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price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby aaronj80 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:07 am

Looking to acquire him but unsure what he is worth. Appreciate the help.
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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby Jfever » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:25 am

Offer a mid to late 2nd. Depending on your leagues starting requirements (I'm assuming its a start 1 Qb league rather than a super flex) - I wouldn't advocate overspending on a Qb. It is quite likely that Brady plays another year, possibly longer. Don't over invest on Goroppolo. I don't think at all that he is worth a 1st. I personally would feel comfortable throwing out a mid to late 2nd only because I don't hold those picks in as high of regard as some.
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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby Pac_Eddy » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:27 am

I'd offer an early third at best. Or a third plus an end of roster type of player that you can afford to dump. Like JFever says, don't spend a lot. I think he'll be traded or end up the QB of a terrible team like Cleveland, so his fantasy value will be low.
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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby FiremanEd » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:08 am

I think a 2nd is still too high in a 1QB league given where QB's usually go in rookie drafts. You could get a more proven guy with that second than Jimmy. I'd offer a 3rd and see what more he wants added. There is optimism with him, but you could be holding a roster spot another year and still not know the situation he ends up in.

In Superflex his price will likely be a 1st rounder given he's at least in the range of the rookies, and could be argued more favourable given he's ahead in the learning curve, been on an NFL field and did well, and has been learning from Brady/Hoodie. Not sure i'd jump on board with paying that price, but when you need a QB and you want youthful upside, that's often the price.

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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby skip » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:40 am

Pac_Eddy wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:27 am I'd offer an early third at best. Or a third plus an end of roster type of player that you can afford to dump. Like JFever says, don't spend a lot. I think he'll be traded or end up the QB of a terrible team like Cleveland, so his fantasy value will be low.
I'd much rather he stay in New England than be another Cleveland mistake. I wouldn't even consider being a buyer until you know whether or not he remains on the Patriots.
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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby HEADBANGER » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:50 am

1QB league is worth no rookie picks, maybe a back up player if you feel the need but I would not pay anything. There are almost always QB2 for free on the waiver wire, guys like Kaep, RG3, Smith, Flacco, Cutler can get them for nothing and play them based on match up. NO IDEA why anyone would pay a 2nd Jimmy when he is not even a starter just yet. Remember how Brock turned out for those that bought the hype? I got David Johnson 2.5 two years ago and there are many other viable rookies each year in the 2nd I rather take a shot on than what is probably a QB2. Am I missing something here?
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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby skip » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:54 am

HEADBANGER wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:50 am There are almost always QB2 for free on the waiver wire, guys like Kaep, RG3, Smith, Flacco, Cutler can get them for nothing and play them based on match up.
Maybe in small roster leagues but not in normal ones. Most leagues have all starters rostered already as well as backups like Garropolo.
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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby Madadamus » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:57 am

I'm a pretty big believer. In a 1 QB league, I'd offer a mid 3rd but that's really only if I was desperate. He should have been free a year or so ago.

I drafted him in a SuperFlex league last year over the 2.12 with the expectation he would be worth a 1st this year. Obviously if he doesn't get traded this year his price will move down to that 2nd round range again (although he wasn't on most peoples radar last year). But if he does get moved, even if it's to Cleveland, he will command a mid-to-late 1st in SuperFlex leagues. You have to figure you'd want him over guys like Manning (unless major contender), Flacco, Goff, Tannehill, Smith, Bradford, Lynch etc. And I'd easily have him over any QB in this draft although most probably won't go until late 1st this year as opposed to much earlier in previous years.
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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby HEADBANGER » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:01 am

skip wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:54 am
HEADBANGER wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:50 am There are almost always QB2 for free on the waiver wire, guys like Kaep, RG3, Smith, Flacco, Cutler can get them for nothing and play them based on match up.
Maybe in small roster leagues but not in normal ones. Most leagues have all starters rostered already as well as backups like Garropolo.

Still, a 2nd for a dude not even signed to a full time job? I am in FFPC which are short off season rosters so about 2/3 the teams carry only 1 QB off season so maybe my value are touch off. Then for a back up QB I would pay a back up WR or RB or ask the owner what they think. I don't see Jimmy being in the QB1 category. In 1 QB settings just don't see paying up especially for a QB2.
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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby skip » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:13 am

HEADBANGER wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:01 am
skip wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:54 am
HEADBANGER wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:50 am There are almost always QB2 for free on the waiver wire, guys like Kaep, RG3, Smith, Flacco, Cutler can get them for nothing and play them based on match up.
Maybe in small roster leagues but not in normal ones. Most leagues have all starters rostered already as well as backups like Garropolo.

Still, a 2nd for a dude not even signed to a full time job? I am in FFPC which are short off season rosters so about 2/3 the teams carry only 1 QB off season so maybe my value are touch off. Then for a back up QB I would pay a back up WR or RB or ask the owner what they think. I don't see Jimmy being in the QB1 category. In 1 QB settings just don't see paying up especially for a QB2.
You didn't see me advocate for a 2nd round pick nor would I. He's a backup to Tom Brady which means he isn't going to get onto the field barring an extraordinary circumstance. And given the history of the Patriots one of two things will happen... a) they keep him as a backup (keeping his value down) or b) they trade him which means he will go somewhere else and fail. Either way, he isn't worth much.
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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby srlarson » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:18 am

I have Brady and want to do the same and pick him up.....I offered Blake Bortles.....waiting to hear.
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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby ADrunkenCaveman » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:27 am

srlarson wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:18 am I have Brady and want to do the same and pick him up.....I offered Blake Bortles.....waiting to hear.
This is not a good idea!
There is no guarantee that he will be there when Brady is done.
Both Bears and Browns have said they have tons of interest in him if you have BR (Bleacher Report)
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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby Jfever » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:36 am

Ok. Some weird stuff going on here again. Do some people that post here play in 8-10 team leagues with small rosters? Also, if people were drafting David Johnson in the LATE 2nd of any league, it is fairly reflective of the competitiveness and or size of said league. I mean in my 6 dynasty leagues DJ went in the 1st round (albeit in the later part of the 1st but still....) Also, there is not a single starting qb on waivers. NOT ONE. So.... that seems strange to me. I mean... where is the competition level if an owner, any owner at any time can just go to the well and pull out a starting qb to plug in? I think we are simply not comparing apples to apples here.

I would not recommend moving Bortles for Jimmy G. Not a smart move. cancel that offer asap.

Now, if I own Tom Brady and I want to hedge my bets, and I believe in Jimmy's talent (which I do), I make a serious offer. I also am not certain that if he goes to another team he is destined to fail. NOR is the person who said that. Frankly not a one of us could make that call with certainty. I mean where the bleep does that come from? Seems like an overly certain statement on something one could just not know. Basically a thoughtless guess. Anyway, I'm not really a big betting man, but, If I were, I'd bet that he stays in NE. But, admittedly, New England does have a track record as far as the business side of things and letting FA walk... So - Flip a coin. If my gut is right, Belichick sees something in Jimmy G, and, if Goroppolo is Brady's replacement, He has a very high ceiling, if he isn't resigned or kept by NE, he has potential for a very low floor but that isn't a certainty by any means. If you want him and don't want to risk not getting him, that mid to late 2nd round pick - 3rd or so, will likely get snap accepted, if you are luke warm on him and or want to play the negotiation dance, start with the 3rd or maybe 4th. Jimmy G does have starter level Qb skill sets, so, if you believe in the talent, he isn't a bad Qb to target if you have the roster spot and the patience, One could do a lot worse.
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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby Concept Coop » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:16 pm

In a 1x QB league, I wouldn't trade anything for him and would move him for a 3rd. It's a buyers market at QB right now. I see no reason to go dumpster diving for the next Osweiler/Cassell/Kolb/Foles.

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Re: price check on Jimmy Goroppolo

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:21 pm

I just got offered (and accepted) Jimmy G for the 1.12.

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