Grade my trade - on the fence

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Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby Shcritters » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:15 am

Well... made a proposal yesterday that I'm now not super pumped about. This is a contract league, so it is a little complicated. It played out:

Gave:
- Tyrell Williams ($2 through 2022)
- Kendal Wright ($3 for 2017)
- 2018 1st (I'll likely be top 3)

Received:
- Allen Robinson ($3 for 2018), so essentially a 1-year rental
- 2018 1st (likely bottom 6)

Thoughts?
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QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Chubb, Connor, Pacheco, Mattison, DCook, Perine
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, JJeudy, CSutton, Flowers, MThomas, Slayton, DParker, CDavis, DMims
TE: DSchultz, Musgrave, MGesicki, McBride, Kraft, Dissly
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ

SafeLeague #1 (SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Purdy, Levis, DTR
RB: Pacheco + scrubs
WR: Downs, MMims, EMoore, Jeudy, MWilson + scrubs
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Mayer + scrubs
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.10, 1.12, 2.01, 2.02

SafeLeague #2
QB: Purdy, Richardson, Hooker, Willis
RB: Hull, Jackson, Vaughn, Wilson
WR: Mingo, MMims, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker (and a bunch more 2nd stringers)
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.09, 1.10, 1.12, 2.01

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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby bigheadmikele » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:19 am

What would you likely have to sign Robinson for if you were to resign him?

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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby flyersfan1981 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:23 am

Shcritters wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:15 am Well... made a proposal yesterday that I'm now not super pumped about. This is a contract league, so it is a little complicated. It played out:

Gave:
- Tyrell Williams ($2 through 2022)
- Kendal Wright ($3 for 2017)
- 2018 1st (I'll likely be top 3)

Received:
- Allen Robinson ($3 for 2018), so essentially a 1-year rental
- 2018 1st (likely bottom 6)

Thoughts?
This is so confusing to me...when you say "I'll be top 3," do you mean the pick will be a top 3 pick or is your team likely going to finish top 3 so the pick will be late.

Can you resign ARob? So many questions...
#1-12 Team .5 PPR TE Premium (20-max)

Winston, Wentz
Ingram, Jones, Dalvin Cook, Rawls, Smallwood, McGuire
Evans, Keenan, Parker, Corey Davis, Lockett, Ty Williams
Ertz
1.05/1.06/1.07

#2-12 Team .5 PPR (25-max)

Rivers, Wilson
Gurley, JStew, West, Duke, Breida, Smallwood, Joe Williams
Nuk, Alshon, Sanders, Doctson, Crowder, Carroo, Carlos Henderson
Ertz, Kittle

#3 14-team PPR (27-max) Year 2

Rodgers, Bortles
McCoy, Howard, Chubb, Crowell, Cohen, D. Martin, McGuire, Joe Williams, Breida, West, Aaron Jones
Cooks, Alshon, MBryant, Britt, Boyd, Wright, Carroo, Chad Williams
Kelce, Julius Thomas, Jesse James, Shaheen, D. Allen

#4 12-team PPR S-flex TE Prem

Wentz, Trubisky, Cutler
Kamara, Ajayi, Howard, Lacy, Mack, Elijah McGuire, Sproles, Turbin
Hopkins, Alshon, Parker, Stills, Britt, ArDarius, P Cooper, TWilliams
Brate, Green, D Allen, Higbee, Hodges, Anderson
1.02/1.10

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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby Shcritters » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:28 am

I'll likely finish in the top 3 meaning the pick will likely be 1.10-1.12, and the pick I received will likely be 1.01-1.06.

It would cost $60's to retain ARob after next year.
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PPR SF, WR & TE Premium (WR 1.2 PPR , TE 1.5 PPR), 10 total starters, 1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Chubb, Connor, Pacheco, Mattison, DCook, Perine
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, JJeudy, CSutton, Flowers, MThomas, Slayton, DParker, CDavis, DMims
TE: DSchultz, Musgrave, MGesicki, McBride, Kraft, Dissly
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ

SafeLeague #1 (SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Purdy, Levis, DTR
RB: Pacheco + scrubs
WR: Downs, MMims, EMoore, Jeudy, MWilson + scrubs
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Mayer + scrubs
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.10, 1.12, 2.01, 2.02

SafeLeague #2
QB: Purdy, Richardson, Hooker, Willis
RB: Hull, Jackson, Vaughn, Wilson
WR: Mingo, MMims, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker (and a bunch more 2nd stringers)
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.09, 1.10, 1.12, 2.01

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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby Goddard » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:32 am

Shcritters wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:28 am I'll likely finish in the top 3 meaning the pick will likely be 1.10-1.12, and the pick I received will likely be 1.01-1.06.

It would cost $60's to retain ARob after next year.
I think you did well if that's the case. You're getting the better pick and I'd still take one year of Arob over Tyrell and Wright.

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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby EAGLES » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:40 am

Contracts aside, this is a good deal. Not sure how that will affect you come 2019 when you have to poney up $60 for Robinson.
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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby flyersfan1981 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:44 am

Shcritters wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:28 am I'll likely finish in the top 3 meaning the pick will likely be 1.10-1.12, and the pick I received will likely be 1.01-1.06.

It would cost $60's to retain ARob after next year.
Then this deal is a home run...to be honest giving up 1.10/Williams/Wright to get into the top 6 of the 2018 draft (stacked at the top but not deep) is a great deal. One year of ARob is great since he is essentially free in this deal.
#1-12 Team .5 PPR TE Premium (20-max)

Winston, Wentz
Ingram, Jones, Dalvin Cook, Rawls, Smallwood, McGuire
Evans, Keenan, Parker, Corey Davis, Lockett, Ty Williams
Ertz
1.05/1.06/1.07

#2-12 Team .5 PPR (25-max)

Rivers, Wilson
Gurley, JStew, West, Duke, Breida, Smallwood, Joe Williams
Nuk, Alshon, Sanders, Doctson, Crowder, Carroo, Carlos Henderson
Ertz, Kittle

#3 14-team PPR (27-max) Year 2

Rodgers, Bortles
McCoy, Howard, Chubb, Crowell, Cohen, D. Martin, McGuire, Joe Williams, Breida, West, Aaron Jones
Cooks, Alshon, MBryant, Britt, Boyd, Wright, Carroo, Chad Williams
Kelce, Julius Thomas, Jesse James, Shaheen, D. Allen

#4 12-team PPR S-flex TE Prem

Wentz, Trubisky, Cutler
Kamara, Ajayi, Howard, Lacy, Mack, Elijah McGuire, Sproles, Turbin
Hopkins, Alshon, Parker, Stills, Britt, ArDarius, P Cooper, TWilliams
Brate, Green, D Allen, Higbee, Hodges, Anderson
1.02/1.10

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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby Slackalacker » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:44 am

Now that you clarified the picks I like this deal a lot.
TEAM 1 - 10 team SF 1PPR | 2017 & 2019 League Champ
1QB/1SF/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX
QB: Dak - Hurts - DangeRuss - Tua - Z Wilson - Mills
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Pollard - Patterson - D’Ernest - Jermar - Evans - Jones
WR: Hill - JJeff - Higgins - Hollywood - MThom(IR) - Godwin(IR) - E Moore - Marshall Jr - Calloway - Palmer - D Brown
TE: Hock - Moreau

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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby Shcritters » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:22 pm

I always try to target a team that I think won't make the playoffs and try to trade for their 1st... we'll see how this one plays out.
Gopher Two
PPR SF, WR & TE Premium (WR 1.2 PPR , TE 1.5 PPR), 10 total starters, 1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Chubb, Connor, Pacheco, Mattison, DCook, Perine
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, JJeudy, CSutton, Flowers, MThomas, Slayton, DParker, CDavis, DMims
TE: DSchultz, Musgrave, MGesicki, McBride, Kraft, Dissly
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ

SafeLeague #1 (SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Purdy, Levis, DTR
RB: Pacheco + scrubs
WR: Downs, MMims, EMoore, Jeudy, MWilson + scrubs
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Mayer + scrubs
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.10, 1.12, 2.01, 2.02

SafeLeague #2
QB: Purdy, Richardson, Hooker, Willis
RB: Hull, Jackson, Vaughn, Wilson
WR: Mingo, MMims, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker (and a bunch more 2nd stringers)
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.09, 1.10, 1.12, 2.01

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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby mmass » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:52 am

I like it after it was cleared up.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

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Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
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Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby Shcritters » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:32 pm

Circling back to this now that the playoffs are mostly done... this one turned out quite different than I expected. After completing this trade the team I traded with went on a crazy run thanks to Desean Watson, Alvin Kamara, Zach Ertz, and Robert Woods. After looking like a non-playoff team he ended up being the #1 seed in the playoffs. Herein lies the danger of doing these sort of trades!

It isn't all bad, though. Thanks to Gurley I thumped him in the playoffs, meaning his rookie pick will be the 1.10, while mine will be the 1.11 (irregardless of what happens in the Championship game). That means this trade turned out to be:

He got: 2018 1.11, Kendall Wright (who he dropped midseason), and Tyrell Williams (who he dropped midseason)
I got: 2018 1.10, 1 year of Allen Robinson (with the right to tag him if he blows up)

Small win, but as early as last week it was looking like I lost big-time as I was on the verge of losing in the 1st round of the playoffs and therefore having traded him the 1.07 pick and potentially getting back the 1.12.
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QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Chubb, Connor, Pacheco, Mattison, DCook, Perine
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, JJeudy, CSutton, Flowers, MThomas, Slayton, DParker, CDavis, DMims
TE: DSchultz, Musgrave, MGesicki, McBride, Kraft, Dissly
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ

SafeLeague #1 (SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Purdy, Levis, DTR
RB: Pacheco + scrubs
WR: Downs, MMims, EMoore, Jeudy, MWilson + scrubs
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Mayer + scrubs
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.10, 1.12, 2.01, 2.02

SafeLeague #2
QB: Purdy, Richardson, Hooker, Willis
RB: Hull, Jackson, Vaughn, Wilson
WR: Mingo, MMims, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker (and a bunch more 2nd stringers)
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.06, 1.07, 1.09, 1.10, 1.12, 2.01

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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby hockeyBjj » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:52 am

Still a clear win for you lol. Move up 1 spot in the draft and get Arob for a year for two players no longer in your league haha

Tyrell Williams shouldn't have been dropped imo tho
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QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby RB6 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:03 am

Arob side.
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LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby MrFairNY » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:41 am

I like the deal for you, even with the run he made.
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QB - Watson, Newton, Flacco
RB - Barkley, Sanders, Montgomery, White, Harris, Miller
WR - Ridley, Campbell, Samuel, Arcega-Whiteside, D. Johnson, Harmon, Higgins, Funchess
TE - Hockenson, Dissly, Heuerman, Thomas, Kroft

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RB - D. Johnson, McCaffrey, Cohen, Davis, Gaskin
WR - Hopkins, M. Thomas, Diggs, Edelman, Cobb, Hogan
TE - Kelce, Cook, McDonald
Devy - Ehlinger, Patterson, Sermon

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QB - Mahomes, Allen
RB - Elliot, Michel, Jacobs, Carson, Penny, Hines
WR - Sutton, Kirk, AJ Brown, Richardson, Beasley, Amendola
TE - Fant, Gronkowski, Dickson

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Re: Grade my trade - on the fence

Postby cvbuc » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:51 am

I understand that some will like this trade. I am not one of them. I have said numerous times on this forum that I'm not sold on Arob being the best receiver on his own team. Right now... I think the Jags have two receivers that are more talented. There is zero reason to believe that he just waltzes in and takes back the #1 role and all the targets he was getting. The Jags offense has been far more efficient without him this season. We can make tons of arguments as to why (read: defense), but the fact is that they are just fine without him and look more explosive with the likes of Lee, Deedee, and Cole.
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WR - Amon Ra, D. Smith, M. Pittman, DK Metcalf, Jayden Reed, D. Douglas, K. Shakir, D. Wicks, T. Tucker, T. Scott
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