2016 Rookie IDPs

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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Postby dlf_tomk » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:44 am

yooperbacker wrote:Wow. That's what I get for taking "experts" like Mcshays word for it. He was awful in that game. He got run over in the open field and showed indecisiveness against the option. Certainly doesn't look like Deone Buchannon to me.
Totally agree with this. Looked like he didn't really understand his role in the D. And playing the option was especially bad. I say a couple missed tackles too - or at least only half-made ones. Why would you want a LB/SS hybrid who can't be relied upon in the running game?
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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Postby Team Tacos » Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:08 am

FiremanEd wrote:I'm uneasy on Dodd despite his strong showing against Bama. Not sure what it is, but that's my initial feeling.

I am very intrigued to see Jack and Jaylon in the NFL. Ragland seems like a Rolando McClain guy in my initial viewing. That is meant as a compliment, but that he's mostly a run stuffer who can make some big hits. Not sure he's ever a big play guy, though he could be schemed to make some plays perhaps.

Jack is a unique guy that I see getting more coverage time, but very well could be a David type producer (nice tackles and pass play, but low sacks), while I see Jaylon more Jamie Collins given he seems like he has more length and I can see him being used on more blitzes. I will be trying to get whichever is available at my nearest pick after the other goes come draft time.
So far I'm interested in Ragland, Jack, and Jaylon and agree with Ed above on them. Some interest in Bosa, Nkemdiche, and Buckner but that depends on landing spot for me.


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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:53 am

Deion Jones, Keanu Neal, & Jatavis Brown didn't get mentioned once! Yikes.
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RB: ZEKE, M. Lynch, Powell, D. Foreman, Yeldon, McFadden, T. Logan, Cohen
WR: A-ROB, WATKINS, A. JEFFERY, B. MARSHALL, C. DAVIS, Maclin, J. Matt, Thielen, J. Strong, Higgins, C. Hansen, I. Ford, A. Humphries, Cruz, Peake, K. Hogan
TE: CJ FIEDOROWICZ, Engram, Shaheen, Maxx Williams, R. Griffin

IDP Squad (Start 3 of each: DL, LB, DB):
DL: C. JORDAN, ANSAH, T. FLOWERS, J. Hughes, J. Casey, M. Addison, Malik Jackson, S. Thomas, T. McKinley, Chris Jones
LB: J. FREEMAN, D. HARRIS, E. JACKSON, Cunningham, Compton, R. Wilson, S. Spence, R. McMillan, Kwiatkoski, Correa, BJ Goodson, N. Vigil
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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Postby Bruiser » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:28 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:53 am
Deion Jones, Keanu Neal, & Jatavis Brown didn't get mentioned once! Yikes.
The most recent post from this thread was pre-combine, let alone pre-nfl draft. I don't do any scouting before the combine. But I did bang the table for Jatavis and Nick Vigil as my top tier (non-injured prospects). Ragland was not in my top tier pre-injury.
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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Postby ckrumm24 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:08 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:53 am
Deion Jones, Keanu Neal, & Jatavis Brown didn't get mentioned once! Yikes.
Can I get some props if I drafted 2 of the 3? :dance:
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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Postby JJDubya » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:16 pm

Can't crash a party you weren't invited to and say nobody ordered punch or the right dip!

Kidding, but ya I'm sure we'll look back on a similar 2017 thread and be able to point out the "how did he get overlooked"? Playing opportunity factored into Jack, Smith and Ragland's production for different reasons, but if they all had the opportunity to play the same way as Jones, and Jatavis was the 175th overall pick - how exactly was anyone who isn't a scout to consider him being relevant predraft, let alone precombine?

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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:58 pm

Haha sorry I didn't mean my comment to come out that way.

It was more of a, "Man I can't believe Jones & Neal weren't as highly thought of pre-draft!"
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RB: ZEKE, M. Lynch, Powell, D. Foreman, Yeldon, McFadden, T. Logan, Cohen
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TE: CJ FIEDOROWICZ, Engram, Shaheen, Maxx Williams, R. Griffin

IDP Squad (Start 3 of each: DL, LB, DB):
DL: C. JORDAN, ANSAH, T. FLOWERS, J. Hughes, J. Casey, M. Addison, Malik Jackson, S. Thomas, T. McKinley, Chris Jones
LB: J. FREEMAN, D. HARRIS, E. JACKSON, Cunningham, Compton, R. Wilson, S. Spence, R. McMillan, Kwiatkoski, Correa, BJ Goodson, N. Vigil
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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:00 pm

Bruiser wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:28 am
lukkynumber13 wrote:
Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:53 am
Deion Jones, Keanu Neal, & Jatavis Brown didn't get mentioned once! Yikes.
The most recent post from this thread was pre-combine, let alone pre-nfl draft. I don't do any scouting before the combine. But I did bang the table for Jatavis and Nick Vigil as my top tier (non-injured prospects). Ragland was not in my top tier pre-injury.
I do remember how much D. Jones' stock rose following his 40 time.

I thought Neal was always pretty highly regarded even pre draft & combine? I could certainly be wrong.
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Offensive squad (Start 1QB, 1-3RB, 2-5WR, 1-3TE):
QB: E. MANNING, Tyrod
RB: ZEKE, M. Lynch, Powell, D. Foreman, Yeldon, McFadden, T. Logan, Cohen
WR: A-ROB, WATKINS, A. JEFFERY, B. MARSHALL, C. DAVIS, Maclin, J. Matt, Thielen, J. Strong, Higgins, C. Hansen, I. Ford, A. Humphries, Cruz, Peake, K. Hogan
TE: CJ FIEDOROWICZ, Engram, Shaheen, Maxx Williams, R. Griffin

IDP Squad (Start 3 of each: DL, LB, DB):
DL: C. JORDAN, ANSAH, T. FLOWERS, J. Hughes, J. Casey, M. Addison, Malik Jackson, S. Thomas, T. McKinley, Chris Jones
LB: J. FREEMAN, D. HARRIS, E. JACKSON, Cunningham, Compton, R. Wilson, S. Spence, R. McMillan, Kwiatkoski, Correa, BJ Goodson, N. Vigil
DB: ADDAE, M. ALEXANDER, K. DILLON, Maye, Q. Wilson

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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Postby FiremanEd » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:01 pm

Landing spot was huge for both. Really fit their styles. That said, I'm still not a big Jones believer, at least not to the hype level people have him at currently.

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Re: 2016 Rookie IDPs

Postby Bruiser » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:30 pm

I agree with that. I graded him as a solid B prospect last year just below Darron Lee (B+). I had to wonder the reason to announce Kemal Ishmael move to LB last week. They gonna use him more than sub-package?
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