Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

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Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby vbbish » Wed May 10, 2017 9:29 am

Hey guys,

Team 2 in my sig. I just traded R. Cobb for Prosise & Perriman, owner of Thomas contacted me and offered me the following

I give: 1.02, Prosise & Either 1.11 or my 2018 First.
I get: Thomas

Now I'm feeling pretty good about how the team is shaping up after a full blown 3 year rebuild. I like the idea of adding another big threat WR to go with Hopkins, Watkins & Alshon. But I also have a bunch of talent with potential in Tread, CC, DParker & Perriman.

With that said im also pretty happy sitting by and picking a stud RB with pick 1.02. Another owner has picks 1.01 & 1.03, I know he wants to get C. Davis and one of the RB's. I told him if Davis was there at 2 I would be taking him so there is a good chance ill be looking at Fournette or Mixon with 2.

I think I can probably convince him to drop the 2nd 1st or add a 2nd rounder coming back to me. But is this even something I should pursue?
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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby Space Cowboy » Wed May 10, 2017 9:36 am

1.02, a future first and an exciting RB prospect? That's too much.

I know Thomas is the flavor of the offseason but there are plenty of good WRs developing each and every year. Stay patient, there's a handful of Michael Thomas' to be had in the draft.

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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby apbohannon » Wed May 10, 2017 9:40 am

Doesn't look like you particularly need him based on your team, you do need some top end RB talent. Keep the picks and Prosise.
Team 1:
12 Teams, PPR
QB - J. Garoppolo, J. Goff, P. Mahomes
RB - Tevin Coleman, Rashaad Penny, CJ Prosise, Mike Gillislee, Derrius Guice, Tarik Cohen, Joe Mixon
WR - C. Davis , J.Doctson, Ty. Williams, T. Lockett, M. Mitchell, M. Gallup
TE - A. Hooper, OJ Howard, D. Njoku

Team 2:
12 Teams, PPR, SF
QB - A. Rodgers, A. Luck, M. Mariota, K. Lauletta
RB - K. Hunt, A. Kamara, K. Dixon, J. Adams, M. Breida, CJ Prosise, B. Scarbrough
WR - M. Evans, D. Hopkins, A. Robinson, C. Godwin, K. Golladay, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, A. Darboh, A. Lazard, I. Zamora, L. Carroo
TE - E. Engram, OJ Howard
DT - S. Day, D. Hand, D. Irving, M. Jackson, S. Williams
DE - V. Curry, K. Ealy, J. Jenkins, R. Quinn, J. Sheard, D. Walker
LB - D. Bucannon, P. Smith, D. Trevathan, S. Griffin, R. Ragland, J. Bynes, B. Hager, K. Ishmael, M. Jefferson, M. Judon, B. Marshall, C. Matthews, W. Mercilus, P. Onwuasor
DB - A. Amos, T. Apke, A. Bethea, P. Chung, D. Everett, T. Gipson, M. Hyde, G. Quin, D. Hill

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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby Kramer » Wed May 10, 2017 11:16 am

Space Cowboy wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 9:36 am 1.02, a future first and an exciting RB prospect? That's too much.

I know Thomas is the flavor of the offseason but there are plenty of good WRs developing each and every year. Stay patient, there's a handful of Michael Thomas' to be had in the draft.
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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby Mike from Canada » Wed May 10, 2017 11:19 am

I would trade 1.2, Procisse and 1.11 for Thomas.

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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby apbohannon » Wed May 10, 2017 12:35 pm

perkinsrooster wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 11:19 am I would trade 1.2, Procisse and 1.11 for Thomas.
In a vacuum I would agree with this, but if you look at team need it doesn't seem to fit. I think Thomas got a huge bump with them moving Cooks, but is he going to give you enough to offset the lack of quality RB's?
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QB - J. Garoppolo, J. Goff, P. Mahomes
RB - Tevin Coleman, Rashaad Penny, CJ Prosise, Mike Gillislee, Derrius Guice, Tarik Cohen, Joe Mixon
WR - C. Davis , J.Doctson, Ty. Williams, T. Lockett, M. Mitchell, M. Gallup
TE - A. Hooper, OJ Howard, D. Njoku

Team 2:
12 Teams, PPR, SF
QB - A. Rodgers, A. Luck, M. Mariota, K. Lauletta
RB - K. Hunt, A. Kamara, K. Dixon, J. Adams, M. Breida, CJ Prosise, B. Scarbrough
WR - M. Evans, D. Hopkins, A. Robinson, C. Godwin, K. Golladay, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, A. Darboh, A. Lazard, I. Zamora, L. Carroo
TE - E. Engram, OJ Howard
DT - S. Day, D. Hand, D. Irving, M. Jackson, S. Williams
DE - V. Curry, K. Ealy, J. Jenkins, R. Quinn, J. Sheard, D. Walker
LB - D. Bucannon, P. Smith, D. Trevathan, S. Griffin, R. Ragland, J. Bynes, B. Hager, K. Ishmael, M. Jefferson, M. Judon, B. Marshall, C. Matthews, W. Mercilus, P. Onwuasor
DB - A. Amos, T. Apke, A. Bethea, P. Chung, D. Everett, T. Gipson, M. Hyde, G. Quin, D. Hill

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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby Balzac » Wed May 10, 2017 12:36 pm

perkinsrooster wrote: Wed May 10, 2017 11:19 am I would trade 1.2, Procisse and 1.11 for Thomas.
I would too. Procisse does not excite me at all. Add him to the long list of passing down backs that never see enough work to be useful.
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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby vixen » Wed May 10, 2017 3:57 pm

counter without the other 1st....under value, but perhaps the other owner has rookie fever...
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby Coogan Football » Wed May 10, 2017 4:21 pm

If he offered that then you are crazy for not auto-accepting it.


Prosise is overrated and Thomas is about as good as you can ask for heading into his sophomore season with Drew Brees.

The 1.02 has all the lure, but I'm not as high as some are with this rookie class. The top guys all have question marks to me
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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby Calroid » Wed May 10, 2017 6:04 pm

Rookies are never guarantees. (Other than Elliott)

2 lottery tickets and a meh passing down RB for a top 15 dynasty asset with a year of proven production in the NFL.

Take Thomas

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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby pierson242 » Wed May 10, 2017 6:05 pm

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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby saw061600 » Wed May 10, 2017 6:08 pm

I'd keep the pieces. Prosise believer and think Thomas isn't going to be as productive as the #1 as everyone seems to think.
You should put up a poll.
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JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby Mitchbs » Wed May 10, 2017 6:16 pm

Prosise is a throw in, so it comes down to:

1.02 & 1.11
for
Thomas

I think value wise Thomas is the better side and you could probably flip him for more than Fournette/Mixon if you don't like him or want better RB depth.
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QB: Brees/Mariota
RB: Gordon/Crowell/White/Murray/Ajayi/I.Smith
WR: OBJ/Nuk/Cooper/Boyd/Lockett/MVS/Sanu/Sanders
TE: Kelce/Goedert/Smith/Uzomah
PK : Fairbairn
PN: Dickson
DE/DT: Ingram/Beasley
LB: David/T.Smith/McKinney/J.Brown
DB: Nea/lJenkins/Maye


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RB: Barkley/Cook/Henry/Gallman
WR: Evans/Cooper/A-Rob/Brown/Kirk/Hurns/Boyd
TE: Graham/Hooper/Higbee/Jonnu/Butt
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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby Farley » Wed May 10, 2017 6:52 pm

1.02 side and I don't feel it's close. Plus I'm not a big Prosise fan.

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Re: Michael Thomas or 1.02 +

Postby srlarson » Wed May 10, 2017 7:03 pm

3 firsts too much.....not a prosies fan.....

I would hold the 1.02 and offer the 1.11 and the 2018 first and Prosise.....then take the best RB on the board....and you upgraded both...
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