Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
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Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
A guy in my league offered both Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace for pick 2.10 for Team 1 below.
I don't really love it and would rather take a shot on a rookie at 2.10 but ADP would suggest that I take the deal.
What do you guys think?
I don't really love it and would rather take a shot on a rookie at 2.10 but ADP would suggest that I take the deal.
What do you guys think?
Team 1
12 team PPR, 6pts/passing TD
22 roster spots, 2 IR spots
Start:QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, FLEX (RB/WR/TE), D/ST, K
QB: A. Rodgers, M. Mariota, J. Garoppolo
RB: K. Hunt, S. Barkley, M. Gordon, J. McKinnon, M. Breida, M. Mack, M. Murphy, R. Burkhead
WR: D. Hopkins, S. Watkins, K. Allen, T. Hilton, D. Jackson, C. Sutton, C. Kirk
TE: R. Gronkowski, J. Smith, R. Seals-Jones, C. Brate
K: D. Bailey
DEF: LA Rams
2019: 4th, 5th
Team 2
12 team PPR Superflex 4pts/passing TD, -1.5/ INT
28 roster spots, 2 IR spots
Start:QB, WR, RB, TE, Superflex, 4 Flex
QB: C. Newton, D, Prescott, J. Winston, L. Jackson
WR: O. Beckham, J. Jones, B. Cooks, C. Godwin, J. Crowder, DJ Moore, C. Kirk, D. Hamilton, K. Coutee, Tre’Quan Smith, R. Foster
RB: N. Chubb, K. Johnson, A. Jones, A. Ekeler, J.Adams,
TE: E. Ebron, A. Hooper, J. Reed, T. Burton, G. Everett
2019: 1.03, 2.03, 2.04, 2.05
2020: 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 team PPR, 6pts/passing TD
22 roster spots, 2 IR spots
Start:QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, FLEX (RB/WR/TE), D/ST, K
QB: A. Rodgers, M. Mariota, J. Garoppolo
RB: K. Hunt, S. Barkley, M. Gordon, J. McKinnon, M. Breida, M. Mack, M. Murphy, R. Burkhead
WR: D. Hopkins, S. Watkins, K. Allen, T. Hilton, D. Jackson, C. Sutton, C. Kirk
TE: R. Gronkowski, J. Smith, R. Seals-Jones, C. Brate
K: D. Bailey
DEF: LA Rams
2019: 4th, 5th
Team 2
12 team PPR Superflex 4pts/passing TD, -1.5/ INT
28 roster spots, 2 IR spots
Start:QB, WR, RB, TE, Superflex, 4 Flex
QB: C. Newton, D, Prescott, J. Winston, L. Jackson
WR: O. Beckham, J. Jones, B. Cooks, C. Godwin, J. Crowder, DJ Moore, C. Kirk, D. Hamilton, K. Coutee, Tre’Quan Smith, R. Foster
RB: N. Chubb, K. Johnson, A. Jones, A. Ekeler, J.Adams,
TE: E. Ebron, A. Hooper, J. Reed, T. Burton, G. Everett
2019: 1.03, 2.03, 2.04, 2.05
2020: 3rd, 4th, 5th
Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
You need an rb but I'm not sure hill is the answer. I feel like 2.10 might be better
Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
You have 6 picks before the 2.10. I'd take the deal based on value alone.
QB: Rodgers, Darnold
RB: Chubb, Cohen, Lewis, Breida, Montgomery, Grant, Richard, Samuels, Ozigbo
WR: M Thomas (NO), Diggs, Coutee, Mike Williams, DJ Moore, Harry, AJ Brown, Enunwa, Foster, Westbrook, Pettis, R Grant, Gabriel, Quinn, D Johnson
TE : Njoku, Hockenson, Eifert
2020 Picks: RD1, RD2, RD3, RD4
12-Team, 28 Man Roster (includes 2 Taxi/2 IR), 10 Starters (1QB/2-4RB/2-5WR/1-4TE), 1 pt PPR (TE 1.25)
QB: Stafford, Rosen, Lock
RB: Chubb, Hunt, McKinnon, Bernard, Barber, Ballage; Devy: Akers, Hubbard
WR: AJG, Adams, Allen, Marv Jones, Enunwa, Allison, Coutee, Foster, DT, A Wilson, R. James, Seth Roberts, Metcalf, Harmon; Devy: T Johnson
TE: Walker, Shaheen, Dissley, Arnold, Warring
K:
DEF: Jaguars, Vikings
2020 Picks: RD1, RD3, RD4, RD5
12-Team SuperFlex Devy League, 32 Man Roster (includes 4 Taxi/Devy, 4 IR), 12 Starters Best Ball (QB1-2, RB2-5, WR3-6, TE1-4, K1, DEF1), 1 pt PPR (TE 1.5)
RB: Chubb, Cohen, Lewis, Breida, Montgomery, Grant, Richard, Samuels, Ozigbo
WR: M Thomas (NO), Diggs, Coutee, Mike Williams, DJ Moore, Harry, AJ Brown, Enunwa, Foster, Westbrook, Pettis, R Grant, Gabriel, Quinn, D Johnson
TE : Njoku, Hockenson, Eifert
2020 Picks: RD1, RD2, RD3, RD4
12-Team, 28 Man Roster (includes 2 Taxi/2 IR), 10 Starters (1QB/2-4RB/2-5WR/1-4TE), 1 pt PPR (TE 1.25)
QB: Stafford, Rosen, Lock
RB: Chubb, Hunt, McKinnon, Bernard, Barber, Ballage; Devy: Akers, Hubbard
WR: AJG, Adams, Allen, Marv Jones, Enunwa, Allison, Coutee, Foster, DT, A Wilson, R. James, Seth Roberts, Metcalf, Harmon; Devy: T Johnson
TE: Walker, Shaheen, Dissley, Arnold, Warring
K:
DEF: Jaguars, Vikings
2020 Picks: RD1, RD3, RD4, RD5
12-Team SuperFlex Devy League, 32 Man Roster (includes 4 Taxi/Devy, 4 IR), 12 Starters Best Ball (QB1-2, RB2-5, WR3-6, TE1-4, K1, DEF1), 1 pt PPR (TE 1.5)
Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
Ehh, Hill and Wallace aren't going to be helping you win. Unless you think you can flip them for something better, keep the pick.
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Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
I would take the veterans. You can start both in a pinch
Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
Roster cloggers.
You've got the other owner wanting to move them, clearly. Counter for a one of them and a better player that you do want for your next highest pick. Something in that vein. My bet is you get a good deal out of this because the other owner has getting rid of Hill and Wallace on their to-do list.
You've got the other owner wanting to move them, clearly. Counter for a one of them and a better player that you do want for your next highest pick. Something in that vein. My bet is you get a good deal out of this because the other owner has getting rid of Hill and Wallace on their to-do list.
TEAM ONE
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2020 & 2021 CHAMPS (2022 Runner Up)
Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE 1K 23 Man Active Roster / 3 TAXI SQUAD SPOT
QB - L. Jackson, Cousins
RB - Swift, Ekeler, K. Mitchell, A. Mattison, D. Foreman, C. Rodriguez, E. Mitchell, S, Tucker, J. Wilson
WR - Amon Ra, D. Smith, M. Pittman, DK Metcalf, Jayden Reed, D. Douglas, K. Shakir, D. Wicks, T. Tucker, T. Scott
TE - Kelce, C. Otton, I. Likely, D. Washington
K - B. Aubrey
DEF - Eagles, Dolphins
12 Team PPR League / 5pt passing TDs
2020 & 2021 CHAMPS (2022 Runner Up)
Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE 1K 23 Man Active Roster / 3 TAXI SQUAD SPOT
QB - L. Jackson, Cousins
RB - Swift, Ekeler, K. Mitchell, A. Mattison, D. Foreman, C. Rodriguez, E. Mitchell, S, Tucker, J. Wilson
WR - Amon Ra, D. Smith, M. Pittman, DK Metcalf, Jayden Reed, D. Douglas, K. Shakir, D. Wicks, T. Tucker, T. Scott
TE - Kelce, C. Otton, I. Likely, D. Washington
K - B. Aubrey
DEF - Eagles, Dolphins
Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
You need RB's, but you are deep at WR. There are probably 5-6 RB's in this draft with more upside than Hill and you are giving the 22nd pick in draft up for him? Don't do it. And forget Wallace. Use that pick on Cooper Kupp or some other long shot. You have plenty of opportunity to get a great RB with the picks you have.
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10 team, standard dynasty league, roster 22, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DST, 1 K First Year 2018 runner up
QB- Mahomes, Winston
RB- Drake, Carson, Thompson, Chubb, R Jones, Darrel Williams, Penny, Samuels
WR- Julio, Mike Williams, JUJU, Golladay, DJ Moore, McLaurin, D Johnson
TE- OJ, Hooper
IR- Butler, Guice
TS- D Henderson, J Hill
2020- 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 3rd, 4th, 5th.
10 team, standard dynasty league, roster 22, start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DST, 1 K First Year 2018 runner up
QB- Mahomes, Winston
RB- Drake, Carson, Thompson, Chubb, R Jones, Darrel Williams, Penny, Samuels
WR- Julio, Mike Williams, JUJU, Golladay, DJ Moore, McLaurin, D Johnson
TE- OJ, Hooper
IR- Butler, Guice
TS- D Henderson, J Hill
2020- 2 firsts, 2 seconds, 3rd, 4th, 5th.
Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
I can see why you're struggling over this deal. Your RB corps is so bad that Hill would arguably be the RB1 on your team, but your WR corps is so good that Wallace would be no better than your WR8. And while there may, in fact, be 5-6 RBs in this draft with more upside than Hill, 2-3 of them are going to be off the board before you make your first pick at 1.04.
I think you definitely need to take advantage of this buy-low opportunity on Hill, but you need to get Wallace out of the deal. I like cvbuc's idea of adding something on your end for Hill + a piece you can actually use, like another RB or at least a WR with better trade value than Wallace that you can try to flip for another RB. If you posted his roster and picks, it'd be easier to come up with possible counters.
I think you definitely need to take advantage of this buy-low opportunity on Hill, but you need to get Wallace out of the deal. I like cvbuc's idea of adding something on your end for Hill + a piece you can actually use, like another RB or at least a WR with better trade value than Wallace that you can try to flip for another RB. If you posted his roster and picks, it'd be easier to come up with possible counters.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
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Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
I think Hill alone is worth more than that. I would take the deal if presented to me. I imagine you could combine him with a 2nd and get into the 1st round even if you aren't a fan.
Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
Titanium Miss wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:13 am I think Hill alone is worth more than that. I would take the deal if presented to me. I imagine you could combine him with a 2nd and get into the 1st round even if you aren't a fan.
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Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
Hill won't be a Bengal forever and he is still really young. What if he goes and becomes a good comp. back in 2 years? 2nd is a steal
Team #1 (1Qb, 2RB,2WR,1TE,1Flex) 10team, 1PPR
QB - Hurts, Watson, Penix
RB - Hall, Jacobs, Mixon, Tyrone Tracey
WR - Tyreek, Jefferson, Chase, Jayden Reed, Cooper, Brian Thomas, Brendan Rice, Mooney
TE - Goedert, Kmet
Team #2 (Finished 1st)
QB - Tua, Pickett
RB - Hall, Barkley, K. Walker, James Cook
WR - Chase, D. Smith, D. Adams, Hopkins, Jameson Williams
TE - Laporta
2024 Picks: None
QB - Hurts, Watson, Penix
RB - Hall, Jacobs, Mixon, Tyrone Tracey
WR - Tyreek, Jefferson, Chase, Jayden Reed, Cooper, Brian Thomas, Brendan Rice, Mooney
TE - Goedert, Kmet
Team #2 (Finished 1st)
QB - Tua, Pickett
RB - Hall, Barkley, K. Walker, James Cook
WR - Chase, D. Smith, D. Adams, Hopkins, Jameson Williams
TE - Laporta
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Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
His roster:M-Dub wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2017 3:12 am I can see why you're struggling over this deal. Your RB corps is so bad that Hill would arguably be the RB1 on your team, but your WR corps is so good that Wallace would be no better than your WR8. And while there may, in fact, be 5-6 RBs in this draft with more upside than Hill, 2-3 of them are going to be off the board before you make your first pick at 1.04.
I think you definitely need to take advantage of this buy-low opportunity on Hill, but you need to get Wallace out of the deal. I like cvbuc's idea of adding something on your end for Hill + a piece you can actually use, like another RB or at least a WR with better trade value than Wallace that you can try to flip for another RB. If you posted his roster and picks, it'd be easier to come up with possible counters.
QB: Ryan, Roethlisberger
WR: A. Brown, J. Jones, C. Coleman, S. Shepard, C. Meredith, J. Gordon, M. Bryant, M. Wallace
RB: L. Bell, D. Freeman, D. Henry, B. Powell, J. Hill, W. Smallwood, T. West
TE: Gronk, A. Derby, T. Higbee
Picks
2017: 1.08, 4.12, 5.12
2018: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Team 1
12 team PPR, 6pts/passing TD
22 roster spots, 2 IR spots
Start:QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, FLEX (RB/WR/TE), D/ST, K
QB: A. Rodgers, M. Mariota, J. Garoppolo
RB: K. Hunt, S. Barkley, M. Gordon, J. McKinnon, M. Breida, M. Mack, M. Murphy, R. Burkhead
WR: D. Hopkins, S. Watkins, K. Allen, T. Hilton, D. Jackson, C. Sutton, C. Kirk
TE: R. Gronkowski, J. Smith, R. Seals-Jones, C. Brate
K: D. Bailey
DEF: LA Rams
2019: 4th, 5th
Team 2
12 team PPR Superflex 4pts/passing TD, -1.5/ INT
28 roster spots, 2 IR spots
Start:QB, WR, RB, TE, Superflex, 4 Flex
QB: C. Newton, D, Prescott, J. Winston, L. Jackson
WR: O. Beckham, J. Jones, B. Cooks, C. Godwin, J. Crowder, DJ Moore, C. Kirk, D. Hamilton, K. Coutee, Tre’Quan Smith, R. Foster
RB: N. Chubb, K. Johnson, A. Jones, A. Ekeler, J.Adams,
TE: E. Ebron, A. Hooper, J. Reed, T. Burton, G. Everett
2019: 1.03, 2.03, 2.04, 2.05
2020: 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 team PPR, 6pts/passing TD
22 roster spots, 2 IR spots
Start:QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, FLEX (RB/WR/TE), D/ST, K
QB: A. Rodgers, M. Mariota, J. Garoppolo
RB: K. Hunt, S. Barkley, M. Gordon, J. McKinnon, M. Breida, M. Mack, M. Murphy, R. Burkhead
WR: D. Hopkins, S. Watkins, K. Allen, T. Hilton, D. Jackson, C. Sutton, C. Kirk
TE: R. Gronkowski, J. Smith, R. Seals-Jones, C. Brate
K: D. Bailey
DEF: LA Rams
2019: 4th, 5th
Team 2
12 team PPR Superflex 4pts/passing TD, -1.5/ INT
28 roster spots, 2 IR spots
Start:QB, WR, RB, TE, Superflex, 4 Flex
QB: C. Newton, D, Prescott, J. Winston, L. Jackson
WR: O. Beckham, J. Jones, B. Cooks, C. Godwin, J. Crowder, DJ Moore, C. Kirk, D. Hamilton, K. Coutee, Tre’Quan Smith, R. Foster
RB: N. Chubb, K. Johnson, A. Jones, A. Ekeler, J.Adams,
TE: E. Ebron, A. Hooper, J. Reed, T. Burton, G. Everett
2019: 1.03, 2.03, 2.04, 2.05
2020: 3rd, 4th, 5th
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Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
Between the two of you, you seem to have the WR market mostly cornered. I would take the deal and then look to move a WR to a WR needy team for either a RB upgrade or another RB.
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RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
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RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker
Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
I think even West would be a better throw-in than Wallace in your particular situation. You could maybe even try for something like Henry and Hill for Keenan or Crowder+.
Ultimately though, if he won't budge, just take the original deal. As others have said, Hill is worth the pick by himself, especially with your RB situation.
Ultimately though, if he won't budge, just take the original deal. As others have said, Hill is worth the pick by himself, especially with your RB situation.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
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Re: Jeremy Hill and Mike Wallace
Injuries, bye weeks and down years start piling up and Hill and Wallace will be solid fill in's for you. 2.10 is a long shot for a contributor.
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