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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby Friction » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:29 pm

Good break down of bar fighting metrics. You could take it a step further and compare the amount of fights involving your typical bar scum, college kids, multi-million dolaar athletes/entertainers, and politicians. Would be an interesting pie chart.
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby Jason3123 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:30 pm

Oh, and to answer OP's original post. I wouldn't buy McFadden for anything. Maybe a 4th. I would blow some FAAB on him. He has value as a handcuff regardless of a suspension but only in leagues deep enough where you can actually afford to roster a player who literally does nothing most weeks.

And in terms of Zeke, doesn't impact his value at all IMO. Even if Goodell struck down some bogus suspension against him.

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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby HereForTheComments » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:25 pm

I personally feel the most concerning information we have seen/ heard about Zeke is his father's quote .... "My biggest worry is ... I don't believe my son knows how to navigate in life being a superstar,"

From what we have seen so far, his father was/is right to be worried. Every few months, Zeke finds his name in the tabloids due to some immature action.

All of that aside, though, he is still a top fantasy asset.
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:32 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:30 pm Oh, and to answer OP's original post. I wouldn't buy McFadden for anything. Maybe a 4th. I would blow some FAAB on him. He has value as a handcuff regardless of a suspension but only in leagues deep enough where you can actually afford to roster a player who literally does nothing most weeks.

And in terms of Zeke, doesn't impact his value at all IMO. Even if Goodell struck down some bogus suspension against him.
Long-term, you're probably right. Most people have already forgotten Le'Veon Bell's troubles.

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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby onetwothree » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:13 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:03 pm Forgive me for being pro-player. I'm tired of all these emotional, hypocritical, uninformed people calling for every player to be executed every time they do something in public. It's exhausting and annoying.
Says the dude who proceeds to emotionally, hypocritically, and uninformedly criticize forum members. ;)

It's a hot take society and a slow news cycle. People are going to jump on every bit of news that trickles out. One witness says Zeke knocked the guy out. Another witness says somebody reached over Zeke to throw the finishing punch. The story is going to be all over the place with a lot of he said, she said for awhile.

It's just interesting when any of these incidents occur to see the line drawn and what side people take and watch their biases come out. I wonder where these same forum members came down on Mixon who had a similar one time incident at a younger age?

Goodell better be careful with punishing Zeke and going against Jerry. Without Kraft on his side, Jerry's all he has. I don't think anything will come of this. 2 game suspension announced for the previous stuff then an appeal to drop to 1 game and everyone saves face and pats themselves on the back.

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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby sugbear65 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:07 pm

Man, a lot of people get touchy when you bash Zeke a little it seems. I'm not going to comment on the suspension possibilities, but I will say Zeke has kinda rubbed me the wrong way from the door. Aside from all those other off field issues, I don't like his "feed me" celebration, I don't like the flamboyant clothes and attitude in pressers, I didn't like the way he ran around like a moron with no shirt at the skills competition at pro bowl. I'm not saying these things make him a bad person or a thug, It's just his whole persona doesn't sit well with me. But can't deny those stats though...

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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

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sugbear65 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:07 pm Man, a lot of people get touchy when you bash Zeke a little it seems. I'm not going to comment on the suspension possibilities, but I will say Zeke has kinda rubbed me the wrong way from the door. Aside from all those other off field issues, I don't like his "feed me" celebration, I don't like the flamboyant clothes and attitude in pressers, I didn't like the way he ran around like a moron with no shirt at the skills competition at pro bowl. I'm not saying these things make him a bad person or a thug, It's just his whole persona doesn't sit well with me. But can't deny those stats though...
He is kind of irritating, but isn't his personality directly linked to who he is as a player?
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby Jason3123 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:42 pm

sugbear65 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:07 pm Man, a lot of people get touchy when you bash Zeke a little it seems. I'm not going to comment on the suspension possibilities, but I will say Zeke has kinda rubbed me the wrong way from the door. Aside from all those other off field issues, I don't like his "feed me" celebration, I don't like the flamboyant clothes and attitude in pressers, I didn't like the way he ran around like a moron with no shirt at the skills competition at pro bowl. I'm not saying these things make him a bad person or a thug, It's just his whole persona doesn't sit well with me. But can't deny those stats though...
Sounds like you're kind of boring and prefer players to not have personalities. Also sounds like you hate every football player ever because every one of them does some sort of feed me persona.

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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby GridironGuerilla » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:43 pm

He's a drop in all formats.
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby sugbear65 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:04 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:42 pm
sugbear65 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:07 pm Man, a lot of people get touchy when you bash Zeke a little it seems. I'm not going to comment on the suspension possibilities, but I will say Zeke has kinda rubbed me the wrong way from the door. Aside from all those other off field issues, I don't like his "feed me" celebration, I don't like the flamboyant clothes and attitude in pressers, I didn't like the way he ran around like a moron with no shirt at the skills competition at pro bowl. I'm not saying these things make him a bad person or a thug, It's just his whole persona doesn't sit well with me. But can't deny those stats though...
Sounds like you're kind of boring and prefer players to not have personalities. Also sounds like you hate every football player ever because every one of them does some sort of feed me persona.
Nope, I actually really like some of the me first mentality players, like Sammy Watkins for example. There's a difference between a "my ball" kind of personality, and just acting like a clown. And I think Zeke is a clown. So I guess if not approving of acting like an immature self destructive dolt is boring, count me in. But rest assured I don't hate all football players, I certainly picked the wrong hobby if that were the case.

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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby thebeast » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:00 pm

GridironGuerilla wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:43 pm He's a drop in all formats.
I don't think dynasty owners should just blow this off as nothing. I would be selling - you can get tip top value for him, he has nowhere to go but down. His decision making off the field seems suspect, just a matter of time before there's a real big story, the warning signs are all there staring everyone in the face.

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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby _yeti » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:07 pm

thebeast wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:00 pm
GridironGuerilla wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:43 pm He's a drop in all formats.
I don't think dynasty owners should just blow this off as nothing. I would be selling - you can get tip top value for him, he has nowhere to go but down. His decision making off the field seems suspect, just a matter of time before there's a real big story, the warning signs are all there staring everyone in the face.
As a Zeke owner of course this crosses my mind... but what will be worse? A) a long suspension for something. B) him never getting any long suspensions and continuing to tear up the league

B would hurt too bad... if he screws up big time I think I am going to have to go down with the ship :boohoo:
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby zelldawg26 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:33 pm

It's obvious Zeke is putting himself in bad situations. I say 4 weeks and could be more in 2 months depending on his off field issues. Grab DMC and watch him gain carries throughout the season because the first few games will show that they will want to rest their starter now and again. With no Dunbar and their starting back making stupid choices, McFadden is an easy flier behind a very good line for practically free.
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby clarion contrarion » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:39 am

obviously this dude is an idiot and anyone who didn't predict future suspensions after seeing how he dressed on draft night just isn't paying attention.
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Re: Ezekiel Elliott - Possible Suspension

Postby drbuttermaker » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:31 am

Jason3123 wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:42 pm Sounds like you're kind of boring and prefer players to not have personalities. Also sounds like you hate every football player ever because every one of them does some sort of feed me persona.
Holy christ, you sound like such a douchebag.


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