Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
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cusefan115
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Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
How would you rank these three? Is there a tier break between any of them? I get the impression that Harvin has the most talent but also the most injury issues.
Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
I will probably get some remarks for this but....
Crabtree
Cruz
Harvin
The Crabtree and Cruz picks are pretty close to me but I am not a big believer in Harvin
Crabtree
Cruz
Harvin
The Crabtree and Cruz picks are pretty close to me but I am not a big believer in Harvin
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cusefan115
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Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
Interesting. That is actually the way I am leaning as well. Harvin definitely "pops" when you watch the film but I wondering how he will adjust to the new offense. Plus, his health issues worry me. I know, I know savvy fantasy footballers should buy in the face of health issues.
Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
WR7 Harvin
WR8 Cruz
WR9 Fitz
WR10 Crabtree
WR8 Cruz
WR9 Fitz
WR10 Crabtree
Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
I have Harvin as my WR6, with Cruz and Crabtree behind by 6 or so slots. Harvin continues to be undervalued due to his height.
The Great Old Ones
10-team PPR (1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1-TE, 1-D/ST, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Tua, Mac, Mills (bleh)
RB: Gordon, Drake, Perine, RoJo II, Dillon, Coleman, Sermon, Ingram, Mitchell, Barber, JJ, Bolden
WR: Kupp, DJM, Chase, Jeudy, AJG, OBJ, Shepard, Mecole, Parris, Osborn
TE: Knox, Engram,
D/ST: NE
K: Zuerlein
The Blues Brothers
10-team PPR (1-QB, 1-RB, 2-WR, 1-TE, 2-RB/WR/TE, 3-IDP, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Herbert, Hurts, Bridgewater, Winston, Wentz, Heinicke
RB: Zeke, Cook, Mixon, Moss/Singletary, McKinnon, Gio, Rhamondre, Evans, Roundtree
WR: Kupp, Adams, Nuk, Evans, Ruggs III, Sammy, Guyton, Palmer
TE: Logan, Henry, Engram, Cook, Tremble
IDP: Demario, Bush, Mosley, Jewell, Poyer, Derwin, Vander Esch
10-team PPR (1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1-TE, 1-D/ST, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Tua, Mac, Mills (bleh)
RB: Gordon, Drake, Perine, RoJo II, Dillon, Coleman, Sermon, Ingram, Mitchell, Barber, JJ, Bolden
WR: Kupp, DJM, Chase, Jeudy, AJG, OBJ, Shepard, Mecole, Parris, Osborn
TE: Knox, Engram,
D/ST: NE
K: Zuerlein
The Blues Brothers
10-team PPR (1-QB, 1-RB, 2-WR, 1-TE, 2-RB/WR/TE, 3-IDP, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Herbert, Hurts, Bridgewater, Winston, Wentz, Heinicke
RB: Zeke, Cook, Mixon, Moss/Singletary, McKinnon, Gio, Rhamondre, Evans, Roundtree
WR: Kupp, Adams, Nuk, Evans, Ruggs III, Sammy, Guyton, Palmer
TE: Logan, Henry, Engram, Cook, Tremble
IDP: Demario, Bush, Mosley, Jewell, Poyer, Derwin, Vander Esch
Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
And what you see as undervalued, I see as the exact opposite. I see him as overvalued. I cannot believe the hype on him. Its not that I don't think he is a talented WR, but I just do not think he will ever live up to expectations.Hjorimir wrote:I have Harvin as my WR6, with Cruz and Crabtree behind by 6 or so slots. Harvin continues to be undervalued due to his height.
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12 team 22 man roster .5 ppr std 6 pt td for all. Start QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, K, ST
Goff, Mariota
Mack, K Hunt, J Adams, A Jones, J Richard, I Smith, E McGuire, Lynch, Ballage
M Thomas, Godwin, Fitzgerald, Agholor, Doctson, T Smith, D Parker, Kumerow
Kittle, Herndon
12 team 22 man roster .5 ppr std 6 pt td for all. Start QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, K, ST
Goff, Mariota
Mack, K Hunt, J Adams, A Jones, J Richard, I Smith, E McGuire, Lynch, Ballage
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Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
Harvin/Cruz/Crabtree for contenders and Harvin/Crabtree/Cruz for a rebuild
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Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
In my league he averaged 17.9 points a week in 2011. In 2012, up to week 9 (so I'm including the game he got injured and went out early), he averaged 21.05 points a game. He's a total stud.
The Great Old Ones
10-team PPR (1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1-TE, 1-D/ST, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Tua, Mac, Mills (bleh)
RB: Gordon, Drake, Perine, RoJo II, Dillon, Coleman, Sermon, Ingram, Mitchell, Barber, JJ, Bolden
WR: Kupp, DJM, Chase, Jeudy, AJG, OBJ, Shepard, Mecole, Parris, Osborn
TE: Knox, Engram,
D/ST: NE
K: Zuerlein
The Blues Brothers
10-team PPR (1-QB, 1-RB, 2-WR, 1-TE, 2-RB/WR/TE, 3-IDP, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Herbert, Hurts, Bridgewater, Winston, Wentz, Heinicke
RB: Zeke, Cook, Mixon, Moss/Singletary, McKinnon, Gio, Rhamondre, Evans, Roundtree
WR: Kupp, Adams, Nuk, Evans, Ruggs III, Sammy, Guyton, Palmer
TE: Logan, Henry, Engram, Cook, Tremble
IDP: Demario, Bush, Mosley, Jewell, Poyer, Derwin, Vander Esch
10-team PPR (1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1-TE, 1-D/ST, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Tua, Mac, Mills (bleh)
RB: Gordon, Drake, Perine, RoJo II, Dillon, Coleman, Sermon, Ingram, Mitchell, Barber, JJ, Bolden
WR: Kupp, DJM, Chase, Jeudy, AJG, OBJ, Shepard, Mecole, Parris, Osborn
TE: Knox, Engram,
D/ST: NE
K: Zuerlein
The Blues Brothers
10-team PPR (1-QB, 1-RB, 2-WR, 1-TE, 2-RB/WR/TE, 3-IDP, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Herbert, Hurts, Bridgewater, Winston, Wentz, Heinicke
RB: Zeke, Cook, Mixon, Moss/Singletary, McKinnon, Gio, Rhamondre, Evans, Roundtree
WR: Kupp, Adams, Nuk, Evans, Ruggs III, Sammy, Guyton, Palmer
TE: Logan, Henry, Engram, Cook, Tremble
IDP: Demario, Bush, Mosley, Jewell, Poyer, Derwin, Vander Esch
Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
I will eat all the crow I deserve once he consistently stays on the field and puts those numbers up.Hjorimir wrote:In my league he averaged 17.9 points a week in 2011. In 2012, up to week 9 (so I'm including the game he got injured and went out early), he averaged 21.05 points a game. He's a total stud.
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12 team 22 man roster .5 ppr std 6 pt td for all. Start QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, K, ST
Goff, Mariota
Mack, K Hunt, J Adams, A Jones, J Richard, I Smith, E McGuire, Lynch, Ballage
M Thomas, Godwin, Fitzgerald, Agholor, Doctson, T Smith, D Parker, Kumerow
Kittle, Herndon
12 team 22 man roster .5 ppr std 6 pt td for all. Start QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, K, ST
Goff, Mariota
Mack, K Hunt, J Adams, A Jones, J Richard, I Smith, E McGuire, Lynch, Ballage
M Thomas, Godwin, Fitzgerald, Agholor, Doctson, T Smith, D Parker, Kumerow
Kittle, Herndon
Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
Heh, I'm not trying to get you to eat crow. I'm just making a case. =)
The Great Old Ones
10-team PPR (1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1-TE, 1-D/ST, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Tua, Mac, Mills (bleh)
RB: Gordon, Drake, Perine, RoJo II, Dillon, Coleman, Sermon, Ingram, Mitchell, Barber, JJ, Bolden
WR: Kupp, DJM, Chase, Jeudy, AJG, OBJ, Shepard, Mecole, Parris, Osborn
TE: Knox, Engram,
D/ST: NE
K: Zuerlein
The Blues Brothers
10-team PPR (1-QB, 1-RB, 2-WR, 1-TE, 2-RB/WR/TE, 3-IDP, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Herbert, Hurts, Bridgewater, Winston, Wentz, Heinicke
RB: Zeke, Cook, Mixon, Moss/Singletary, McKinnon, Gio, Rhamondre, Evans, Roundtree
WR: Kupp, Adams, Nuk, Evans, Ruggs III, Sammy, Guyton, Palmer
TE: Logan, Henry, Engram, Cook, Tremble
IDP: Demario, Bush, Mosley, Jewell, Poyer, Derwin, Vander Esch
10-team PPR (1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1-TE, 1-D/ST, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Tua, Mac, Mills (bleh)
RB: Gordon, Drake, Perine, RoJo II, Dillon, Coleman, Sermon, Ingram, Mitchell, Barber, JJ, Bolden
WR: Kupp, DJM, Chase, Jeudy, AJG, OBJ, Shepard, Mecole, Parris, Osborn
TE: Knox, Engram,
D/ST: NE
K: Zuerlein
The Blues Brothers
10-team PPR (1-QB, 1-RB, 2-WR, 1-TE, 2-RB/WR/TE, 3-IDP, 1-K)
QB: Dak, Herbert, Hurts, Bridgewater, Winston, Wentz, Heinicke
RB: Zeke, Cook, Mixon, Moss/Singletary, McKinnon, Gio, Rhamondre, Evans, Roundtree
WR: Kupp, Adams, Nuk, Evans, Ruggs III, Sammy, Guyton, Palmer
TE: Logan, Henry, Engram, Cook, Tremble
IDP: Demario, Bush, Mosley, Jewell, Poyer, Derwin, Vander Esch
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Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
Missing 3 games in 3 years before this injury isn't bad. He was also the WR7 in a year where he played under 60% of his team's snaps and had one of the least effective QBs in the game throwing his way.DAG wrote:I will eat all the crow I deserve once he consistently stays on the field and puts those numbers up.Hjorimir wrote:In my league he averaged 17.9 points a week in 2011. In 2012, up to week 9 (so I'm including the game he got injured and went out early), he averaged 21.05 points a game. He's a total stud.
10 Team/26-man dynasty/PPR/Year 10/4-6 pt TDs/2QB-2RB-2WR-2RB/WR-2TE
QB-Goff/Rosen/Lock/Grier/Luck
RB-Mack/Hunt/RoJones/Bernard/Snell/AP/Edwards/Ajayi
WR-ODB/Robinson/T.Williams/Davis/Anderson/Cobb/Renfrow
TE-Kelce/Goedert/Njoku/Rudolph/Oliver
2020 - Currently and likely 1.01, have all of my own picks
QB-Goff/Rosen/Lock/Grier/Luck
RB-Mack/Hunt/RoJones/Bernard/Snell/AP/Edwards/Ajayi
WR-ODB/Robinson/T.Williams/Davis/Anderson/Cobb/Renfrow
TE-Kelce/Goedert/Njoku/Rudolph/Oliver
2020 - Currently and likely 1.01, have all of my own picks
Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
Harvin >>>>>>>>>>> Crabtree >> Cruz.
Harvin is a much better real and fantasy football asset and this is an odd inclusion in this list. Cruz is a as much a product of a great situation as much as his talent. If for some reason he leaves the Giants I doubt he would hold close to similar fantasy value.
Harvin is a much better real and fantasy football asset and this is an odd inclusion in this list. Cruz is a as much a product of a great situation as much as his talent. If for some reason he leaves the Giants I doubt he would hold close to similar fantasy value.
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Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
EXACTLY^^^^^^^The GM wrote:Harvin >>>>>>>>>>> Crabtree >> Cruz.
Harvin is a much better real and fantasy football asset and this is an odd inclusion in this list. Cruz is a as much a product of a great situation as much as his talent. If for some reason he leaves the Giants I doubt he would hold close to similar fantasy value.
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Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
Am I the only one not on the Crabtree bandwagon? This guy was an absolute no-show until mid-year when Kap started at QB. I know he took off after that, but I want to see him do that for a full year when teams gameplan for him.
I go Harvin by a decent margin, Cruz assuming he resigns with the Giants and Eli, then Crabtree. I need to see more from Crabtree before I put him in the same group as the other 2.
I go Harvin by a decent margin, Cruz assuming he resigns with the Giants and Eli, then Crabtree. I need to see more from Crabtree before I put him in the same group as the other 2.
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Re: Crabtree v. Cruz v. Harvin
Is Crabtree really the kind of WR opposing defenses gameplan to stop? Were teams not trying to stop him the last 5-6 weeks of the season into the playoffs? He's not Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald.KCLep20 wrote:Am I the only one not on the Crabtree bandwagon? This guy was an absolute no-show until mid-year when Kap started at QB. I know he took off after that, but I want to see him do that for a full year when teams gameplan for him.
I go Harvin by a decent margin, Cruz assuming he resigns with the Giants and Eli, then Crabtree. I need to see more from Crabtree before I put him in the same group as the other 2.
I would go:
1. Harvin
2. Crabtree
3. Cruz
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