Hey Guys,
For the team in my sig I have been offered the following deal. I need some RB depth and this deal would certainly solve that Problem, while Also stabilizing my DE a little bit. I think the value is pretty good, but the only reason why I am hesitant is because I am quite confident that one of the 1sts will be top 3 and could be the number 1.
I Give: Moncreif, James White, Cliff Avril, My 2017 1st and another 2017 1st (most likely top 3)
I Get: David Johnson, Melvin Gordon and Everson Griffen
What do you guys think of the value and if you were in my shoes would you make this deal?
David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
12 Team, 0.5 PPR, QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, 3LB, 3DL, 3DB
QB: Wilson, Tua, Mayfield
RB: Chubb, Mixon, ETN, Henderson, Hunt, Connor, Robinson
WR: Lamb, DJM, Higgins, E Moore, London, JuJu, Samuel, Shennault, Amari Rodgers, Dyami Brown
TE: Hockenson, Henry
LB: Wagner, Gary, Eric Kendricks, Zaven Collins, Thibedaux, Chandler Jones, Edmunds
DL: Young, Simmons, Barmore, Lawson, Chris Jones, Jonathan Allen
CB: Stingley JR
S: Bates
Draft Picks:
2023: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
QB: Wilson, Tua, Mayfield
RB: Chubb, Mixon, ETN, Henderson, Hunt, Connor, Robinson
WR: Lamb, DJM, Higgins, E Moore, London, JuJu, Samuel, Shennault, Amari Rodgers, Dyami Brown
TE: Hockenson, Henry
LB: Wagner, Gary, Eric Kendricks, Zaven Collins, Thibedaux, Chandler Jones, Edmunds
DL: Young, Simmons, Barmore, Lawson, Chris Jones, Jonathan Allen
CB: Stingley JR
S: Bates
Draft Picks:
2023: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2024: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Re: David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
I think DJ is probably worth the 2 17 1sts plus a tiny bit more perhaps. I would drop Gordon and the likely top 3 17 1st from the deal if you are strongly considering it.
FWIW i have no idea about IDP.
FWIW i have no idea about IDP.
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Re: David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
IDK about IDP either but my initial reaction is no freaking way.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
Re: David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
Too me your alright with your rbs now. I'd hold the 1st rd picks and wait for the rookie fever to hit next season and the value of those picks increase tremendously. I'm passing.
2015, 2017, 2022 Champ.
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
Re: David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
I tend to agree with the above- I think I'd wait for a bit at the least. Certainly if you want to try and compete more now this year, sure, do it, but if you think that even this deal doesn't get you close enough to make a run, I'd rather the picks next year.
Salary $2500 12 Team PPR,0.5pt/Carry/Comp,6pt all TD
1 QB,2 RB,2 WR,1 TE,1 WR/TE,1 K,3 DL,2 LB,3 DB
QB- Luck 165,Bradford 183
RB- Sproles 62,Pierce 90,Gerhart 20,Woodhead 5,J Randle 80,Stacy 80
WR- Harvin 116,Maclin 116,Jeffery 74,R Randle 77,M Jones 55,Brazill 6,Streater 6,Broyles 6,Hilton 63,Kerley 5,Wheaton 60
TE- Fleener 66,Rudolph 73
K- Bryant 10,Bullock 6
DL- Osi 35,Suh 31,Dumervil 7,Irvin 22,Wilfork 13,Morgan 5,Moore 15,Hunt 15
LB- DQJackson 26,Ellerbe 10,Houston 5,Freeman 5
DB- Williams 14,E Thomas 7,Rolle 13,Browner 6,W Moore 5,Milliner 5
2016 Picks-
Team 2- 24 team 2 Copies each player,ppr,1 QB,2-3 RB,2-4 WR,1-2 TE,1 K,1 DST
27 roster,3 IR,3 taxi
QB- Luck,Palmer
RB- Lacy,Yeldon,CJ Anderson,Sproles,Vereen,Grimes,Crockett,Hightower,Starks,Michael
WR- AJG,Hilton,John Brown,Moncrief,Randle,Montgomery,Dorsett,Hankerson,Royal,Steve Smith, Stills
TE- ASJ,Z Miller,Donnell,Watson,Pruitt
K- Hauschka
DST- Hou
IR-
Taxi-
2016 picks: 2.21
2017 picks: 1st,2nd,3rd
1 QB,2 RB,2 WR,1 TE,1 WR/TE,1 K,3 DL,2 LB,3 DB
QB- Luck 165,Bradford 183
RB- Sproles 62,Pierce 90,Gerhart 20,Woodhead 5,J Randle 80,Stacy 80
WR- Harvin 116,Maclin 116,Jeffery 74,R Randle 77,M Jones 55,Brazill 6,Streater 6,Broyles 6,Hilton 63,Kerley 5,Wheaton 60
TE- Fleener 66,Rudolph 73
K- Bryant 10,Bullock 6
DL- Osi 35,Suh 31,Dumervil 7,Irvin 22,Wilfork 13,Morgan 5,Moore 15,Hunt 15
LB- DQJackson 26,Ellerbe 10,Houston 5,Freeman 5
DB- Williams 14,E Thomas 7,Rolle 13,Browner 6,W Moore 5,Milliner 5
2016 Picks-
Team 2- 24 team 2 Copies each player,ppr,1 QB,2-3 RB,2-4 WR,1-2 TE,1 K,1 DST
27 roster,3 IR,3 taxi
QB- Luck,Palmer
RB- Lacy,Yeldon,CJ Anderson,Sproles,Vereen,Grimes,Crockett,Hightower,Starks,Michael
WR- AJG,Hilton,John Brown,Moncrief,Randle,Montgomery,Dorsett,Hankerson,Royal,Steve Smith, Stills
TE- ASJ,Z Miller,Donnell,Watson,Pruitt
K- Hauschka
DST- Hou
IR-
Taxi-
2016 picks: 2.21
2017 picks: 1st,2nd,3rd
Re: David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
agree that you should see if you can remove early 1st and gordon...
maybe add fuller or one of your other QBs to the deal instead
maybe add fuller or one of your other QBs to the deal instead
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
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Re: David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
No idea on IDP either but taking those players out I'd easily take the Moncrief/picks side.
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Re: David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
Please do NOT make this trade. You are selling Moncrief for wholesale and buying DJ for full retail plus markup.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
/
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
/
TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
/
TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
/
TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
/
TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
/
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
I love DJ but I wouldn't do that. Don't trade that top3 1st for anything
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Re: David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
Moncrief = DJKnyvett wrote: I Give: Moncreif, James White, Cliff Avril, My 2017 1st and another 2017 1st (most likely top 3)
I Get: David Johnson, Melvin Gordon and Everson Griffen
2017 1st > Gordon
2017 1st + White >>> Nothing
I don't play IDP so I can't comment on those.
Keep what you have. Go after cheaper RB solutions like Gore, Forte ect...
No point in massively overpaying for an overrated RB who only had 500 yards rushing last year. He's have to finish as a top 3 RB for the next few years to justify that price and the odds of that happening are slim.
Hell if you add a little bit more to Moncrief and the 2 2017 1sts you could probably make a run at Gurley or Bell. I'd just hold on to that 2017 1st and grab one of the top RBs that are coming out next year.
12 Team. Roster 22, 4 TS. PPR, TE Prem (1.75). Start 1 QB, 5 flex (2 RB Max), 1 Def, 1 K
QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
Def Patriots, Ravens
QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
Def Patriots, Ravens
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Re: David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2016 12:23 pm Please do NOT make this trade. You are selling Moncrief for wholesale and buying DJ for full retail plus markup.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
/
TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
/
TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
/
TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
/
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
/
TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
/
TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
/
TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
/
TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
/
TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: David Johnson for 2017 1sts?
Man I was so lost when reading these comments, until I realized this is an old post. lol. That deal would have been amazing for him, and most likely won him the championship. Bell, DJ AND Gordon on the same team? Holy cow. Too bad he probably didn't take it.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:58 amlukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2016 12:23 pm Please do NOT make this trade. You are selling Moncrief for wholesale and buying DJ for full retail plus markup.
10 Man IDP, .75 ppr, Big Play Bonus, TE Prem, 2 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 2 TE, 2 DT, 2 DE, 3 LB, 4 DB, 34 Keepers (17 off - 17 IDP)
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins
QB: Watson, Lawrence, Tannehill, Fitzmagic
RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook
12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins
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