Rudolph vs. Gresham?
Rudolph vs. Gresham?
PPR league...have at it
Team 1
12 Team, SF, PPR, TEP (2PPR)
1-2QB, 2-6RB, 2-6WR, 1-5TE
10 starters, 28 roster spots
Kyler Murray, Rudolph, Brissett, Brady
Keaton Mitchell, scrubs
Jefferson, Lamb, Waddle, DeVonta Smith, Rashee Rice, Christian Watson, Dotson, Josh Palmer, Rashid Shaheed, Toney, Justyn Ross, Metchie, Ronnie Bell
Pitts, Likely
2024 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.06, 2.09, 4.02, 4.12
Team 2
12 Team, SF, PPR, TEP (2PPR)
1-2QB, 2-5RB, 3-6WR, 1-4TE
10 starters, 28 roster spots
Lawrence, Richardson, Young, Mac Jones, Lance, Brady, Bennnet, Haener
Bijan, Charbonnet, Strong Jr., scrubs
Wilson, Nacua, Flowers, Downs, Wicks, Renfrow, Ross, Bell, Metchie
Pitts, Woods
2024 Picks: 1.02, 1.05, 1.06, 1.11, 3.05, 3.06, 3.09, 4.02, 4.09
12 Team, SF, PPR, TEP (2PPR)
1-2QB, 2-6RB, 2-6WR, 1-5TE
10 starters, 28 roster spots
Kyler Murray, Rudolph, Brissett, Brady
Keaton Mitchell, scrubs
Jefferson, Lamb, Waddle, DeVonta Smith, Rashee Rice, Christian Watson, Dotson, Josh Palmer, Rashid Shaheed, Toney, Justyn Ross, Metchie, Ronnie Bell
Pitts, Likely
2024 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.06, 2.09, 4.02, 4.12
Team 2
12 Team, SF, PPR, TEP (2PPR)
1-2QB, 2-5RB, 3-6WR, 1-4TE
10 starters, 28 roster spots
Lawrence, Richardson, Young, Mac Jones, Lance, Brady, Bennnet, Haener
Bijan, Charbonnet, Strong Jr., scrubs
Wilson, Nacua, Flowers, Downs, Wicks, Renfrow, Ross, Bell, Metchie
Pitts, Woods
2024 Picks: 1.02, 1.05, 1.06, 1.11, 3.05, 3.06, 3.09, 4.02, 4.09
Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
Rudolph for me.
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Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
Rudolph by quit a bit.
10 Team/26-man dynasty/PPR/Year 10/4-6 pt TDs/2QB-2RB-2WR-2RB/WR-2TE
QB-Goff/Rosen/Lock/Grier/Luck
RB-Mack/Hunt/RoJones/Bernard/Snell/AP/Edwards/Ajayi
WR-ODB/Robinson/T.Williams/Davis/Anderson/Cobb/Renfrow
TE-Kelce/Goedert/Njoku/Rudolph/Oliver
2020 - Currently and likely 1.01, have all of my own picks
QB-Goff/Rosen/Lock/Grier/Luck
RB-Mack/Hunt/RoJones/Bernard/Snell/AP/Edwards/Ajayi
WR-ODB/Robinson/T.Williams/Davis/Anderson/Cobb/Renfrow
TE-Kelce/Goedert/Njoku/Rudolph/Oliver
2020 - Currently and likely 1.01, have all of my own picks
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Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
I like Gresham better
11th year ESPN, 0.5 PPR, 12 team
Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, FLEX, 1TE, 2LB, 2DL, 2DB, 1 IDP FLEX
QB: Luck, Stafford
RB: Henry, Michel, Penny, Coleman, AP, Ekeler
WR: OBJ, Adams, Diggs, Cooks, Jeffery, Allison, Moncrief
TE: Herndon, Doyle, Seals-Jones
LB: Kuechly, Wagner, Williamson, Kendricks, Hitchens, McMillan, J Brown (TEN)
DL: Clark, Dunlap, Hughes, Weatherly, Vernon
DB: Collins, Adams, Tartt, Bates, Peppers
Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, FLEX, 1TE, 2LB, 2DL, 2DB, 1 IDP FLEX
QB: Luck, Stafford
RB: Henry, Michel, Penny, Coleman, AP, Ekeler
WR: OBJ, Adams, Diggs, Cooks, Jeffery, Allison, Moncrief
TE: Herndon, Doyle, Seals-Jones
LB: Kuechly, Wagner, Williamson, Kendricks, Hitchens, McMillan, J Brown (TEN)
DL: Clark, Dunlap, Hughes, Weatherly, Vernon
DB: Collins, Adams, Tartt, Bates, Peppers
Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
I like them both. But I like Gresham better this year but not by much. But when confronted with the option to pick up one of them in a dynasty league where my team won't be competitive for a couple of years, I went Rudolph. Hope that helps.
Team A: 12 Team PPR, 24 Player Roster, Start 2-3RBs, 3-4WRs, 1TE
QB: Arod, Ryan, Fitz
RB: Lynch, AP, Ridley, Gerhart, Redman, Pierce
WR: AJ, Jordy, Little, Collie, Meachem, T. Young,D. Baldwin
TE: Davis
K: Kasay
Def: SF
Team B: 12 Team PPR, 24 Player Roster, Start 2-4RBs, 2-4WRs, 1-3TEs
QB: Peyton Manning, Luck and Colt McCoy
RB: Ogbonnaya, Martin, Turbin, Gray, Herron
WRs: Decker, Hankerson, Benn, Doucet, HIll, Wright, Broyles,Jenkins
TE: Rudolph, LaDarius Green
K: Hanson
Def: Bengals
QB: Arod, Ryan, Fitz
RB: Lynch, AP, Ridley, Gerhart, Redman, Pierce
WR: AJ, Jordy, Little, Collie, Meachem, T. Young,D. Baldwin
TE: Davis
K: Kasay
Def: SF
Team B: 12 Team PPR, 24 Player Roster, Start 2-4RBs, 2-4WRs, 1-3TEs
QB: Peyton Manning, Luck and Colt McCoy
RB: Ogbonnaya, Martin, Turbin, Gray, Herron
WRs: Decker, Hankerson, Benn, Doucet, HIll, Wright, Broyles,Jenkins
TE: Rudolph, LaDarius Green
K: Hanson
Def: Bengals
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Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
Too close to call for me...To be fair, I need to see Rudolph get extended playing time.
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Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
Vikes are REALLY HIGH on Rudolph so far throughout training camp. He looks amazing, but at the same time Gresham is very athletic as well..
Rudolph
Rudolph
10-Team, PPR, All TDs 6pts, QB RB RB WR/RB WR WR TE/WR TE D/ST K
The Wes Coast is Wayne-N Crabs (4th Season)
QB - Brady EManning JFreeman
RB - MJD Sproles BWells RWilliams FJones JRodgers CGray JBell Woodhead
WR - White Welker Wayne Crabtree Ja.Jones CGivens JKerley Little DNelson
TE - Gronk Rudolf Myers
D - GB ATL
K - Bryant
2013 - #33, #48
2014 - 1, 3, 3, 4, 5
2015 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5[/color]
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10-Team, PPR, All TDs 6pts, QB RB RB RB/WR/TE WR WR TE/WR TE D/ST K
I've got a MOENer (1st Season)
QB - Ryan Cutler Locker
RB - Rice Sproles Beanie Tate JStew Quizz Turbin BPierce DRich Pead DHarris
WR - Calvin Julio Nicks Britt MWilliams DX DMoore Gordon Broyles VBrown
TE - Rudolph
D - GB ARI NE
K - Graham
2013 - #8, 13, 19, 23, 33, 48
2014 - 1,2,2,4,5
The Wes Coast is Wayne-N Crabs (4th Season)
QB - Brady EManning JFreeman
RB - MJD Sproles BWells RWilliams FJones JRodgers CGray JBell Woodhead
WR - White Welker Wayne Crabtree Ja.Jones CGivens JKerley Little DNelson
TE - Gronk Rudolf Myers
D - GB ATL
K - Bryant
2013 - #33, #48
2014 - 1, 3, 3, 4, 5
2015 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5[/color]
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10-Team, PPR, All TDs 6pts, QB RB RB RB/WR/TE WR WR TE/WR TE D/ST K
I've got a MOENer (1st Season)
QB - Ryan Cutler Locker
RB - Rice Sproles Beanie Tate JStew Quizz Turbin BPierce DRich Pead DHarris
WR - Calvin Julio Nicks Britt MWilliams DX DMoore Gordon Broyles VBrown
TE - Rudolph
D - GB ARI NE
K - Graham
2013 - #8, 13, 19, 23, 33, 48
2014 - 1,2,2,4,5
Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
Rudolph will have more opportunity to score and IMO has the batter QB throwing to him.
RG3's Company
8 team/31 roster league: 2PPR, 6pt.pass td/bonuses for ypcatch and ypcarry, comp%, Tackle-heavy IDP
QB(1)- RG3, Romo
RB(2-3)- J Charles, Ellington, R Mathews, Gerhart, R Jennings, C Michael, L Miller
WR(2-3)- Dez, Garcon, K Allen, SWatkins, VJax, Harvin, Patterson, Wallace, R Randle, J Hunter, C Latimer, Blackmon (I.R.)
TE(1-2)- Gronk, Ertz, Eifert, L Green
DL/DE (2)- R Quinn, Ansah
LB (3)- Wagner, M Kendricks, Worrilow S Lee (I.R.), D Washington (I.R.)
DB (2)- K Vaccaro, T Branch
K(1) - None rostered
Def(1)- None rostered
2015 picks - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
8 team/31 roster league: 2PPR, 6pt.pass td/bonuses for ypcatch and ypcarry, comp%, Tackle-heavy IDP
QB(1)- RG3, Romo
RB(2-3)- J Charles, Ellington, R Mathews, Gerhart, R Jennings, C Michael, L Miller
WR(2-3)- Dez, Garcon, K Allen, SWatkins, VJax, Harvin, Patterson, Wallace, R Randle, J Hunter, C Latimer, Blackmon (I.R.)
TE(1-2)- Gronk, Ertz, Eifert, L Green
DL/DE (2)- R Quinn, Ansah
LB (3)- Wagner, M Kendricks, Worrilow S Lee (I.R.), D Washington (I.R.)
DB (2)- K Vaccaro, T Branch
K(1) - None rostered
Def(1)- None rostered
2015 picks - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
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Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
You think Ponder is better than Dalton? I disagree. Give me Gresham. His rookie year was better than Rudolph and his 2nd year he went to pro bowl yaya I know cause Gronk & Hernandez declined ... what ever he still made it.therand50 wrote:Rudolph will have more opportunity to score and IMO has the batter QB throwing to him.
DONKEY PUNCHERS....12 teams start 1qb, 1rb, 2wr, 1flex rb/wr/te, te, k, d/sp, 0.5ppr, all tds 6pts, 0.1pt run/rec yd, .033pt pass yd, .04 return yd all return tds 6pts, 20 player roster, 1 IR Spot, 2pt bonus all tds over 50yds...
QBs Luck, Mayfield
RBs McCaffery, Kerryon, Drake, Breida, Gio
WRs C. Davis, T Boyd, D Hamilton, Kupp, Westbrook, MVS, Callaway
TEs Engram, Graham, Hurst
DEF/SP Bills
K Elliot
QBs Luck, Mayfield
RBs McCaffery, Kerryon, Drake, Breida, Gio
WRs C. Davis, T Boyd, D Hamilton, Kupp, Westbrook, MVS, Callaway
TEs Engram, Graham, Hurst
DEF/SP Bills
K Elliot
Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
I agree with therand50. More so on the side of the vikes having a better running game than the bengals than a better qb.( I consider Dalton and Ponder pretty closely ranked.) I also think Rudolph will produce more due to the vikes being behind alot in a Pass heavy division compared to the bengals in the afc northHawks Nest 12th Man wrote:You think Ponder is better than Dalton? I disagree. Give me Gresham. His rookie year was better than Rudolph and his 2nd year he went to pro bowl yaya I know cause Gronk & Hernandez declined ... what ever he still made it.therand50 wrote:Rudolph will have more opportunity to score and IMO has the batter QB throwing to him.
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-8 team League 2 ppr, 6pt.pass td/bonuses for ypcatch and carry, comp%/ 1pt.assist,2pt tackle, blk kick/punt,recovery,2.5pt t.f.l, 4pk sk, int, ff
QB(1)- PManning, Ryan, RWilson
RB(2-3)- Rice, Sproles, Martin , Wilson, BTate, Pierce
WR(2-3)- Julio, Demaryus, Nicks, GTate, T Austin, Mike Floyd, Randle, Royal, Hartline
TE(1-2)- Gonzo, Rudolph, Eifert, Reed
DL/DE(2)-J Allen, C Johnson
LB (3)- Kuechly, LDavid, Burfict
DB (2)- Barron,HSmith
Def(1)- Niners, Pats
-8 team League 2 ppr, 6pt.pass td/bonuses for ypcatch and carry, comp%/ 1pt.assist,2pt tackle, blk kick/punt,recovery,2.5pt t.f.l, 4pk sk, int, ff
QB(1)- PManning, Ryan, RWilson
RB(2-3)- Rice, Sproles, Martin , Wilson, BTate, Pierce
WR(2-3)- Julio, Demaryus, Nicks, GTate, T Austin, Mike Floyd, Randle, Royal, Hartline
TE(1-2)- Gonzo, Rudolph, Eifert, Reed
DL/DE(2)-J Allen, C Johnson
LB (3)- Kuechly, LDavid, Burfict
DB (2)- Barron,HSmith
Def(1)- Niners, Pats
Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
I do think Ponder is better than Dalton.Hawks Nest 12th Man wrote:You think Ponder is better than Dalton? I disagree. Give me Gresham. His rookie year was better than Rudolph and his 2nd year he went to pro bowl yaya I know cause Gronk & Hernandez declined ... what ever he still made it.therand50 wrote:Rudolph will have more opportunity to score and IMO has the batter QB throwing to him.
Ponder had an off year as a rookie, with no training camp; Dalton has same excuse, but I think what we saw in the latter half of the season and the playoffs is more indicative of what he will be, a game manager.
Regardless, this debate is about Rudolph and Gresham.
Rudolph will have more redzone targets and will more typically be targeted further down the field. Gresham will get more receptions, but his average points/game should be lower due to the Bengals running in the red zone.
RG3's Company
8 team/31 roster league: 2PPR, 6pt.pass td/bonuses for ypcatch and ypcarry, comp%, Tackle-heavy IDP
QB(1)- RG3, Romo
RB(2-3)- J Charles, Ellington, R Mathews, Gerhart, R Jennings, C Michael, L Miller
WR(2-3)- Dez, Garcon, K Allen, SWatkins, VJax, Harvin, Patterson, Wallace, R Randle, J Hunter, C Latimer, Blackmon (I.R.)
TE(1-2)- Gronk, Ertz, Eifert, L Green
DL/DE (2)- R Quinn, Ansah
LB (3)- Wagner, M Kendricks, Worrilow S Lee (I.R.), D Washington (I.R.)
DB (2)- K Vaccaro, T Branch
K(1) - None rostered
Def(1)- None rostered
2015 picks - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
8 team/31 roster league: 2PPR, 6pt.pass td/bonuses for ypcatch and ypcarry, comp%, Tackle-heavy IDP
QB(1)- RG3, Romo
RB(2-3)- J Charles, Ellington, R Mathews, Gerhart, R Jennings, C Michael, L Miller
WR(2-3)- Dez, Garcon, K Allen, SWatkins, VJax, Harvin, Patterson, Wallace, R Randle, J Hunter, C Latimer, Blackmon (I.R.)
TE(1-2)- Gronk, Ertz, Eifert, L Green
DL/DE (2)- R Quinn, Ansah
LB (3)- Wagner, M Kendricks, Worrilow S Lee (I.R.), D Washington (I.R.)
DB (2)- K Vaccaro, T Branch
K(1) - None rostered
Def(1)- None rostered
2015 picks - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
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Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
Just wanted to bump this thread- has anybody's opinions changd given how far into the season we are?
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Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
I think Gresham is probably the better option the rest of the way this year. Dalton is playing at a much higher level than Ponder while Gresham hasn't been as reliant on touchdowns.
I would be shocked if the Vikings don't come back down to earth coming out of their bye with four of their next five games being on the road. Of their six remaining games, two are against the Bears, two are against the Packers and one is in Houston. That will not be easy, though that could mean lots of pass attempts and a few extra targets/week for Rudolph.
Rudolph is still my guy long-term and I would take him about 1 round ahead of Gresham in a startup. Rudolph is my #4 dynasty TE while Gresham is at 6. Gresham has clearly passed a few guys like Davis, Pettigrew, Finley, Davis and Celek if we are looking at the DLF TE rankings, at least in my book.
I would be shocked if the Vikings don't come back down to earth coming out of their bye with four of their next five games being on the road. Of their six remaining games, two are against the Bears, two are against the Packers and one is in Houston. That will not be easy, though that could mean lots of pass attempts and a few extra targets/week for Rudolph.
Rudolph is still my guy long-term and I would take him about 1 round ahead of Gresham in a startup. Rudolph is my #4 dynasty TE while Gresham is at 6. Gresham has clearly passed a few guys like Davis, Pettigrew, Finley, Davis and Celek if we are looking at the DLF TE rankings, at least in my book.
10 Team/26-man dynasty/PPR/Year 10/4-6 pt TDs/2QB-2RB-2WR-2RB/WR-2TE
QB-Goff/Rosen/Lock/Grier/Luck
RB-Mack/Hunt/RoJones/Bernard/Snell/AP/Edwards/Ajayi
WR-ODB/Robinson/T.Williams/Davis/Anderson/Cobb/Renfrow
TE-Kelce/Goedert/Njoku/Rudolph/Oliver
2020 - Currently and likely 1.01, have all of my own picks
QB-Goff/Rosen/Lock/Grier/Luck
RB-Mack/Hunt/RoJones/Bernard/Snell/AP/Edwards/Ajayi
WR-ODB/Robinson/T.Williams/Davis/Anderson/Cobb/Renfrow
TE-Kelce/Goedert/Njoku/Rudolph/Oliver
2020 - Currently and likely 1.01, have all of my own picks
Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
Dumped Finley (gulp, gotta be careful with Chris R. lurking behind me) for Gresham and haven't been disappointed. With Hernandez folded up in a bed most of the season, I have been able to remain competitive while waiting for his return. I appreciate the volume of targets. I haven't watched enough tape on either guy to comment on ability and athleticism.
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Re: Rudolph vs. Gresham?
Gresham seems to be getting better each year...give me Gresham over Rudolph. Did you guys see that almost TD catch he had this past Sunday where the refs ruled him down on the 1 yard line? The guy is strong like bull.
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