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Postby Coogan Football » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:17 pm

Lol there was a star there, who knows what I meant. (If we are talking about Hillary though I think it's obvious what I meant, because that word describes her perfectly).


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Re: My Bernie for Hillary and the 1.09? Who ya got?

Postby brokenbrick » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:00 pm

I will trade you Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, and a 1.08 for Bernie. Willing to throw in Bob Dole if that helps, though I guess he is waiver wire fodder at this point. I also have Jeb Bush but he is going to be on IR for a hot minute.
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Postby Jason » Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:24 am

I think so much of Bernie and Hilary that'd I'd package them in a deal for Jesse Ventura, Rand Paul, and the corpse of Rob Ford.

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Postby austing » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:36 am

Coogan23 wrote:
pokerface40 wrote:
bcoogan23 wrote:If Bernie and/or Hillary were on my team I'd kill myself.....
This explains so much. Let me guess you're a Trump supporter
All that explains is that I work for what I have and I hate socialism and I don't want a [censorship] as President, the only place she belongs is prison.
Went to applaud this response and then saw it was you and laughed even harder! I knew you were good people coog hahaha preach the truth of it!
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Re: My Bernie for Hillary and the 1.09? Who ya got?

Postby joekool » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:12 pm

Ill give you Trump, Cruz and Palin for some used toilet paper.
And Bernie is on my keeper list, sorry.

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Postby PassionWeige » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:07 pm

What is scarier than Hillary in the White House is the support that Bernie has generated and the young people out there that think a Socialism is better than a Democracy. I really feel for my grand kids.

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Postby Eight7Seven » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:08 am

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Postby 23B_Mills » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:34 am

joekool wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:12 pm Ill give you Trump, Cruz and Palin for some used toilet paper.
And Bernie is on my keeper list, sorry.
Cruz belongs on the wire. I'm keeping my toilet paper.
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Postby Jfever » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:05 am

Coogan Football wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:56 am
pokerface40 wrote:
bcoogan23 wrote:If Bernie and/or Hillary were on my team I'd kill myself.....
This explains so much. Let me guess you're a Trump supporter
All that explains is that I work for what I have and I hate socialism and I don't want a [censorship] as President, the only place she belongs is prison.

You are welcome to your opinion. We all are. But.... Wow. You are actually insinuating that H.Clinton should be in prison and simultaneously you are completely ignoring the frickin HUGE elephant in the room. It is appalling and an embarrassment. I find it amusing still that otherwise seemingly semi intelligent people still to this day are supporting a political party / current President that is a known liar, cheat, a sexist and racist, has close ties to V.Putin and Russia, is against the environment if the environment costs any big business money, against the middle class, and goes against the US constitution as far as his immigration policies. Heck. He is a liar through and through. Remember, Mexico is going to pay for that wall. Remember - Repeal and replace the health care.... How'd that work out. Only had 7 years to get ready for it. Of course the Democrats weren't going to support the crap after all the crap talking that has gone on from the egotistical / childish Trump. Heck, the Republicans cant even get on the same page. You'd think that for all the crap talking about the Affordable Care act that they'd have had a plan together and one that was ready to go when and if the opportunity arose. Nope.... Not close. It makes me sick What a national embarrassment the republican party has become, and what a global embarrassment this president and his cabinet is. What a joke. Lets get the coal minors back to work. Hell.... while were at it lets give all former video store owners a huge tax break and get them back to work. Lets bring back the Blockbusters chain while we are at it. What a visionary and wise man this Trump guy is. Lets cut the EPA, lessen our restrictions on pollution, and lets worry and brag about a mere 70,000 coal jobs. Talk about living in the 1880's. How is America this stupid? Maybe we can get the federal government to do another executive order where we bring back USA made VCR's.... that would be good for the workers and our economy right?

And.... just to again try to clear up some crap about Socialism. MOST people in the USA and frankly in all developed first world countries benefit from a degree of socialism,. It isn't a negative thing. It is through a degree of socialism as to how organized and stable societies have come to be the norm in developed countries. Socialism. It is what is behind education, medicare, medicaid, social security, etc. To down play that and to ignore that, and to bitch about that is nothing shy of non informed, misguided gibberish. For example, lets say we got this 9 year old girl. Her parents tragically die in an auto accident and don't have much life insurance or a will of any kind. Who takes care of the kid. IN Coogs world - she should get a job and figure bleep out as he is against socialist support. See how stupid that is?
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Postby Coogan Football » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:45 pm

JFever wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:05 am
Coogan Football wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:56 am
pokerface40 wrote:
This explains so much. Let me guess you're a Trump supporter
All that explains is that I work for what I have and I hate socialism and I don't want a [censorship] as President, the only place she belongs is prison.

You are welcome to your opinion. We all are. But.... Wow. You are actually insinuating that H.Clinton should be in prison and simultaneously you are completely ignoring the frickin HUGE elephant in the room. It is appalling and an embarrassment. I find it amusing still that otherwise seemingly semi intelligent people still to this day are supporting a political party / current President that is a known liar, cheat, a sexist and racist, has close ties to V.Putin and Russia, is against the environment if the environment costs any big business money, against the middle class, and goes against the US constitution as far as his immigration policies. Heck. He is a liar through and through. Remember, Mexico is going to pay for that wall. Remember - Repeal and replace the health care.... How'd that work out. Only had 7 years to get ready for it. Of course the Democrats weren't going to support the crap after all the crap talking that has gone on from the egotistical / childish Trump. Heck, the Republicans cant even get on the same page. You'd think that for all the crap talking about the Affordable Care act that they'd have had a plan together and one that was ready to go when and if the opportunity arose. Nope.... Not close. It makes me sick What a national embarrassment the republican party has become, and what a global embarrassment this president and his cabinet is. What a joke. Lets get the coal minors back to work. Hell.... while were at it lets give all former video store owners a huge tax break and get them back to work. Lets bring back the Blockbusters chain while we are at it. What a visionary and wise man this Trump guy is. Lets cut the EPA, lessen our restrictions on pollution, and lets worry and brag about a mere 70,000 coal jobs. Talk about living in the 1880's. How is America this stupid? Maybe we can get the federal government to do another executive order where we bring back USA made VCR's.... that would be good for the workers and our economy right?

And.... just to again try to clear up some crap about Socialism. MOST people in the USA and frankly in all developed first world countries benefit from a degree of socialism,. It isn't a negative thing. It is through a degree of socialism as to how organized and stable societies have come to be the norm in developed countries. Socialism. It is what is behind education, medicare, medicaid, social security, etc. To down play that and to ignore that, and to bitch about that is nothing shy of non informed, misguided gibberish. For example, lets say we got this 9 year old girl. Her parents tragically die in an auto accident and don't have much life insurance or a will of any kind. Who takes care of the kid. IN Coogs world - she should get a job and figure bleep out as he is against socialist support. See how stupid that is?
I still never said that Trump is the best, I just said Hillary and Sanders were bad candidates and that the cuntbag belongs in prison. Trump being a douche liar doesn't negate my opinion of Hillary
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Re: My Bernie for Hillary and the 1.09? Who ya got?

Postby whodunnit » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:48 pm

Coogan Football wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:45 pm
JFever wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:05 am

All that explains is that I work for what I have and I hate socialism and I don't want a [censorship] as President, the only place she belongs is prison.

You are welcome to your opinion. We all are. But.... Wow. You are actually insinuating that H.Clinton should be in prison and simultaneously you are completely ignoring the frickin HUGE elephant in the room. It is appalling and an embarrassment. I find it amusing still that otherwise seemingly semi intelligent people still to this day are supporting a political party / current President that is a known liar, cheat, a sexist and racist, has close ties to V.Putin and Russia, is against the environment if the environment costs any big business money, against the middle class, and goes against the US constitution as far as his immigration policies. Heck. He is a liar through and through. Remember, Mexico is going to pay for that wall. Remember - Repeal and replace the health care.... How'd that work out. Only had 7 years to get ready for it. Of course the Democrats weren't going to support the crap after all the crap talking that has gone on from the egotistical / childish Trump. Heck, the Republicans cant even get on the same page. You'd think that for all the crap talking about the Affordable Care act that they'd have had a plan together and one that was ready to go when and if the opportunity arose. Nope.... Not close. It makes me sick What a national embarrassment the republican party has become, and what a global embarrassment this president and his cabinet is. What a joke. Lets get the coal minors back to work. Hell.... while were at it lets give all former video store owners a huge tax break and get them back to work. Lets bring back the Blockbusters chain while we are at it. What a visionary and wise man this Trump guy is. Lets cut the EPA, lessen our restrictions on pollution, and lets worry and brag about a mere 70,000 coal jobs. Talk about living in the 1880's. How is America this stupid? Maybe we can get the federal government to do another executive order where we bring back USA made VCR's.... that would be good for the workers and our economy right?

And.... just to again try to clear up some crap about Socialism. MOST people in the USA and frankly in all developed first world countries benefit from a degree of socialism,. It isn't a negative thing. It is through a degree of socialism as to how organized and stable societies have come to be the norm in developed countries. Socialism. It is what is behind education, medicare, medicaid, social security, etc. To down play that and to ignore that, and to bitch about that is nothing shy of non informed, misguided gibberish. For example, lets say we got this 9 year old girl. Her parents tragically die in an auto accident and don't have much life insurance or a will of any kind. Who takes care of the kid. IN Coogs world - she should get a job and figure bleep out as he is against socialist support. See how stupid that is?
I still never said that Trump is the best, I just said Hillary and Sanders were bad candidates and that the cuntbag belongs in prison. Trump being a douche liar doesn't negate my opinion of Hillary
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Coogan, I completely agree with that statement. While Trump is not the most ideal person to be in his position, he won. Get the 'f' over it. Hillary is a lying, treasonous witch who has way more of a sketchy background. Fever, sorry man, I respect that you're an educator, but you get blinded by the party issue too easily from what I've seen. There is no way possible you can be a living, breathing person with a brain that functions and believe that Hillary would have been a good president.
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Postby Jfever » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:10 am

Your last statement is remarkable. And, Nope, I will not "get the F over it". I would if he stopped doing stupid, short sited bs. He has, in the last 70ish days made several significant decisions. All of which I find deeply sad.

He has tried to ban immigrant travel. * unconstitutional. Unless you are an American Indian, this should bother you at your core! We (most current US citizens - are not THAT far removed, (maybe 2-4 generations or so for the majority) from being immigrants ourselves. Immigration policy cannot be handled in a way that just banns certain groups from certain countries with a blanket rule. The 9th circuit judges ruled as such, and he (Trump) - called those judges - idiots. hmm-mm? that is how I want my president to behave. I also love it when my President spends as much time as he does on twitter. I find that appalling.
He has made promises of tax cuts (for the top 1%... not for the middle class mind you) and increased military spending. Look up how that worked for G.BUSH. Look at what that approach has done in the past. Look at his promises about national dept. HE is doing the opposite. He has cut the budgets of the EPA. The institution that monitors, and is trusted with protecting our fresh clean water and air. (GREAT IDEA). He has put people in positions of control and power that are not capable of doing their jobs. He has put an emphaisis at trying to retain a 19th century source of power (COAL) rather than look toward the future (clean energy). He also said repeatedly "clean coal".... well, from my standpoint, and looking at actual coal, carbon, and how that source is used (burned), - there is no such thing as "clean coal". Sorry. He is not a visionary. He is not a problem solver, and he isn't a deal maker. Sure, he isn't Hillary but..... what he is is this - He is a tell you what you want to hear glorified used car salesman that happened to be born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Look at head of EPA and Education, look at his cabinet appointees closely. Their resume's do not match up and all of them are tied to large lobby groups and stem from strong positions of wealth with business interests.

Yes, as a matter of fact, I can be a living, breathing person with a functioning brain that functions - and I very firmly believe that Hilary would have been a better president than the lying individual that won. I myself was more of a B.Sanders supporter but he too had some flaws with his platform. Anyway, The American people were lied to, yes. His health care reform as it was presented actually did or would have done significant damage to the health care of demographic that ironically supported him the most. The middle to lower income class, the rural, the working class folks, and the less educated. He lied about a wall. He said Mexico was going to build it. He conveniently never mentioned the fact that the US and Mexico share an 600 plus mile stretch of the Rio Grand River and if we are to build a wall on our side of said river, we cut off thousands of people from the only freshwater source they have access to. hmmmm... not so simple of a task now is it? To get to the point; He lied 72% of the time he was behind a podium during his campaign. Hillary lied too (and no she isn't and hasn't been Innocent)... as do all politicians to mitigate damage or steer a point or conversation, but she did so at a 28% clip, which, sadly, is basically normal / standard for all politicians speaking publicly. The 72% by Trump says some things though. It says he is a lying businessman, or, it says he is uninformed about what he is making clams about and even sadder, it says that either the Americans that voted for him either don't know, or don't know that they don't know.... That does not make a suitable president. He is not capable of doing the job that the electoral college (not the majority of Americans) elected him to do. *** the sad thing is that the American public is blissfully unaware that they got scammed.
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Postby whodunnit » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:55 am

JFever wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:10 am Your last statement is remarkable. And, Nope, I will not "get the F over it". I would if he stopped doing stupid, short sited bs. He has, in the last 70ish days made several significant decisions. All of which I find deeply sad.

He has tried to ban immigrant travel. * unconstitutional. Unless you are an American Indian, this should bother you at your core! We (most current US citizens - are not THAT far removed, (maybe 2-4 generations or so for the majority) from being immigrants ourselves. Immigration policy cannot be handled in a way that just banns certain groups from certain countries with a blanket rule. The 9th circuit judges ruled as such, and he (Trump) - called those judges - idiots. hmm-mm? that is how I want my president to behave. I also love it when my President spends as much time as he does on twitter. I find that appalling.
He has made promises of tax cuts (for the top 1%... not for the middle class mind you) and increased military spending. Look up how that worked for G.BUSH. Look at what that approach has done in the past. Look at his promises about national dept. HE is doing the opposite. He has cut the budgets of the EPA. The institution that monitors, and is trusted with protecting our fresh clean water and air. (GREAT IDEA). He has put people in positions of control and power that are not capable of doing their jobs. He has put an emphaisis at trying to retain a 19th century source of power (COAL) rather than look toward the future (clean energy). He also said repeatedly "clean coal".... well, from my standpoint, and looking at actual coal, carbon, and how that source is used (burned), - there is no such thing as "clean coal". Sorry. He is not a visionary. He is not a problem solver, and he isn't a deal maker. Sure, he isn't Hillary but..... what he is is this - He is a tell you what you want to hear glorified used car salesman that happened to be born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Look at head of EPA and Education, look at his cabinet appointees closely. Their resume's do not match up and all of them are tied to large lobby groups and stem from strong positions of wealth with business interests.

Yes, as a matter of fact, I can be a living, breathing person with a functioning brain that functions - and I very firmly believe that Hilary would have been a better president than the lying individual that won. I myself was more of a B.Sanders supporter but he too had some flaws with his platform. Anyway, The American people were lied to, yes. His health care reform as it was presented actually did or would have done significant damage to the health care of demographic that ironically supported him the most. The middle to lower income class, the rural, the working class folks, and the less educated. He lied about a wall. He said Mexico was going to build it. He conveniently never mentioned the fact that the US and Mexico share an 600 plus mile stretch of the Rio Grand River and if we are to build a wall on our side of said river, we cut off thousands of people from the only freshwater source they have access to. hmmmm... not so simple of a task now is it? To get to the point; He lied 72% of the time he was behind a podium during his campaign. Hillary lied too (and no she isn't and hasn't been Innocent)... as do all politicians to mitigate damage or steer a point or conversation, but she did so at a 28% clip, which, sadly, is basically normal / standard for all politicians speaking publicly. The 72% by Trump says some things though. It says he is a lying businessman, or, it says he is uninformed about what he is making clams about and even sadder, it says that either the Americans that voted for him either don't know, or don't know that they don't know.... That does not make a suitable president. He is not capable of doing the job that the electoral college (not the majority of Americans) elected him to do. *** the sad thing is that the American public is blissfully unaware that they got scammed.
I'm only going to hit in this one. Something needs to be done about the immigration flow. It isn't the ones coming in legally in worried about and that argument of "we're all immigrants" is ridiculous. I was born here. I'm not an immigrant. But we have laws in place for citizenship and they are not being followed by many people trying to enter our country. You can't accept refugees simply because you feel for them without proper screening. children in the middle east start fighting with local terror cells as early as age 6. Women often times now are recruited as well. It's just irresponsible to accept anyone from anywhere in the world. Now even with proper vetting we would still have several slip through, but at least we aren't just offering thousands of them homes. Especially when we have an issue of homelessness in our own country. I think people would be more receptive towards helping said refugees if we took the time to help our own brothers and sisters at home first. It's similar to adoption whereas people feel like it says more to adopt a kid from Africa than someone in their own backyard. I would love to see everyone get a home and a good shot at life, but let's clean up our own mess before taking on others.

Also, I wish I could see how you could stand with someone like Hillary, but I just can't. There's too many things she is "supposedly" involved in for none of it to be true. If take a rude, brash rich guy over a woman who has had a hand in dealings with Syria and Iran and has way too many "suicides" and "accidental deaths" linked to her.

It may be a conspiracy theory but it's just way too frequent we hear of it for me
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Postby Jfever » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:20 am

Your last sentence - What the hell does being a woman have ANYTHING to do with it? Answer - nothing, unless you have an issue with females in positions of power. It is actually quite simple to side with Hillary over Donny Trump. All one has to do is listen to him speak for about 30 seconds, then, compare what you've heard from him to reality. Done.

Hillary, whether you like it or not, was and still is FAR more suited to be the president of our country than the fraudulent lying individual that some of you support based on the logic that well.... at least he isn't her. I mean, what the hell kind of reasoning is that!? I find it amusing that we conveniently forget things.... So, just so we are clear, you are aware of just who Putin is and what he does. If you are not, watch the news today. Also, the adoption thing. It is cheaper and easier (because of the red tape associated with our own countries mess) to adopt from out of the country. Also, the things you mention about our country are, well,.....our own fault. Lack of education, poorly written old laws, enforcement of these laws onto minorities which results in wasted money, resources, single parent families, poverty, need for assistance, etc.

And... this, I was born here, this is my country, I don't care about immigration. Well, based off of that logic, why study history at all? Why celebrate certain holidays..... F - it. So, I am clear here. WE Americans of European decent. Whether it be 2, 4, 5, generations removed. (prob closer to 2 or 3 for most), quite literally and figuratively stole this nation from the inhabitants that were her first. Christopher Columbus did NOT discover this country by the way. There were people (human beings) here.... We then, shortly there after, displaced the natives, put them where it was convenient for our intentions. Now.... just 2-4 generations later, say things like you said. Completely down playing our origins and the actual history of our country and our land. It is a disgrace of large scale proportions and this way of thinking is propagated by our current leader and even worse, many of his less than informed supporters.
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Re: My Bernie for Hillary and the 1.09? Who ya got?

Postby whodunnit » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:52 am

Easy guy, I never said anything about her being a woman making her unqualified

" a rude, brash rich guy over a woman who has had a hand in dealings with Syria and Iran and has way too many "suicides" and "accidental deaths" linked to her."

I also said I didn't vote for the guy and thought both candidates sucked because they did. So did Mr. "Everything for free" Bernie. Who pays for this free bleep? That's right, the taxpayers!!

I'm just trying to find how she's qualified. The only thing Trump said during the presidential run I agreed with was "she's been in the political office for over 30 years and what has she done?" The answer is nothing! She's just another politician who ends up looking out for herself (Yeah, trump is too) I don't know how you got so off topic talking about Putin and everything else.

And dude, Hillary really should be in prison at the end of the day. If not for treason then for lying on a sworn document and in court. Saying she didn't have private servers then the fbi said they found her servers among other things. I mean, I understand why you don't like Trump (though most information being put out is false) but how you could choose to acknowledge his faults and adamantly deny hers is just mind boggling. But I'll just remove myself from this because it's obvious you don't care what anyone else says. You're only interested in stating "facts" (that don't have any evidence to back them up, it: racist Trump) its like you're one of those guys that believes gluten intolerance is a thing and no matter how much evidence is presented that it isn't you still believe it because one guy said it is (ironically the same guy who said it isn't).... Yes I know that's off topic, but it makes sense!!! :)
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