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Re: Alvin Kamara: Good Satellite Back in Ideal Situation or True 3 Down Back Talent?
No way he ever materializes into an every-down back. Great satellite back in a good situation tho
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Good Satellite Back in Ideal Situation or True 3 Down Back Talent?
No a great big fan of Kelly yet ..but that whole team is a mess I don't doubt butch is gone if something doesn't change his qbs are god aweful..
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QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
Re: Alvin Kamara: Good Satellite Back in Ideal Situation or True 3 Down Back Talent?
Neither was ty Montgomery and that has turn out just find .. and I like Kamara,even more..look he isn't fournette but more a charles,ty type and I am perfectly fine with that .l he will be a beast imho ..Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:27 pmI don't think he's a strong runner in between the tackles. He's like a Gio Bernard to me. Use his receiver instincts all over the field and give him a few carries to keep the defense honest.Madadamus wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:39 amWhy isn't he? He is basically the same size as Dalvin Cook.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:16 am Kamara isn't a three-down back, but he's a great back for what Sean Payton wants to do in the passing game.
16 teamer
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Good Satellite Back in Ideal Situation or True 3 Down Back Talent?
I'm not knocking him but I think it's perfectly fair to point out that if he never took a beating in college, it's fair to wonder if he can handle it in the NFL. It's why he slipped to round 3.Concept Coop wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:30 amHis backup at UT is now leading the SEC in rushing. I don't think it's fair to knock Kamara for being in a time share with another stud like Kelly.Space Cowboy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:07 pm I believe he never had more than 20 touches in college in any game.
Maybe he's Jamal Charles. Maybe he's Felix jones. Sure is on the right team, he'll catch 60+ passes.
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Good Satellite Back in Ideal Situation or True 3 Down Back Talent?
Ty Montgomery is averaging 3.3 YPC in his first season as a full-time RB.
Re: Alvin Kamara: Good Satellite Back in Ideal Situation or True 3 Down Back Talent?
i think thats a pretty solid comp. the issue here is...gio never had the chance to become the 3 down back. reguardless of how you spin it...opportunity will dictate kamara going forward. i see no reason to think that he's not a threat inside the 20's.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:27 pmI don't think he's a strong runner in between the tackles. He's like a Gio Bernard to me. Use his receiver instincts all over the field and give him a few carries to keep the defense honest.Madadamus wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:39 amWhy isn't he? He is basically the same size as Dalvin Cook.Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:16 am Kamara isn't a three-down back, but he's a great back for what Sean Payton wants to do in the passing game.
as to the opportunity.....seems to me like there are touches to be had.
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Good Satellite Back in Ideal Situation or True 3 Down Back Talent?
That's certianly fair. I don't know if I'd say he slipped in the draft, however. He was the (counts on fingers) 5th back taken, just as predicted.Space Cowboy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:30 pmI'm not knocking him but I think it's perfectly fair to point out that if he never took a beating in college, it's fair to wonder if he can handle it in the NFL. It's why he slipped to round 3.Concept Coop wrote: ↑Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:30 amHis backup at UT is now leading the SEC in rushing. I don't think it's fair to knock Kamara for being in a time share with another stud like Kelly.Space Cowboy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:07 pm I believe he never had more than 20 touches in college in any game.
Maybe he's Jamal Charles. Maybe he's Felix jones. Sure is on the right team, he'll catch 60+ passes.
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Good Satellite Back in Ideal Situation or True 3 Down Back Talent?
I think the Bengals never gave him the chance because of durability. Gio can't run with a lot of power, so that's why they brought in Hill for early down/goal line work. Whereas now, you look at Mixon and he has the power of Hill and the receiving ability of Gio.sloth8u wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:39 pm i think thats a pretty solid comp. the issue here is...gio never had the chance to become the 3 down back. reguardless of how you spin it...opportunity will dictate kamara going forward. i see no reason to think that he's not a threat inside the 20's.
as to the opportunity.....seems to me like there are touches to be had.
The opportunity may be there for the Saints to try it out, but I don't think it's a preferrable move long-term.
Re: Alvin Kamara: Good Satellite Back in Ideal Situation or True 3 Down Back Talent?
Did u figure in the recieving as well? Just wonderingCameron Giles wrote: ↑Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:12 pmTy Montgomery is averaging 3.3 YPC in his first season as a full-time RB.
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QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Good Satellite Back in Ideal Situation or True 3 Down Back Talent?
I feel comfortable projecting Kamara as a high end RB2 moving forward. He's not 22 years old, has ability in both the run and pass game (even if you want to debate if he should ever average more than 10 carries per game), and while Brees tenure is limited (and Payton unknown), he has the look of a player who will hold a job. I don't want to stamp 'RB1' to his forehead, but I'm pretty happy with him moving forward as a late 1st on average draft selection. Not everyone has to be Lev Bell or DJ with 20+ and 5. Get him 12-15 touches, keep him efficient, and keep him healthy. Good enough for me.
If he can bulk up more with age, maybe his ceiling is higher. Impossible to say. Seems like a safe floor though.
If he can bulk up more with age, maybe his ceiling is higher. Impossible to say. Seems like a safe floor though.
Re: Alvin Kamara: Good Satellite Back in Ideal Situation or True 3 Down Back Talent?
I agree fireman nice analyst
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QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
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QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
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Kamara the best 2017 rb rookie?
If you're in a ppr league like me I'm starting to think Kamara may end up being the best rb in the 2017 class. Kid is dynamic.
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Re: Kamara the best 2017 rb rookie?
Possibly, you know,since aaron Jones got hurt.
Re: Kamara the best 2017 rb rookie?
I’d still have Fournette comfortably ahead of him.
After that, I think he’s jumped up into a tier with McCaffrey, Mixon, and Hunt.
In PPR, I can see a #2 ranking similarly to McCaffrey, since the Bengals look a mess in the short term.
Hunt has a few big games early, but he was grossly overvalued as a later day 2 pick getting close to round 1 start-up status.
Kamara should be locked in this role for at least 2 more years as I think this season bought Payton and Brees some extra years. He just looks so effortless out there. Yes, the offensive line is great, but he’s making a lot of plays and who knows if they move on from Ingram and make him the 1A next year.
Gun to my head, I’d rather have Kamara over Hunt. It’s close with McCaffrey and Mixon though.
After that, I think he’s jumped up into a tier with McCaffrey, Mixon, and Hunt.
In PPR, I can see a #2 ranking similarly to McCaffrey, since the Bengals look a mess in the short term.
Hunt has a few big games early, but he was grossly overvalued as a later day 2 pick getting close to round 1 start-up status.
Kamara should be locked in this role for at least 2 more years as I think this season bought Payton and Brees some extra years. He just looks so effortless out there. Yes, the offensive line is great, but he’s making a lot of plays and who knows if they move on from Ingram and make him the 1A next year.
Gun to my head, I’d rather have Kamara over Hunt. It’s close with McCaffrey and Mixon though.
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