Juju Smith Jarvis Landry, T Boyd, Golden Tate, T Gabriel, T Taylor, C Rodgers, , B Zylstra,
TE: George Kittle, Rudolph, V McDonald, H Henry (ir)
D/K: Vikings, Patriots, Titans Lutz NO
picks- 2019 2,5 2020 1,4,5

team 2- 12 team ppr, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1WR/RB/TE, 1 RB/TE
8-1 this season, #1 points
2017 champions 8-)
QB: Wilson, Smith
RB: Gurley, Kamara, Yeldon, D Henry, Riddick, Henderson, P Barber, M Brown
WR:Evans, Diggs, Landry, Boyd, Arob, Godwin, Hurns, Wright, Dorsett, Higgins, Westbrook, Rattle, Perriman
TE: Kelce, Hooper, Legget
Taxi- Mayfield, Walton, Lazard, Cedrick Wilson
picks- 2019- 1,1,2,2,2,3,4,5 2020- 1,2,3,5

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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby Kana » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:33 am

izekial wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:15 am
i was just checking the boards for this very question, weird.

guy offered me Thielen for what would currently be a top 3 pick, with a very strong chance of being the number 1 overall. im right smack in the middle of my league in both record and points scored.

im leaning towards no, i guess im just not big on Thielen long term for some reason. an early first seems to be just a little higher than im willing to pay.
I'd definitely keep the pick just because you'll be able to get Thielan +++ for it if it ends up being 1.01. With that said I love Thielan and would be buying for a mid 1st.
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12 Team PPR, 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX
QB: A Rodgers, M Mariota
RB: T Gurley, L Fournette, M Ingram, B Powell, T Riddick, CJ Prosise, M Brown, C Ivory
WR: A Thielen, M Crabtree, Marvin Jones, R Anderson, W Fuller, M Bryant, P Garcon, T Pryor, John Brown, K White, D Byrd
TE: J Reed, D Njoku, C Clay, V Davis

Draft Picks:
2018: (2) 3rds, (1) 4th
2019: (1) 1st, (1) 4th

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12 Team PPR, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX
QB: K Cousins, P Rivers
RB: M Gordon, M Ingram, J Mixon, CJ Prosise, J Hill, S Vereen, M Davis
WR: K Allen, S Diggs, D Bryant , E Sanders, J Nelson, W Snead, Tyrell Williams, C Godwin, Taywan Taylor, C Williams
TE: J Graham , D Njoku

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2018: (1) 4th
2019: (1) 1st, (1) 4th

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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby izekial » Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:24 pm

i just pulled the trigger on a trade to get Thielen. i gave up 2 seconds and jerrick mckinnon. picks are both back half of the round, and likely to stay that way

i feel pretty good about it, leaguemates seem to think maybe a small overpay pending on how you feel about mckinnon. i think hes just a backup, and i had been trying to move him FOR a second or comprable wr for a couple weeks now and not even a nibble.
12 team, standard scoring. 1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 wr/te flex

QB-stafford, Luck
RB- K Hunt, A. Kamara, S Michel, K Johnson, D Guice
WR- Beckham, A THielen, S Watkins, C Davis, G Tate, C Coleman, Mike Williams, Cooper Kupp, C Godwin, A Hurns, C sutton
TE- E Ebron, Njoku, Gesicki, Goedart

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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby Cherokee » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:25 am

Jeremy Maclin in his prime is a good call
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Team 1 12 Team IDP PPR
QB- Rivers, Trubisky, Chad Kelley
RB- Tarik Cohen, TJ Yeldon, Aaron Jones, P. Lindsey, Derrick Henry
WR- Sammy Watkins, Alshon Jeffery, Tyler Lockett,
C. Godwin, R. Anderson, J Gordon, MVS
TE- Goedert
LB- Dion Jones, T. Edwards, Darius Leonard
DE- DeMarcus Lawrence
DB- Budda Baker
Taxi Squad: Antony Miller, DaeSean Hamilton, Justin Watson


Team 2 12 Team Full PPR
QB- Brees, Rivers
RB- Gurley, Joe Mixon, T.J. Yeldon, Lamar Miller, Malcolm Brown
WR- S. Watkins, Chris Hogan, Alshon Jeffery , Corey Davis, , Adam Thielen, Devin Funchess, Robbie Anderson
TE- O.J. Howard, Vance Mc, Jack Doyle
Taxi- Chad Williams, Adam Shaheen, Krishawn Hogan,

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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby Cherokee » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:25 am

Jeremy Maclin in his prime is a good call
Team 1 12 Team IDP PPR
QB- Rivers, Trubisky, Chad Kelley
RB- Tarik Cohen, TJ Yeldon, Aaron Jones, P. Lindsey, Derrick Henry
WR- Sammy Watkins, Alshon Jeffery, Tyler Lockett,
C. Godwin, R. Anderson, J Gordon, MVS
TE- Goedert
LB- Dion Jones, T. Edwards, Darius Leonard
DE- DeMarcus Lawrence
DB- Budda Baker
Taxi Squad: Antony Miller, DaeSean Hamilton, Justin Watson


Team 2 12 Team Full PPR
QB- Brees, Rivers
RB- Gurley, Joe Mixon, T.J. Yeldon, Lamar Miller, Malcolm Brown
WR- S. Watkins, Chris Hogan, Alshon Jeffery , Corey Davis, , Adam Thielen, Devin Funchess, Robbie Anderson
TE- O.J. Howard, Vance Mc, Jack Doyle
Taxi- Chad Williams, Adam Shaheen, Krishawn Hogan,

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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby Cherokee » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:26 am

So nice
Had to say it twice
Team 1 12 Team IDP PPR
QB- Rivers, Trubisky, Chad Kelley
RB- Tarik Cohen, TJ Yeldon, Aaron Jones, P. Lindsey, Derrick Henry
WR- Sammy Watkins, Alshon Jeffery, Tyler Lockett,
C. Godwin, R. Anderson, J Gordon, MVS
TE- Goedert
LB- Dion Jones, T. Edwards, Darius Leonard
DE- DeMarcus Lawrence
DB- Budda Baker
Taxi Squad: Antony Miller, DaeSean Hamilton, Justin Watson


Team 2 12 Team Full PPR
QB- Brees, Rivers
RB- Gurley, Joe Mixon, T.J. Yeldon, Lamar Miller, Malcolm Brown
WR- S. Watkins, Chris Hogan, Alshon Jeffery , Corey Davis, , Adam Thielen, Devin Funchess, Robbie Anderson
TE- O.J. Howard, Vance Mc, Jack Doyle
Taxi- Chad Williams, Adam Shaheen, Krishawn Hogan,

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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby joeya2001 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:19 pm

hopefully this guy can keep It up
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QB- Philip Rivers, Jimmy G, Derek Carr, Lamar Jackson,
RB-James Connor, Nick Chubb, Kenyan Drake, AP, Jalen Richard
WR-OBJ, Mike Evans, Josh Gordon, Sammy Watkins, Tyler Boyd, Taylor Gabriel, Daesean Hamilton
TE-O.J. Howard, George Kittle, Chris Herndon

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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby Nathan28 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:15 pm

I would buy him for like a like 1st, and sell for any top 5 pick.

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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby AlPal&Ange » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:48 pm

Id buy for a mid first, as a seller I wouldn't accept a trade for him unless it was a lock to be 1.01-1.03 or a mid first+. He is the real deal. His routes are so smooth. For a slower guy he doesn't struggle finding space.
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Re: Adam Theilan value

Postby Space Cowboy » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:14 am

Two 1sts.


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